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Let It Be
9 August 2018
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Very well said about Paul, @Saltie . He does express emotion in songs, but his own way. I was watching the "Tug Of War " video yesterday and thinking about how that's such a poignant song...in its author's fashion. It's not searing and direct the way, say, "Mother " is, but it's no less heartfelt or revealing, in my opinion. (The video has become retrospectively touching, ending as it does on Paul and George Martin laughing together in the studio, and then Linda fading away before Paul does.)  

I've never seen the film Let It Be . It's always been hard to find in the times I've cared the most. I hope one day to cross it off the bucket list. But one thing we may be more aware of today, after decades of reality shows about everything from twentysomethings living together to chefs competing, is that editing creates perceptions. "They use what you give 'em," but they don't use all of it, and it is sequenced and juxtaposed as some ordering intelligence desires it. I don't impugn Michael Lindsay-Hogg as a documentarian, but he went through a ton of footage and shaped to create/support a narrative. It may have been possible to make a completely different experience out of everything he shot. Maybe Let It Be the film has integrity as far as that goes. It's just that it exists as it exists, and even people who've never seen it, as I haven't, are aware of it, and so it's part of the story.  

I enjoy a lot of the songs on the album too, although it's middling for The Beatles. I had it just about exactly in the middle (seventh) in my entry in the ranking thread, and I'm happy with that placement. There's something to John's defense of Spector for making something listenable when handed "badly recorded shit."but I still don't like what he did with "Across The Universe " and "The Long And Winding Road "...or "I Me Mine ," but that one isn't a song I rate highly anyway. (To me, the best thing to be said for George's two contributions to this one -- the dreary one and the trifle -- is that it left him with far better stuff for Abbey Rod and All Things Must Pass .) 

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I got the movie right off Amazon last year. Found it more enjoyable than expected considering all the negativities associated with it - by others.

I don't see it as "break up" documentary except maybe through the eyes of the retrospectoscope. There are plenty of scenes where everyone's having a good time; and that FAMOUS scene with George telling Paul sarcastically that he'll do whatever Paul wants just doesn't seem to be that big a deal.

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
I got the movie right off Amazon last year. Found it more enjoyable than expected considering all the negativities associated with it - by others.

I don't see it as "break up" documentary except maybe through the eyes of the retrospectoscope. There are plenty of scenes where everyone's having a good time; and that FAMOUS scene with George telling Paul sarcastically that he'll do whatever Paul wants just doesn't seem to be that big a deal.  

Agreed. Some people have described that scene as being a "fight", but it's basically a reasonably amicable discussion between two long-term friends who inevitably will sometimes hold different opinions. In the context of the often heated world of pop/rock musicians' relationships, it's really quite a mild interchange.

I also agree with you that there are plenty of scenes where everyone's having a good time; and the rooftop performance is a very special part.  I would like to see LIB re-released plus a version of the rooftop performance focusing entirely on the Beatles without the extra comments from the people on the street; that's interesting too, so I would keep it in the film itself, but make a separate version available on the DVD.

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It's on Amazon? Ive been looking in all the wrong places! I was hoping it wasnt as breakup centered as everyones been saying, i really need some new material for my fanfics... Cough... Reasearch.

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You can find and download the film in very good quality online for free, anyone buying pirate copies is wasting their money as it won't be any different to downloading.

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meanmistermustard said
You can find and download the film in very good quality online for free, anyone buying pirate copies is wasting their money as it won't be any different to downloading.  

I spent years searching for a copy, and finally found it through my local record store owner dealing me a bootleg. The day after I saw it I talked to my friend about it, who told me he’d seen the move months ago online through whatever streaming service. I nearly turned green. 

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vonbontee said

meanmistermustard said

To me anyway there is a 'ter' sound.

Maybe its one of those where im sure its what Ben hears - "Alters pans", vonbontee hears "oats of pan", Manson hears "they must die" and the 'Paul is dead' folk hear "oh Danny boy, we buried Paullie".

Hahaha! And Paulsbass no doubt thinks it's actually Paul singing that line instead of John! (Just kidding.)

Actually, a little googling reveals several people who think it's "ODES of Pan", which certainly makes more sense than "oats".

I think John is singing "the Odes of Pan". Here are some references:
* Alan W. Pollack: https://www.recmusicbeatles.co.....oa909.html
* 'Life Of The Beatles' blog: https://lifeofthebeatles.blogs.....yrics.html
* "As the number ended, John sang a variation on a line from 'Danny Boy' that Beatles scholars still argue about: 'Oh Danny boy', followed by either 'the Odes of Pan are calling' or 'the Isles of Ken are calling' or something similar." - excerpt from 'The Beatles on the Roof', Tony Barrell, Apple Books

The original lyric is "the pipes, the pipes are calling" - so "the Odes of Pan are calling" is related (in a Lennonesque kind of way) in terms of panpipes.

Several other suggestions online - such as "the Isles of Ken", "the Ulster men", "the altarmen" - don't seem to me to reflect what John is singing.

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I thought it was “Old Savannah.”

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Expert Textpert said
I thought it was “Old Savannah.”

  

Nice to know I'm not the only one!

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