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meanmistermustard said
I'm not a fan of Spector's WoS, but i do love 'Let It Be '. 
  

Same here, but who's know what would have happened if John didn't give him the (shittiest load of crap) music in the first place? It is a marvellous album. heart

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I don't get why they didn't let George Martin produce the album.

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Bongo said

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I'm not a fan of Spector's WoS, but i do love 'Let It Be '. 
  

Same here, but who's know what would have happened if John didn't give him the (shittiest load of crap) music in the first place? It is a marvellous album. heart  

I like the original raw album but i agree that it needed a lot of work to make it releasable at the time to Beatles standard; Spector and the album itself gets way too much crap thrown at it. How folk can berate 'Let It Be ' yet laud 'Let It Be Naked' is beyond my understanding. 

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@meanmistermustard said
I'm not a fan of Spector's WoS, but i do love 'Let It Be '. 

What is WoS?

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I'm not a fan of Spector's WoS, but i do love 'Let It Be '. 

What is WoS?  

Wall of sound, it's using lots of session musicians to create a fuller sound. It worked fine with The Beach Boys , but it sure pissed The Beatles off when they found out that Phil decided that a simple jazzy piano ballad (The Long And Winding Road , originally with just Paul on piano and vocals, George on Tele, John on 6 string bass, Ringo on drums, and Billy on Fender Rhodes), a simple acoustic guitar ballad (Across The Universe , originally with just John on acoustic guitar and vocals), and a rocker (I Me Mine , originally with George on lead and rhythm guitars, Paul on bass and organ, and Ringo on drums) needed an orchestra to back them up.

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@HMBeatlesfan said

Wall of sound, it's using lots of session musicians to create a fuller sound. It worked fine with The Beach Boys , but it sure pissed The Beatles off when they found out that Phil decided that a simple jazzy piano ballad (The Long And Winding Road , originally with just Paul on piano and vocals, George on Tele, John on 6 string bass, Ringo on drums, and Billy on Fender Rhodes), a simple acoustic guitar ballad (Across The Universe , originally with just John on acoustic guitar and vocals), and a rocker (I Me Mine , originally with George on lead and rhythm guitars, Paul on bass and organ, and Ringo on drums) needed an orchestra to back them up.  

That makes sense.  I thought it was the title of a song or something.

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Although I do like this album, I must say that Phil ruined it and that it is one of the few albums in the 87' canon that aren't better than the last with the others being Magical Mystery Tour , Yellow Submarine , and Past Masters .

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I actually enjoy Spector's orchestral accompaniments on The Long And Winding Road , Across The Universe , and I Me Mine . I think what makes Let It Be weak is the lack of really great Lennon songs (except for Across The Universe ). Dig A Pony and Dig It are my least favourite songs on the album, and the only two that i don't love. I think they should have included Don't Let Me Down .

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The reason they didn't include Don't Let Me Down on the album was because it was a B-side and the rule was that Singles were to have both sides compiled of non album tracks, except if there was an accompanying movie, in which case only the A-side could be an album track, although there were exceptions. As for the orchestration, I have mixed feelings about that. Although I think Phil should've gotten The Beatles consent before doing any orchestration and that none of the songs needed any orchestration, I do find it fitting for The Long And Winding Road and Across The Universe , as it reminds me of the string quartet in Yesterday . However, for I Me Mine , I think that adding the orchestra was rubbish because it's a classic bluesy-ish rock number, so adding an orchestra would be like adding an orchestra to Happiness Is A Warm Gun or Come Together , it just doesn't fit.

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Don't know if it's been mentioned, but when it came out Let it Be was another new Beatles album. There was no internet or iPhones or E!News. Then they "broke up", taking everyone by surprise, pretty much. No one knew of infighting, etc. All that came out AFTER the news. We were pretty much all left in the dark. For myself, I wish they had waited a year or two longer to release it, as a post-script, along with that sad, angry movie portrait of a band in break-up mode that Paulie insisted would just invigorate them. And Abbey Road would have been their beautiful swan song (as it was, but didn't look like it.)

In retrospect, Abbey Road was like a catered goodbye party with flowers, hugs and kisses. Let It Be looked like they all retired to a garage and got into a drunken after-party fist fight.

Personally, I thought the horns, strings and heavenly voices were tacky additions, beings that Let It Be was supposed to be just The Beatles "back to basics" and was initially advertised as such.

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Great description of those albums, SaxonMotherSon, although wasn't The Beatles (AKA The White Album ) also supposed to be a back to basics album and doesn't the Let It Be film show The Beatles breaking up and didn't people know of The Beatles breakup before Let It Be was released. For me, I was born in 1967 so although I was alive at the time, I don't remember any of this, whereas you were born in 1950, so you're a better source for this information than I could ever be.

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@HMBeatlesfan said
Great description of those albums, SaxonMotherSon, although wasn't The Beatles (AKA The White Album ) also supposed to be a back to basics album...

I thought that The Beatles was like the peak of all the LSD experimental stuff, then Get Back /Let It Be was back to the basics to contrast The Beatles.  The Beatles doesn't seem like a back to basics album.

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Great description of those albums, SaxonMotherSon, although wasn't The Beatles (AKA The White Album ) also supposed to be a back to basics album...

I thought that The Beatles was like the peak of all the LSD experimental stuff, then Get Back /Let It Be was back to the basics to contrast The Beatles.  The Beatles doesn't seem like a back to basics album.  

Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band was the peak of their LSD psychedelic childish experimental stuff, whereas The Beatles was more of a classic rock album more in vein to The Rolling Stones or The Doors than anything else.

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Sgt. Pepper 's Lonely Hearts Club Band was the peak of their LSD psychedelic childish experimental stuff, whereas The Beatles was more of a classic rock album more in vein to The Rolling Stones or The Doors than anything else.  

The Beatles is a little of everything.  It seems pretty experimental and random.  GB/Let It Be is more like(or was intended to be more like) the pre-Help Beatles or back to the basics.

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HMBeatlesfan said
Great description of those albums, SaxonMotherSon, although wasn't The Beatles (AKA The White Album ) also supposed to be a back to basics album and doesn't the Let It Be film show The Beatles breaking up and didn't people know of The Beatles breakup before Let It Be was released. For me, I was born in 1967 so although I was alive at the time, I don't remember any of this, whereas you were born in 1950, so you're a better source for this information than I could ever be.  

I believe the ad promo for Let It Be was, "The Beatles, as they were meant to be heard" or something like that. Tried to find that ad, maybe someone can search a little deeper.

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I believe the ad promo for Let It Be was, "The Beatles, as they were meant to be heard" or something like that. Tried to find that ad, maybe someone can search a little deeper.  

I thought it was 'The Beatles - as nature intended.' 

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Although I do like this album, I must say that Phil ruined it .  

Not sure why you think he ruined it?  If nobody had told me Spector produced it, I wouldn't have been the wiser.  It still sounded like the Beatles to me.

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Spector's version is actually better. Let It Be Naked sounds very boring without the strings and the jokes in between.

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sgtpepper63 said

Although I do like this album, I must say that Phil ruined it

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Not sure why you think he ruined it?  If nobody had told me Spector produced it, I wouldn't have been the wiser.  It still sounded like the Beatles to me.  

A lot of people feel Spector did a hack job on this album, but I grew up on his versions and still enjoy them. Before I even knew who Phil Spector was, I liked the songs on this album a lot (although it took me until just a few years ago to finally dig TLAWR). I'll admit that I've heard some alternative, stripped down versions of the songs that I prefer over the original. However, I still like the originals - the whole album for that matter- very much because they were the ones I grew up on.

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The only one of Spector's work I cannot stand is 'Across The Universe ', it is so slow, over-produced and boring.

'The Long And Winding Road ' is bearable but is far inferior to the 'Anthology 3 ' version, hate Preston's solo on 'Naked'.

However the OTT orchestra etc really suits the bitter angry nature of 'I, Me, Mine' and the George solo on 'Let It Be ' rocks. 

 

As i've said before switch 'TLAWR' with the 'A3' version and a basic mix of 'ATU' for the crap uberovermix and 'LIB ' would be one of my favourite albums.

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