The Beatles had recently finished recording Abbey Road in early September 1969, but they still had much business to deal with. On 9 September 1969, John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison met at the Apple Corps headquarters at 3 Savile Row, London, to discuss their future.
Lennon’s assistant Anthony Fawcett brought a portable tape recorder to document the meeting, which also allowed the absent Ringo Starr to hear the discussions. At the time Starr was in hospital, undergoing tests for an intestinal complaint.
Ringo – you can’t be here, but this is so you can hear what we’re discussing.
The Beatles began the meeting by discussing plans for a new album, and maybe release a Christmas single. Lennon suggested that they should each bring in compositions for consideration, and proposed a formula for the next Beatles album: four apiece by Lennon, McCartney and Harrison, and an optional two from Starr “if he wants them”.
We always carved the singles up between us. We have the singles market, [George and Ringo] don’t get anything! I mean, we’ve never offered George b-sides; we could have given him a lot of b-sides, but because we were two people you had the a-side and I had the b-side.
One Day At A Time, Anthony Fawcett
McCartney’s response to this was to say that he had thought Harrison’s pre-1969 songs had been substandard.
“Well the thing is,” Paul answered, without even looking at George who sat a few feet away, “I think that until now, until this year, our songs have been better than George’s. Now this year his songs are at least as good as ours.”George was quick to correct Paul: “Now that’s a myth, ’cause most of the songs this year I wrote about last year or the year before, anyway. Maybe now I just don’t care whether you are going to like them or not, I just do ‘em… If I didn’t get a break I wouldn’t push it. I’d just forget about it. Now for the last two years, at any rate, I’ve pushed it a bit more.”
“I know what he’s saying,” John said, “’cause people have said to me you’re coming through a lot stronger now than you had.”
“I don’t particularly seek acclaim,” George said. “That’s not the thing. It’s just to get out whatever is there to make way for whatever else is there. You know, ’cause it’s only to get ‘em out, and also I might as well make a bit of money, seeing as I’m spending as much as the rest of you, and I don’t earn as much as the rest of you!”
Like the others, George was now out on his own musically. “Most of my tunes,” he said, “I never had the Beatles backing me.”
“Oh! C’mon, George!” John shouted. “We put a lot of work in your songs, even down to ‘Don’t Bother Me’; we spent a lot of time doing all that and we grooved. I can remember the riff you were playing, and in the last two years there was a period where you went Indian and we weren’t needed!”
“That was only one tune,” George said. “On the last album [White Album] I don’t think you appeared on any of my songs–I don’t mind.”
“Well, you had Eric [Clapton], or somebody like that,” John replied, in a hurt tone of voice.
There was a long pause as each Beatle seemed lost in contemplation, wondering. Not wanting to admit that they were becoming individual musicians, Paul grasped at the remnants of truth and spoke slowly, almost whispering. “When we get in a studio, even on the worst day, I’m still playing bass, Ringo’s still drumming, and we’re still there, you know.”
Lennon also told McCartney that none of the other Beatles had “dug” ‘Maxwell’s Silver Hammer’, additionally indicating that not even McCartney had liked it.
It seemed mad for us to put a song on an album that nobody really dug, including the guy who wrote it, just because it was going to be popular, ’cause the LP doesn’t have to be that. Wouldn’t it be better, because we didn’t really dig them, yer know, for you to do the songs you dug, and ‘Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da’ and ‘Maxwell’ to be given to people who like music like that, yer know, like Mary or whoever it is needs a song. Why don’t you give them to them? The only time we need anything vaguely near that quality is for a single. For an album we could just do only stuff that we really dug.
One Day At A Time, Anthony Fawcett
Lennon also referred to the “Lennon and McCartney myth”, suggesting a belief that their future songs should be individually credited rather than the traditional Lennon-McCartney partnership of old.
This was, of course, largely moot, since The Beatles never came together to record another album – and, indeed, never again recorded as a quartet. On 29 September 1969, three weeks after this meeting, Lennon told the others that he was leaving the band.
The Beatles’ final session as a group was on 4 January 1970, to finish Let It Be songs, and the final session to feature a member of the band was on 1 April 1970, when Ringo Starr added more drums to ‘Across The Universe’, ‘The Long And Winding Road’, and ‘I Me Mine’.
Also on this day...
- 2022: Ringo Starr and his All-Starr Band live: State Theatre, Easton
- 2018: Ringo Starr and his All-Starr Band live: Century Center, South Bend
- 2016: Album release: Live At The Hollywood Bowl
- 2014: The Art Of Paul McCartney tribute album announced
- 2014: The Beatles’ remastered mono vinyl collection gets worldwide release
- 2009: The Beatles’ mono and stereo remasters are released
- 1993: Paul McCartney live: Olympiahalle, Munich
- 1975: Wings live: Gaumont Theatre, Southampton
- 1971: US album release: Imagine by John Lennon
- 1968: Recording: Helter Skelter
- 1962: The Beatles live: Cavern Club, Liverpool (evening)
- 1961: The Beatles live: Aintree Institute, Liverpool
- 1960: The Beatles live: Indra Club, Hamburg
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Mark Lewisohn belives this meeting happened on the 9th…
https://youtu.be/SEwT1RTPhDk?t=2396
Thanks – I’ve updated the date.
I’ve seen it mentioned that this tape supposedly “rewrites everything we know” about the Beatles. I don’t buy it. Personally, I think that John made his proposal knowing in advance that Paul would never go for it. Besides, since John quit the group 3 weeks later anyway, how serious could this proposal have been in the first place. I think that some people (including Lewisohn) are over-thinking this and reading too much into it.
Did any of them actually know this was the end or was this to try and prevent the end to happen?
So, if I’ve understood correctly, on 29.9.69 Lennon announced he was leaving, then on 4.1.70 The Beatles’ final session as a group took place to finish Let It Be songs.
The atmosphere at that January 1970 session must have been something to behold.
I’ve always thought (Lewisohn?) that the final session entered into the logbook was George finishing “I Me Mine” by himself.
It never occurred to me for years that John wanted to abolish the now misleading Lennon/McCartney credit for good in favour of individual writing credits on his and Paul’s songs.
I personally believe that this is what should’ve happened from the outset (John and Paul getting individual writing credits on their songs), but I’m not referring to songs that were genuine collaborations between the pair of them, e.g. “I Want to Hold Your Hand”, “From Me to You”, “Thank You Girl”, “She Loves You”, “I’ve Got a Feeling” (one of their last collaborations), “Baby You’re a Rich Man”, “Misery”, “I’ll Get You”, “I Wanna Be Your Man” and “There’s a Place”.
For the risk of repeating myself, I am talking specifically about the songs that were actually written solely by either John or Paul with little, if any, input from the other or vice versa deemed sufficient enough to merit the joint credit.
They could not keep up with Paul – plain and simple. Well, at least John couldn’t. He was too high and strung out so he devised this idea to spread it out as to not give Paul more power. Sad!
John was not high and strung at all. Listening to the excerpt of this Sep 9 1969 tape – he is very even tempered and fair. Just as even tempered as he was in the Get Back film. I think during SGT PEPPER, MMT, and the WHITE ALBUM, Paul was dominant and beat everyone into musical submission. They all got tired of it. John’s passive aggressive retaliation to this was forcing Yoko upon everyone.
Just curious, does anyone here know if a link to this,audio recording ?I have scoured the web only to find @ 3 minutes.
As a foot note I have been a long time “lurker” and have, learned so much. I’m 73 who as a kid tried to read between lyrics – your,who played,what I’ve devoured
Anyway thanks for being here
John and Paul using the Lennon/McCartney authorship credential ultimately proved to be (inadvertently?) a brilliant marketing brand. It firmly established their membership as the band’s principal songwriters . To the fans their names were part of the package, always there to remind the listener of a steady teamwork coming up with these musical ideas, as the Beatles.