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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn. Tune In - What do you think? (Spoilers alert!)
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^ Interesting. Thanks, @Richard.

Maybe Brian didn't have to wait as long for the Beatles to show up as I had feared.

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As John remembers the situation.

John: Right, mates, Brian Epstein brian-epstein is going to manage us.
Paul: Uh, hold on a minute there, John. I'm not sure about him. a-hard-days-night-paul-7
John: a-hard-days-night-john-7 Get over it, Paul. It's a thing now.

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Fast forward 8 years.

John: Right, mates, Allen Klein is going to our manager.
Paul: Uh, hold on a minute there, John. I'm not sure about him. a-hard-days-night-paul-7
John: a-hard-days-night-john-7 Get over it, Paul. It's a thing now.

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It took me over two years to read this book.  I'm not much of a reader, biographies and nonfiction really, very few books I've read have kept me captive.  Being a huge Beatles fan from all the way back has compelled me to read a few books about this amazing story.  Mark Lewisohn has written the Beatles biography to end all Beatles biographies (except volume 2 and 3) because the amount of detail and research shouldn't ever be exceeded.  I wish volume two was out, because I can't imagine going through volume one again.  

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I've still never been brave enough to purchase the extended version of this book, but one day I might find a spare £150 in my wallet.

 

Anyway, this isn't really why I'm here. Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere, but there are two questions relating to Mark Lewisohn I'm sure you could answer.

 

1. Can anyone confirm what time period Volume 2 of his biography will cover?

2. And this is something which occured to me today. Before Lewisohn released The Complete Beatles Record Sessions, what were his credentials as a writer? It seems strange to me that EMI allowed a relative unknown to listen to the most important music recorded in the latter half of the 20th century. 

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@Tony Japanese ML has long been regarded as one of the foremost experts on them. I first heard of him in '81/'82, when he was interviewed on (I think) Capitol Radio in London, and introduced as "The Beatle Brain of Britain". In 1986 he published The Beatles Live!, which was an astounding piece of research and became an essential reference book about their career as a live band from The Quarrymen on. It was that book which probably got him invited to do a similar job on their recording sessions, with both books (and more) later combined into his The Complete Beatles Chronicle in 1992.

The Extended is definitely worth getting.

As to Volume 2, 2020 is the expected date (last I heard), but dates do slip as he discovers another archive he needs to examine to check it doesn't contain anything he's missed or changes his understanding of certain events.

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@Tony Japanese ML has long been regarded as one of the foremost experts on them. I first heard of him in '81/'82, when he was interviewed on (I think) Capitol Radio in London, and introduced as "The Beatle Brain of Britain". In 1986 he published The Beatles Live!, which was an astounding piece of research and became an essential reference book about their career as a live band from The Quarrymen on. It was that book which probably got him invited to do a similar job on their recording sessions, with both books (and more) later combined into his The Complete Beatles Chronicle in 1992.

The Extended is definitely worth getting.

As to Volume 2, 2020 is the expected date (last I heard), but dates do slip as he discovers another archive he needs to examine to check it doesn't contain anything he's missed or changes his understanding of certain events.  

Thanks for the information about Lewisohn. I knew he'd had The Beatles Live! published beforehand, but I didn't realise he'd already begun doing the rounds in the early 80s as the go-to Beatles expert. I wonder why EMI didn't invite a writer with a (at the time) better CV though.

I'm not sure you've answered my question about volume 2 of the book though. I meant does anyone know what period of the Beatles history the book will cover? Obviously it will start with the beginnings of Beatlemania in the UK, but where will it end?

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Oops! Brain drifting off to publication date by mistake, @Tony Japanese.

ML hasn't been specific on where he will end the next book, though it covering 1963-1966 seems likely, maybe ending in a similar way to V1 in ending with Candlestick Park, as V1 ended with the Star Club. The other alternative I'd suggest would be Brian's death.

I had to check something on ML that I thought I was right on, and added to his credentials. Now checked.

When the '60s The Beatles Book monthly magazines were reprinted in the UK, beginning in 1976, with a wraparound section of new material (first 8 pages, later 16 pages), he was an early editor of the wraparound and did much that was groundbreaking in terms of Beatles research in those pages. For instance, in 1980, when he was 22, he was the first person to put together an index of their BBC recordings and appearances.

His time editing, and writing for, the wraparound more than proved he could write, and was a stickler for getting the details right.

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And later John did the Sugar Plum Fairy count-in for A Day In The Life

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I've still never been brave enough to purchase the extended version of this book, but one day I might find a spare £150 in my wallet. 

 

@Tony Japanese  The extended version is in two parts on Amazon as a Kindle version at £16.99 each part. I'm on part one now. I already read the standard version.

Pivotal Moments in Beatles History No.118:  Yoko helps herself to one of George's digestives. 

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I've been reading the Standard edition of this, but on my Kindle in recent weeks - it's fabulously detailed and really enjoying it. The boys are just about to move clubs in Hamburg so not sure how far I am through it. The Kindle says I am at x%, but there are a huge anmlount of footnotes and references I'm not sure how long I have left in the book pages wise!

 

I'm starting to regret not reading the extended edition when i read all the comments about it on here, I've gone too far into this one to start again now, but maybe int he lead up to part 2 coming out (any date on that yet??) I will read the full edition to warm me back up!

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HereThereAndEverywhere_1 said
I've been reading the Standard edition of this, but on my Kindle in recent weeks - it's fabulously detailed and really enjoying it. The boys are just about to move clubs in Hamburg so not sure how far I am through it. The Kindle says I am at x%, but there are a huge anmlount of footnotes and references I'm not sure how long I have left in the book pages wise!

 

I'm starting to regret not reading the extended edition when i read all the comments about it on here, I've gone too far into this one to start again now, but maybe int he lead up to part 2 coming out (any date on that yet??) I will read the full edition to warm me back up!

  

I completed part 1 of the extended version and it finished at 52% so 48% was notes, pics etc a total of 1728 pages but I'm really loving it and already into part 2. You probably have enough time to go back and read the extended version after you've finished the standard version @HereThereAndEverywhere_1 as I'm sure we still have a long wait for the next instalment. I'm just up to the second trip to Hamburg. One of my favourite lines ...about The Top 10 Club: "The Top 10 was a cut above what they'd had before. There were still fights, just not quite as many, though the waiters would start one when things got too calm". paul-mccartney

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HereThereAndEverywhere_1 said
I've been reading the Standard edition of this, but on my Kindle in recent weeks - it's fabulously detailed and really enjoying it. The boys are just about to move clubs in Hamburg so not sure how far I am through it. The Kindle says I am at x%, but there are a huge anmlount of footnotes and references I'm not sure how long I have left in the book pages wise!

 

I'm starting to regret not reading the extended edition when i read all the comments about it on here, I've gone too far into this one to start again now, but maybe int he lead up to part 2 coming out (any date on that yet??) I will read the full edition to warm me back up!

  

I wouldn't regret it. After you have finished this book, get the extended version and read the whole 'shebang' again, it will still surprise you and you will enjoy it a lot. Good books, with great stories and being well-written (language, grammar, words, story-line, creating tension, and triggering curiosity and empathy) are worth another read every couple of years... Mark Lewisohn achieved this. Even though some criticism is possible... The Beatles Review of History - At last a serious critique of Mark Lewisohn's 'Tune In'?  

Rob Geurtsen

 

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