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kingjjj8
Strawberry Fields
Posts: 324
24 August 2010 - 9.11pm

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Dear Prudence said:

Uppercuts, pile drivers, choking, seperating his intestines from his body.a-hard-days-night-george-9


And when your done shoot him like he shot our Johnny. a-hard-days-night-john-5

Rap music is just computerized crap. - George Harrison

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mithveaen
Sitarday's room
Posts: 4621
24 August 2010 - 10.10pm
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Ok now this topic has turned into something..... a-hard-days-night-paul-2 a-hard-days-night-paul-4 a-hard-days-night-paul-7

Here comes the sun….. Scoobie-doobie……

Something in the way she moves…..attracts me like a cauliflower…

Bop. Bop, cat bop. Go, Johnny, Go.

Beware of Darkness… 

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Celebrated_Mr_K
Posts: 155
25 August 2010 - 1.28am

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Here's why I don't (and never will) support the death penalty:  I was once a jury foreman.

That experience taught me that most people, even the good ones, are quick to judge and in a hurry to move on.

Hasn't anyone been paying attention to what DNA evidence is demonstrating about our legal system?  An unacceptable number of people have been "proven guilty" and incarcerated (many on Death Row, awaiting execution) only to later be proven innocent by incontrovertible DNA evidence.  Why are they found guilty in the first place, when the instructions are clear that you convict only when proven beyond a reasonable doubt?  Lots of reasons...racial bigotry, classism, sexism, sexual orientation, you-don't-look-like-me-ism.

Okay, you say, but sometimes we KNOW who the guilty one is.  We know Mark David Chapman murdered John Lennon in cold blood.  No one disputes that.  So if we KNOW, then that perp should die, right?  Wrong.  Because then you make the intellectual step to saying, "well, this other case is cut and dried, too.  We got eyewitnesses and all that."  That's a mistake.  Stage a sudden event with a dozen eyewitnesses and then ask each of them separately what exactly happened and who they saw.  You'll be amazed at the results.  I made a hugely mistaken eyewitness identification myself once...that's scary.

So you can't put anyone to death for a crime, no matter the certainty, because once you do, you open the door to all the other cases that people CLAIM is a certainty and is anything but.

As Forrest Gump would say, "And that's all I have to say about that."

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Dear Prudence
Coming down fast but miles above you.
Posts: 1134
25 August 2010 - 9.31pm
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kingjjj8 said:

Dear Prudence said:

Uppercuts, pile drivers, choking, seperating his intestines from his body.a-hard-days-night-george-9


And when your done shoot him like he shot our Johnny. a-hard-days-night-john-5


I like the way you think!a-hard-days-night-george-9

Dear Prudence

Giving you quality -Facepalms- , since August 7, 2010.

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kingjjj8
Strawberry Fields
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25 August 2010 - 10.17pm

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Dear Prudence said:

kingjjj8 said:

Dear Prudence said:

Uppercuts, pile drivers, choking, seperating his intestines from his body.a-hard-days-night-george-9


And when your done shoot him like he shot our Johnny. a-hard-days-night-john-5


I like the way you think!a-hard-days-night-george-9


Likewise! a-hard-days-night-ringo-10

Rap music is just computerized crap. - George Harrison

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Dear Prudence
Coming down fast but miles above you.
Posts: 1134
26 August 2010 - 9.17pm
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kingjjj8 said:

Dear Prudence said:

kingjjj8 said:

Dear Prudence said:

Uppercuts, pile drivers, choking, seperating his intestines from his body.a-hard-days-night-george-9


And when your done shoot him like he shot our Johnny. a-hard-days-night-john-5


I like the way you think!a-hard-days-night-george-9


Likewise! a-hard-days-night-ringo-10


The feeling is mutual.a-hard-days-night-john-1

Dear Prudence

Giving you quality -Facepalms- , since August 7, 2010.

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Joe
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26 August 2010 - 9.36pm
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kingjjj8
Strawberry Fields
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26 August 2010 - 10.57pm

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Joe said:

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The dude still looks like a maniac. a-hard-days-night-paul-3

Rap music is just computerized crap. - George Harrison

alan
Boston MA USA
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27 August 2010 - 1.44pm
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Any discussion of Mark David Chapman's fate must take into account that he was a patsy set up for the hit by the CIA's MK-Ultra
program.  Why?  Because Lennon was due to win his U.S.
citizenship a few months later, and they needed to eliminate the chance that
Lennon would have joined the opposition to their murderous counterrevolutionary
wars in Central America (esp. Nicaragua and El Salvador), just getting underway
as Reagan's transition team was taking power in December 1980.   Think that's nuts?  Read _Who Killed John Lennon ?_ by Fenton
Bresler, and _The Search for the Manchurian Candidate: the CIA and Mind
Control_ by John Marks.  And visit
ciakilledlennon.blogspot.com

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Dear Prudence
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Posts: 1134
27 August 2010 - 3.53pm
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kingjjj8 said:

Joe said:

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The dude still looks like a maniac. a-hard-days-night-paul-3


His eyes are just plain scary! It's like he's trying to burn a hole in your retina! Or turn you to stone.a-hard-days-night-paul-4 

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Joe
Pepperland
Posts: 5091
27 August 2010 - 5.34pm
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I don't have time to explore those links right now, but I don't believe the conspiracy theory for a second. Ask yourself: was Lennon really a danger to anyone? He'd been living in the US for nine years (ooh, another number nine connection I'd not noticed before), had been mostly inactive for over four of those, and had stopped dabbling with revolutionary politics in 1972. He got his Green Card in 1976, so evidently he wasn't worth deporting then, and his recent songs were mostly about family life. Realistically, why on Earth would the CIA see him as enough of a threat to actually engineer his murder? a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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GniknuS
Rain? I don't mind
Posts: 1327
27 August 2010 - 6.05pm

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alan said:

Any discussion of Mark David Chapman's fate must take into account that he was a patsy set up for the hit by the CIA's MK-Ultra

program.  Why?  Because Lennon was due to win his U.S.

citizenship a few months later, and they needed to eliminate the chance that

Lennon would have joined the opposition to their murderous counterrevolutionary

wars in Central America (esp. Nicaragua and El Salvador), just getting underway

as Reagan's transition team was taking power in December 1980.   Think that's nuts?  Read _Who Killed John Lennon ?_ by Fenton

Bresler, and _The Search for the Manchurian Candidate: the CIA and Mind

Control_ by John Marks.  And visit

ciakilledlennon.blogspot.com


This is really weird, this guy has had three posts and they've all been the EXACT same. Big brother is watching…a-hard-days-night-john-7
 

Joe said:
 

I don't have time to explore those links right now, but I don't believe the conspiracy theory for a second. Ask yourself: was Lennon really a danger to anyone? He'd been living in the US for nine years (ooh, another number nine connection I'd not noticed before), had been mostly inactive for over four of those, and had stopped dabbling with revolutionary politics in 1972. He got his Green Card in 1976, so evidently he wasn't worth deporting then, and his recent songs were mostly about family life. Realistically, why on Earth would the CIA see him as enough of a threat to actually engineer his murder? a-hard-days-night-ringo-14


Joe, it's a difficult theory to believe, but the CIA is the most corrupt organization on the planet, so I wouldn't put it past them. The point is that John could have been seen as a threat, the week after he was murdered he was set to fly out to San Francisco to march, so he could have been seen as getting back into his old ways. John was one of the few musicians that actually succeeded in his political objectives, ie freeing John Sinclair, and the government maybe just wanted to get rid of him before he could have done anything. It's a pretty ridiculous theory, but then again so is suggesting that a book can drive a man to his temporary insanity and cause him to murder John Lennon .

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MeanMrsMustard
Nowhere Land
Posts: 2702
28 August 2010 - 6.04am
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Joe said:

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GniknuS said:


It's a pretty ridiculous theory, but then again so is suggesting that a book can drive a man to his temporary insanity and cause him to murder John Lennon .


a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 You call that temporary? Yeesh. It creeps me out just posting it.

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

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GniknuS
Rain? I don't mind
Posts: 1327
28 August 2010 - 11.34pm

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MeanMrs.Mustard said:

Joe said:

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GniknuS said:
 


It's a pretty ridiculous theory, but then again so is suggesting that a book can drive a man to his temporary insanity and cause him to murder John Lennon .


a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 You call that temporary? Yeesh. It creeps me out just posting it.
 


I didn't call it temporary, but the judge at his trial did.

I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine

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Nowhere Land
Posts: 6403
26 October 2010 - 3.38am

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Chapman Should stay in jail for his own safety
Every diehard Lennon/Beatle fan would kill him in 2 seconds flat
Screw You
P.S. Nice argument about why he should be released

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

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BeatleRechazado
Hiding in the dark side of the moon... Oh wait, wrong band.
Posts: 10
26 October 2010 - 3.57am

56

Can someone explain me that "George and Olivia incident"? Haven't heard of it a-hard-days-night-george-4

 

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sarah machinella
Posts: 876
26 October 2010 - 5.55am
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An intruder broke into George and Olivia's home, and stabbed George in the chest with a knife. I think Olivia bashed him over the head with a lamp, though, and then they called the police.

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vonbontee
Inside an Apple Orchard in a Letterbox
Posts: 4369
26 October 2010 - 5.48pm
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I didn't call it temporary, but the judge at his trial did.


The defense didn't really claim that the BOOK drove him insane, did they?

GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions, Marvin Gaye. PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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Johnandonandonandon
Australia
Posts: 28
27 October 2010 - 12.56am

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I don't know what to think of this guy.

 

I do hate him because he killed John, but then again the CIA conspiracy theory isn't that farfetched if you ask me.

 

They've been doing it for years.

 

Look at JFK. it's most likely his death was a plot by the CIA. Probably because they didn't like him taking their cookies or something.

 

I honestly don't know. He does look like a psycho and I'm not sure what he would do if he was released. I'd hate to think that he'd kill Paul aswell.

 

Anyways, time to stop being serious.

 

He's a dick.

Don't you dare steal my cookies.

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kingjjj8
Strawberry Fields
Posts: 324
27 October 2010 - 2.37am

60

I hear he was also going to kill Jacqueline Kennedy.a-hard-days-night-paul-3

Rap music is just computerized crap. - George Harrison

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