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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn. Tune In - What do you think? (Spoilers alert!)
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SpecialCup said
I'm only on page 3.  

Good on ya, you should have the book finished just before the second volume comes out.

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AppleScruffJunior said

Good on ya, you should have the book finished just before the second volume comes out.  

You could read a word a day and finish it before vol 2 comes out. 

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It's getting really good.paul-mccartney-thumb_gif Today's word:  "On"

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sir walter raleigh said

You could read a word a day and finish it before vol 2 comes out.   

At the current rate we could teach Baldrick to read and he'd finish the book before we got volume 2 .

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sir walter raleigh said

You could read a word a day and finish it before vol 2 comes out.   

SpecialCup said
It's getting really good.paul-mccartney-thumb_gif Today's word:  "On"  

OMG that is funny! Can't wait to see what you read today.

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Zig said
Hi @Linde - nice to see you again. Glad you finished the book. What do you think of it?  

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Even though it took me a few years, I loved reading it. It's just that I couldn't often fiind the time to read a bulk. I think it was a great and very detailed book and am looking forward to the next two, although I've read that will take another couple of years?

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Yeah, that's the scuttlebutt. I can't wait. I've already read the first one twice and will probably give it a third go before the second one is published.

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Part of the fun of reading this book for me is taking time to listen to the songs Lewisohn mentions that the Beatles liked to listen to. I just listened to Hully Gully by the Olympics. Even grandma is doing it. LOL

I am also taking time to listen to songs GM produced before he met the Beatles.

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Part of the fun of reading this book for me is taking time to listen to the songs Lewisohn mentions that the Beatles liked to listen to. I just listened to Hully Gully by the Olympics. Even grandma is doing it. LOL

I am also taking time to listen to songs GM produced before he met the Beatles.  

My dad (2 years older than John & Ringo) grew up listening to the same artists - Holly, Presley, Vincent, Cochran, etc... So many hours on road trips listening to all of that fantastic music! I dig the fact that The Beatles loved the same stuff.

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There is an unofficial series, available to download on the net if you can find it, called 'The Songs We Were Singing' that collects so many songs that the Beatles listened to, not only those they are known to have performed/covered before they were successful. I think it's 8 CDs worth of material. Well worth hunting down.

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meanmistermustard said
There is an unofficial series, available to download on the net if you can find it, called 'The Songs We Were Singing' that collects so many songs that the Beatles listened to, not only those they are known to have performed/covered before they were successful. I think it's 8 CDs worth of material. Well worth hunting down.  

That is interesting and I will have to look into that.  I have all those songs highlighted in my book to go back and look them up.  It would be a lot less work if someone has done it for me. Thanks!

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Page 941 in the Extended edition.

"...: they stood up strong to all the promoters who gave them work, making it expressly clear that nobody was going to make monkeys out of the Beatles."

Interesting that they went from that to giving up control to Brian.

Any thoughts on that?

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Zig said

My dad (2 years older than John & Ringo) grew up listening to the same artists - Holly, Presley, Vincent, Cochran, etc... So many hours on road trips listening to all of that fantastic music! I dig the fact that The Beatles loved the same stuff.  

I so love it when I read the Beatles talking about their own influences. The sheer enthusiasm in their comments when they talk about Elvis, Carl Perkins or Jerry Lee Lewis and how those are the bands that spoke to them and that nothing that came after comes close to the way they felt hearing those songs early on.  For many of us who remember the Beatles as contemporaries or were born after, they represent that same kind of ne plus ultra.  

Following those lines, while I can appreciate some of the infectious music those pioneers had created, I simply have never been able to generate a lot of enthusiasm for 50s era rock as a whole. There are songs here and there that I love but overall I feel removed from it. Not so with the Beatles onward. Music from 1964-ish onwards sounds fresh and relevant to me.  Ironically, I love American standards music from the 1920s onward (think Sinatra) so it's for me that narrow slice of 1950s rock.  Maybe had my parents listened to that music around me, instead of American standard music, I'd feel differently as you did.

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Page 941 in the Extended edition.

"...: they stood up strong to all the promoters who gave them work, making it expressly clear that nobody was going to make monkeys out of the Beatles."

Interesting that they went from that to giving up control to Brian.

Any thoughts on that?  

My thoughts @Ahhh Girl are that there's a big difference between a promoter and a (good) manager. By that I mean that many promoters would not have the interests of a band at heart but would be more concerned with how much they would make off of a band whilst paying as little as possible (I've experienced this myself in my old band). Where as Brian really was (uncharacteristically for a band manager) very honest and genuinely put The Beatles interests first.

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I guess I am surprised they would give up that much control over their business dealings to someone else having been so vocal and involved once they became popular in Liverpool. I have to spend more time studying the Brian dynamic.

How cheesed off were they at Brian when they found out he didn't always get them the best deal (for example, with Beatles merchandise)?

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Ahhh Girl said 

I am also taking time to listen to songs GM produced before he met the Beatles.  

Although released after he met the Beatles, this Beatles' cover George produced with Peter Sellers is kinda what he was up to before his world changed:

Ahhh Girl said 

Interesting that they went from that to giving up control to Brian.

Any thoughts on that?  

I think that the timing of Brian arriving on the scene was what he had going for him...  The Beatles had been playing the same venues for years and were looking to break new ground...  The fact that he ran a record shoppe as well must've been pretty impressive to them at the time...

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How cheesed off were they at Brian when they found out he didn't always get them the best deal (for example, with Beatles merchandise)?  

I don't believe that The Beatles were aware of exactly how much money that Brian had signed away for nothing until after he'd passed...  There were rumblings that he'd lost them a lot of money with the Seltaeb fiasco but that was about it...:-)

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