The Beatles’ famous audition for Decca Records took place in London on New Year’s Day in 1962.
The session followed the label’s A&R representative Mike Smith’s attendance at a Cavern performance on 13 December 1961. The Beatles’ performance that night hadn’t been strong enough to secure them a record deal, but the label was willing to offer them a session in their studios at 165 Broadhurst Gardens, West Hampstead, London.
The group – John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Pete Best – travelled down from Liverpool with driver and roadie Neil Aspinall. Beset by snowstorms, the party eventually arrived just in time for the 11am audition. Brian Epstein had travelled separately on train.
The group was annoyed that Smith turned up late, having spent the night before seeing in the new year. Smith further unnerved them by insisting they use Decca’s amplifiers, having judged The Beatles’ own gear to be substandard.
The Beatles recorded 15 songs altogether. The likely order was:
- ‘Till There Was You’
- ‘To Know Her Is To Love Her’
- ‘Take Good Care Of My Baby’
- ‘Hello Little Girl’
- ‘Crying, Waiting, Hoping’
- ‘Love Of The Loved’
- ‘Besame Mucho’
- ‘Searchin”
- ‘Money (That’s What I Want)’
- ‘The Sheik Of Araby’
- ‘Memphis, Tennessee’
- ‘Three Cool Cats’
- ‘Sure To Fall (In Love With You)’
- ‘September In The Rain’
- ‘Like Dreamers Do’
Three of the songs – ‘Like Dreamers Do’, ‘Hello Little Girl’, and ‘Love Of The Loved’ – were Lennon-McCartney originals. The entire session took roughly an hour from 11am, and the majority of songs were likely to have been recorded in a single take without overdubs.
Of the Decca recordings, five songs – ‘Searchin”, ‘Three Cool Cats’, ‘The Sheik Of Araby’, ‘Like Dreamers Do’, and ‘Hello Little Girl’ – appeared on the Anthology 1 collection in 1995. The rest have been widely available on bootleg since 1977.
Although nerves meant The Beatles didn’t perform at their best, all four members and Brian Epstein were confident that the session would inevitably lead to a contract with Decca. The label, meanwhile, was erring towards Brian Poole and the Tremeloes, who had also auditioned that day. As head of A&R Dick Rowe later remembered:
I told Mike he’d have to decide between them. It was up to him – The Beatles or Brian Poole and the Tremeloes. He said, ‘They’re both good, but one’s a local group, the other comes from Liverpool.’ We decided it was better to take the local group. We could work with them more easily and stay closer in touch as they came from Dagenham.
The official reason given, meanwhile, was that “guitar groups are on the way out, Mr Epstein”. These words would become infamous, and Dick Rowe later became known as “the man who turned down The Beatles”. He did, however, sign The Rolling Stones on the recommendation of George Harrison.
Brian Epstein didn’t take rejection lying down. He travelled back to London for further meetings with Decca, even promising their sales team that he’d buy 3,000 copies of any Beatles single they released. Had Dick Rowe been informed of this, history could have been quite different.
I was never told about that at the time. The way economics were in the record business then, if we’d been sure of selling 3,000 copies, we’d have been forced to record them, whatever sort of group they were.
However, the Decca audition tapes did prove fortunate for The Beatles. Had they signed to Decca, their career may never have involved Ringo Starr, who joined the group only after George Martin expressed concerns about Pete Best’s drumming.
Furthermore, the audition gave Epstein some good-quality recordings of the group, on reel-to-reel, enabling him to take them around the remaining London labels. One of these tapes, labelled “2”, was auctioned at Sotheby’s in London in December 2019, and contained the songs from ‘Money (That’s What I Want)’ to ‘Like Dreamers Do’.
The manager of the HMV record store on London’s Oxford Street suggested that Epstein transfer the recordings from reel-to-reel to disc, to enable them to be more easily played. Epstein agreed, and immediately took the tapes to a studio and pressing plant situated above the store.
Engineer Jim Foy was impressed with the recordings. When Epstein told him three of the songs were original Lennon-McCartney compositions, Foy contacted Sid Coleman, of music publishers Ardmore & Beechwood (a subsidiary of EMI), who offered Epstein a publishing deal.
Epstein’s priority was to get the group signed, and so Coleman arranged a meeting between The Beatles’ manager and George Martin, the A&R head at Parlophone. Upon hearing the Decca recordings, Martin was sufficiently interested to offer The Beatles an audition at Abbey Road.
Also on this day...
- 1965: Live: Another Beatles Christmas Show
- 1964: Live: The Beatles’ Christmas Show
- 1963: Travel: Hamburg to London
- 1959: The Quarrymen live: Wilson Hall, Liverpool
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I have a three-record box set entitled The Beatles.
Two records are referred to as GEMA (HIS 10982) and are listed as Beatles Live (Hamburg) while the third record is entitled Silver Beatles and is referred to as STEMRA (HIS 11182) and contains 12 of the 15 Decca Audition songs.
Two of the three songs mentioned above (Take Good Care Of My Baby and September In The Rain) are contained on this third record of the set.
All three of the Lennon-McCartney Decca recorded originals are omitted from this collection.
All of the labels on the records contain commercial quality printing and facing with correct spelling and contain historical info as well.
The white box that contains the records is commercial quality as well.
If this is a bootleg, it’s a pretty damm good one.
It was purchased by me through Reader’s Digest many moons ago.
Joseph–I have the same box set. I don’t remember where I bought it. I don’t think it’s a legitimate release.
Pete Best was involved in the release of a Silver Beatles album (on Backstreet Records) which also contained the Decca recordings.
Paul and George tried very hard to keep the Star Club tape from getting out. They managed to limit its release pretty well, but of course once something’s out there, you can’t control the bootleggers.
There are 2 types of beatles album
The EMI/Apple albums and the non official (My Bonnie) albums
There are three types:
1. Official EMI/Apple/Capitol
2. Official (and likely otherwise) “My Bonnie”/Sheridan materials.
3. Bootlegs
this may sound crazy, but i have a reel to reel of” to know her” it is a one sided, studio quality version, once verified to be studio quality by the cbc in edmonton alta canada. my father was a recording artist in vancouver canada in the late sixties early seventies, he somehowe aquired this tape. my mother ended up with it in 1970 and still has it to this day. how can this be?
There’s something about the Decca sessions that always puzzled me until recently. I wondered for years (decades, actually) why the group would go and do a serious audition like this on a holiday? Well, I just recently found out that New Year’s was not a holiday back in the early ’60s in Great Britain, just another regular work day. Being from the US, I didn’t know that. Problem solved!
Another thing, does the Tremeloes’ audition tape from that day still exist, and if so, has anyone here heard it? I’d love to be able to compare the two groups’ talents, especially at this stage in their careers. I know that it’s always been said that Decca’s choice was based more on logistics & economics (due to the fact that The Tremeloes were local & The Beatles weren’t), but if I could hear both auditions, it would put the matter to rest once & for all.
Also, why hasn’t the complete Decca audition been legally released by now? I’m pretty sure that it was originally owned by the Epstein family (since Brian paid for the session himself), but obviously, the legal hurdles have been overcome since 1/3 of the audition has been released on “Anthology I”… C’mon, let’s get the show on the road!
I never before wondered about the Tremeloes audition! Very good point – it’d be interesting to hear.
Bill, the remaining 10 songs of the Decca Audition not included in Anthology 1 were issued in 2013 in a record named The Beatles I Saw Her Standing There (RMMCD101)… A very interesting double album, by the way…
A bootleg.
The question is why it hasn’t been officially released by The Beatles, as they doubtless own it.
I own a CD of the Official Decca Audition tapes.
Had it for over 20 years.
What strikes you immediately is the weak drumming.
Pete’s tempo was all over the place. In fact, the entire session was full of nervous vocals. Overall, you can hear the potential.
I have it also and love those sessions. I particularly like Like Dreamers Do and George’s great performances and singing. I also have the color singles issued by Joe Pope Beatles fan club from the seventies.
From a historical perspective, the Decca audition would be the equivalent of other artists’ pre-fame recordings, such as Elvis Presley’s Sun sessions, The Beach Boys’ pre-Capitol recordings for Candix, & Buddy Holly’s pre-Crickets recordings for US Decca.
No, they are not the equivalent, as Elvis “Sun” records, The Beach Boys’ pre-Capitol records, and Buddy Holly’s Decca recordings were all commercially released.
He DID say from a “historical” perspective, not a “what’s available on a major label” perspective.
I have just received a copy of Sure To Fall b/w Money on 7″ blue vinyl with a very new p/c on a label called Deccagone. It also says its a promo.Im sure this is a Pirate record. Im sickened that people are out there conning all us record lovers by passing this off as the genuine article.Got an AC/DC Pirate 7″ last year and im wondering if its been churned out by the same racketeers.I would mind having a record pressing machine of my own but I sure wouldn’t sell them fraudulently.
I don’t understand why all fifteen songs from the Decca audition aren’t included with the rest of the songs that the Beatles recorded?
Is there a reason that they’re in this separate category?
What do you mean? They’re all listed on the Songs page, as well as in this article.
Many Decca audition releases don’t include the three Lennon-McCartney songs — probably because of copyright issues.
How do I authenticate if I have a reel to reel unreleased Beatles demo?
I remember the flood of albums that were released in the early 80s featuring the Decca audition. They were usually budget albums, found in the bargain bins of K-Mart and Sears stores. In 1982, I picked up “The Complete Silver Beatles” (which was on the AudioFidelity label) at Filene’s Basement in Manhasset, New York. It featured all of the audition songs except for the three Lennon/ McCartney originals. The legitimacy of the LP did not phase me a bit.
In fact, I loved the record and played it constantly. The silver album cover was cool, and there were insightful liner notes on the back. My favorite tracks were “Three Cool Cats” “Searchin” “September In the Rain” and “Crying Waiting Hoping.”
A few things about the post-Decca audition/pre-EMI signing (Jan-Jun ’62) puzzle me. George Martin has stated that one of the songs that Brian Epstein played him was “Your Feet’s Too Big”, which is not on the Decca tape. The only known Beatles recording of that song is from the Dec ’62 Star-Club gigs, which is not the recording George is referring to. If George’s memory is correct, that means 1 of 2 things… Either there’s more to the Decca audition than the 15 songs we know of, or George heard an audition tape that we currently know nothing about.
That brings up another thing. Why do we automatically assume that the Decca audition is the only one that exists? John Lennon said, “We made tapes for Decca and Pye, but didn’t actually go to Pye”. Were the tapes submitted to Pye from the Decca session, or were they from something else?
Also, keep in mind that the boys were doing their earliest sessions for the BBC during this time. Some of those songs never made it to actual broadcast. Couldn’t they be used to submit to record companies as demos also? It’s a very good possibility that Brian Epstein had more recordings in his briefcase than just the Decca ones while he was making the rounds in London. Tantalizing thoughts…
I know they didn’t pass the audition, but I really like what they did.
I heard the DECCA tapes once. And I liked it very much, thought something was missing. Maybe Ringo.
While listening to the audition tape, I understand why Decca turned them down. Their first impression that day was not too good. A good first impression is very important on such occations, like a job interview.
Brian was given a copy of the audition on two reel-to-reel tapes, the first containing eight songs, the second seven.
The second tape, containing ‘Money’, ‘The Sheik of Araby’, ‘Memphis Tennessee’, Three Cool Cats’, ‘Sure to Fall (in Love with You)’, ‘September in the Rain’, and Like Dreamers Do’ and labelled “2” is to be auctioned online by Sotheby’s between 6-13 December.
The tape has been authenticated by Mark Lewisohn: “The ending of Three Cool Cats is a single bass note longer than any version we’ve had before. The song September in the Rain is four seconds longer than any of the circulated versions as it includes a vocal line which is always edited out. These tiny differences do mark out the tape as original to Brian Epstein, not something created from any other known-to-exist source” (private communication, 2018).
Fascinating that this tape has come to light, given that it’s a copy of the audition given to Brian at the end of the day, and that it’s marked “2”, it would seem to indicate the correct order of the last seven songs played at the audition. After all, it seems unlikely that the songs would have been copied for Brian in a different order to which they were recorded; a straight transfer onto the reel-to-reels from the studio tape seems much more likely.
I was wondering where they obtained this track listing from. It’s completely different than a listing Lewisohn has in one of his books.
So right no I’m trying to find out how a decca tape bootleg got to a museum I saw last summer. This hunt all started when I wanted to find out who took the photo of the cover and, found out it was albert marrison who took the photos of the decca auditions . And I’ve been going down this sorta beatles rabbit hole ever since. If anyone knows how a decca bootleg got to the augusta museum in georgia that would be cool. They also had some decca records there too and, now I’m kind of fascinated of the Beatle /Decca history.
Reed, as far as I know, there were no photos taken of the Decca audition. I’ve never seen any. Anyone else?
The Deccagone singles were made by Joe Pope, who ran Beatlefests in Boston. I believe there were 6, all nicely done with P/s on coloured vinyl, and were the first generally available copies of the Decca tape. I seem to remember it was the mid to late 70”s ?
Someone recently made a {{{{{{Stereo}}}}} copy of Decca, using a new software which can actually separate voices and instruments. The less complex a recording, the better it sounds.
Wikipedia has a different setlist order based on Mark Lewisohn’s book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles%27_Decca_audition#Setlist
Dana, I was wondering about that myself.
My guess is that the song order on this page is as per the reasoning in Ron Nasty’s comment; i.e. it’s Mark Lewisohn’s “likely” recording order as published in The Complete Beatles Chronicle, but modified in light of reel no. “2” of the two-reel tape set made for Brian Epstein by Decca. The “second reel” song titles are moved to the end and reordered, leaving the “first reel” songs as they were.
Lewisohn’s book dates back to 1992. The reel came up for auction in 2019. Do we know if Lewisohn has since revised his opinion as to the likely recording order? He did after all authenticate the tape. (Unfortunately, Lewisohn doesn’t give his reasoning in the book.)
A couple of things to bear in mind…
First, although the auction lot information does list the tracks on the reel-to-reel tape, it doesn’t actually make any claim as to their order on the tape.
https://web.archive.org/web/20221125131836/https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2019/the-beatles/the-beatles-decca-audition-tape-brian-epsteins
Second, the handwritten “2” on the reel’s label and box may not necessarily be clear evidence that the tape represents the second half of the audition: Decca may have presented Epstein with two unmarked reels, later to be distinguished with a “1” and “2” without reference to their contents.
On the suggestion that Sotheby’s do not state that the order of the tracks in their description is the same as the order of the tracks on the tape, a leading auction house such as Sotheby’s will always describe an item as accurately as possible. They do not need to say “as ordered on tape” as nobody would expect anything less. It would be quite a bizarre to list the contents of the tape if they were to present them in a random order that differed from the tape order.
On whether it might not be the first tape accidentally labelled “2”, the timings would indicate that to be unlikely. The seven songs on the tape marked “2” clock in at 15 minutes 20 seconds; the remaining eight, which make up the missing first tape, run to 19 minutes 40 seconds. Being transferred onto 20 minute reel-to-reel tapes, the first tape is full, while the one marked “2” would have still had 4 minutes 40 seconds of space available.
The missing first tape, with eight songs, fills a twenty minute reel, tape gets switched for the remaining seven songs, which don’t fill the reel. It would make no sense for the engineer who did the transfer to do anything but try to fit as much of the audition onto the first tape as possible.
It would be good if the entire Decca audition gets an official release, both on CD and 180g vinyl, with the full approval from Paul and John and George’s estates.
Some of the tracks were released on “Anthology 1” and listening to the recordings, Pete Best’s drumming is so repetitive, as he would almost play in one style, no matter the song, and he tended to add a drum roll, even when it wasn’t appropriate to do so.
I disagree with the passage about Pete vs. Ringo had The Beatles signed to Decca – John stated that Pete was going to be fired once they found a better drummer and his dismissal would’ve happened regardless of whether they did or didn’t get signed to Decca or EMI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBe-ZfrQ_RA
Tony Sheridan explains how he tried to warn Pete, about his distancing from the others. His bass drum was taken away during the Tony Sheridan sessions so Sheridan knows what he’s talking about. After that – then this audition – and then George Martin as well, his fate was sealed.
Hello,
I’ve just read your excellent feature on The Decca Audition.
I’m currently writing a book (the first!) on The Tremeloes, and I’ve interviewed surviving members extensively.
Three points:
(a) “The Tremilos”, as they were simply called prior to being signed, were already recording for Decca in 1961 – at least as a vocal trio consisting of Brian Poole, Alan Blakley and Dave Munden, who sung on many sessions for others.
(b) Brian Poole swears today that their audition was sometime in late 1961, and definitely NOT on New Year’s Day 1962. Here’s what he told me recently:
“This was sometime in 1961, not, as it says in lots of books, New Year’s Day, when The Beatles did their audition for Decca. I think we had been in Decca before, so this doesn’t stick in my memory much. We played all our Rock and Roll songs plus some vocal harmony songs, don’t know which ones, but mostly loud and fast. Lots of bands came to these auditions, and we and The Beatles were only two of them, but it essentially came down to us or them.”
(c) Another reason they were probably signed is because they were regularly appearing on the nationwide-broadcast BBC ‘Saturday Club’ throughout 1961, despite not being signed to a label yet. This was before The Beatles had even appeared on a local radio show of course.
So, in my opinion, Decca had already pretty much decided to sign “The Tremilos”, and The Beatles would have had to have been VERY special indeed to have been chosen instead.
Incidentally, they became big fans of The Beatles. Here’s what the late Dave Munden (who died in 2020) said a few years back:
“We played three times with them ‘live’. For me, they were the best group. There’ll never be anybody that comes up to them. They just had a certain magic. They weren’t maybe the best players in the world, individually, but they gelled fantastically. They were something really different then. I think they taught a lot of bands a lot about music. They were brilliant!”
Keep up the great work!
Peter Checksfield
Thanks very much for that info on the Tremeloes. What a turning point in music history! I can’t imagine the Beatles would have had as much success in the long run if they hadn’t connected with George Martin. And think of all the groups whose subsequent success followed in the Beatles’ wake …
I’ve got a cassette tape which was sent to me by Tony Barrow, the Beatles press agent in the early days. He wrote the sleeve notes to their first few albums. The tape includes all 15 songs referred to as ‘The Decca Tapes’. Tony sent me a covering letter which I still have confirming the authenticity of the recordings on the tape.
I knew Tony through my aunt Angela Williams, who married Paul’s father James in 1964.