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I stumbled across this little film series someone made on YouTube. I’d recommend checking it out becuase I think it’s a good way of analysing the relationship they had with each other.

 

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I stumbled across this little film series someone made on YouTube. I’d recommend checking it out becuase I think it’s a good way of analysing the relationship they had with each other.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?…..mqFjw1HjRY

  

Also that series is really interesting. It’s about 10 hours, but it’s so thorough.

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Hi everyone about Paul McCartney and John Lennon honestly it doesn’t really matter if they were a “couple ” or not. For sure there are certain bonds that are not classified, you are not just friends or lovers or whatever… it happens to me and I think that’s the case here. Certain bonds are just too strong and deep to be defined and that doesn’t  mean necessarily been in love or not in a conventional way. Maybe because I can see a lot of what’s between me and my “bff” in them that I feel this way about them … you see my best mate and i are not meant to be together but definitely we have to distance from each other to be able to have normal relationships with our other half because there’s no space for anyone else when we are together… it’s difficult to explain if you never felt it. Anyway I think that’s the case in here a bond to deep to be categorized and they may have been physical or not at one point but that’s not what matters. I don’t know if it’s clear what I mean.

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Hi @Artemiasia ! I think I get what you mean, and I think Paul and John almost certainly shared a bond like that. As for John and Paul being a couple, I doubt it, but they were definitely very close friends with a truly special connection. 

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we have a thread on this cursed topic? hmmm. 

welcome @Artemiasia !! i totally get what you mean. 

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QuarryMan said
CURSED TOPIC?! paul-mccartneya-hard-days-night-john-6

  

well, maybe not the idea of the topic, bu i’ve seen some pretty cursed stuff on the topic, and people say some pretty cursed things. 

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I had no idea there was a thread for this, so I now have the chance to rant about something I’ve wanted to rant about for a while now. 

I am not a fan of “shipping” actual people at all. If they did have the kind of relationship that a lot of people seem to want to see, that’s their business, not yours, they don’t owe you anything just so you can be entertained. Entertainment is the issue for me. Being entertained/entertaining others seems to be a lot of people’s main goal in life, and some of them don’t care about doing it at the expense of others. For example, I have a not-super-close friend who recently started dating someone of the same gender. Everyone in their friend circle started squealing and freaking out and telling everyone who would listen because they were “so cute.” I happen to know that my friend doesn’t like attention very much (they’re kind of like me in that regard) and now practically everyone in the whole school is bugging them about it because they want to be entertained by something that doesn’t even matter to them. 

I don’t consider myself straight, and this is why I don’t go around telling people. I already get stared at enough (“Whoa! She doesn’t talk! Let’s put her in a cage so we can try to get her to!”) and the last thing I need is to solely exist for other people’s idea of entertainment. 

People naturally like thinking about other people’s lives and problems, in fact, that’s part of the reason I read so many books. But people get more of their precious entertainment out of using their own brains and playing off each other’s in order to imagine new scenarios the way they want them to be. I have no problem with people shipping fictional characters (other than the fact that it can be a little disturbing) but shipping real people with real emotions and real lives is just creepy. And then expecting them to go along with it and acting like it’s somehow their fault when they don’t either admit something they don’t want to admit or admit something that didn’t actually happen is even worse. 

Famous people are still people. And they don’t exist just for your twisted idea of entertainment. 

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Thank you @StrawberryFields91 apple01apple01apple01apple01 That’s exactly why I dislike ‘shipping’ non-fictional characters* — especially people whom I respect as much as I respect the Beatles.

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oooo i really wanna fully agree with that but i think a little non-harassing non-creepy shipping might be ok sometimes. especially if it might have a little truth in there. i think shipping without at least a tiny bit of proof is kinda weird. 

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I’ve always been the kind of person who ships in silence and doesn’t talk about it because I know people are uncomfortable with it for very fair reasons.  I have no clue why anyone would think it’s at all okay to send this kind of stuff to the people who are being shipped in real life.  Or even trying to force a fictional ship onto show runners (*cough* Voltron *cough*).  The entitlement mentality that a lot of the most vocal shippers have is definitely messed up.

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I’ve always been the kind of person who ships in silence and doesn’t talk about it because I know people are uncomfortable with it for very fair reasons.  I have no clue why anyone would think it’s at all okay to send this kind of stuff to the people who are being shipped in real life.  Or even trying to force a fictional ship onto show runners (*cough* Voltron *cough*).  The entitlement mentality that a lot of the most vocal shippers have is definitely messed up.

  

i would never send stuff or try to force it, that’s… gross. 

 

*cough* i’ve heard my friends talking about klance in voltron and they are very aggressive *cough*

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I’ve always been the kind of person who ships in silence and doesn’t talk about it because I know people are uncomfortable with it for very fair reasons.  I have no clue why anyone would think it’s at all okay to send this kind of stuff to the people who are being shipped in real life.  Or even trying to force a fictional ship onto show runners (*cough* Voltron *cough*).  The entitlement mentality that a lot of the most vocal shippers have is definitely messed up.

  

i would never send stuff or try to force it, that’s… gross. 

 

*cough* i’ve heard my friends talking about klance in voltron and they are very aggressive *cough*


  

I sometimes ship real people, but never, like, real people— just my own fictionalized ideas of those people. If that makes sense.

my friends also have some very, um, strong opinions about klance ahdn_paul_02 although they never call it that

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50yearslate said

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Kaniffee said

I’ve always been the kind of person who ships in silence and doesn’t talk about it because I know people are uncomfortable with it for very fair reasons.  I have no clue why anyone would think it’s at all okay to send this kind of stuff to the people who are being shipped in real life.  Or even trying to force a fictional ship onto show runners (*cough* Voltron *cough*).  The entitlement mentality that a lot of the most vocal shippers have is definitely messed up.

  

i would never send stuff or try to force it, that’s… gross. 

 

*cough* i’ve heard my friends talking about klance in voltron and they are very aggressive *cough*

  

I sometimes ship real people, but never, like, real people— just my own fictionalized ideas of those people. If that makes sense.

my friends also have some very, um, strong opinions about klance ahdn_paul_02 although they never call it that


  

Yeah that’s probably what I do.  I have no expectations that the real people will actually get together, I just enjoy the idea of it in my mind.

Yeah I shipped Klance, but never to that degree and before I stopped watching (after season 4) I found myself embarrassed by all the fans that just had no chill.  Caring about a ship becoming “canon” has always been so bizarre to me (fics exist for a reason)

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My friends are so intense about Klance that I actually thought it was canon for most of freshman year 

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Kaniffee said

50yearslate said

TheWalrusWasBrian said

Kaniffee said

I’ve always been the kind of person who ships in silence and doesn’t talk about it because I know people are uncomfortable with it for very fair reasons.  I have no clue why anyone would think it’s at all okay to send this kind of stuff to the people who are being shipped in real life.  Or even trying to force a fictional ship onto show runners (*cough* Voltron *cough*).  The entitlement mentality that a lot of the most vocal shippers have is definitely messed up.

  

i would never send stuff or try to force it, that’s… gross. 

 

*cough* i’ve heard my friends talking about klance in voltron and they are very aggressive *cough*


  

I sometimes ship real people, but never, like, real people— just my own fictionalized ideas of those people. If that makes sense.

my friends also have some very, um, strong opinions about klance ahdn_paul_02 although they never call it that

  

Yeah that’s probably what I do.  I have no expectations that the real people will actually get together, I just enjoy the idea of it in my mind.

yeh, that’s what i do. i never expect my ships to get together. just happily write fanfics. 

Yeah I shipped Klance, but never to that degree and before I stopped watching (after season 4) I found myself embarrassed by all the fans that just had no chill.  Caring about a ship becoming “canon” has always been so bizarre to me (fics exist for a reason)


  

if ships become canon they become less…. shippy. 

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I had no idea there was a thread for this, so I now have the chance to rant about something I’ve wanted to rant about for a while now. 

I am not a fan of “shipping” actual people at all. If they did have the kind of relationship that a lot of people seem to want to see, that’s their business, not yours, they don’t owe you anything just so you can be entertained. Entertainment is the issue for me. Being entertained/entertaining others seems to be a lot of people’s main goal in life, and some of them don’t care about doing it at the expense of others. For example, I have a not-super-close friend who recently started dating someone of the same gender. Everyone in their friend circle started squealing and freaking out and telling everyone who would listen because they were “so cute.” I happen to know that my friend doesn’t like attention very much (they’re kind of like me in that regard) and now practically everyone in the whole school is bugging them about it because they want to be entertained by something that doesn’t even matter to them. 

I don’t consider myself straight, and this is why I don’t go around telling people. I already get stared at enough (“Whoa! She doesn’t talk! Let’s put her in a cage so we can try to get her to!”) and the last thing I need is to solely exist for other people’s idea of entertainment. 

People naturally like thinking about other people’s lives and problems, in fact, that’s part of the reason I read so many books. But people get more of their precious entertainment out of using their own brains and playing off each other’s in order to imagine new scenarios the way they want them to be. I have no problem with people shipping fictional characters (other than the fact that it can be a little disturbing) but shipping real people with real emotions and real lives is just creepy. And then expecting them to go along with it and acting like it’s somehow their fault when they don’t either admit something they don’t want to admit or admit something that didn’t actually happen is even worse. 

Famous people are still people. And they don’t exist just for your twisted idea of entertainment. 

  

Thank you. There are quite a few people in my year level who are out about being in the LGBTQI+ community, but pretty much all of them are pestered about it on a pretty constant level. I, like you and your friend, do not like attention, so I don’t go around telling people many facts that would raise eyebrows. This is despite 99% of the people at my school being really decent and accepting – it’s because of this idea of ‘entertainment’ that you touched on. 

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I had no idea there was a thread for this, so I now have the chance to rant about something I’ve wanted to rant about for a while now. 

I am not a fan of “shipping” actual people at all. If they did have the kind of relationship that a lot of people seem to want to see, that’s their business, not yours, they don’t owe you anything just so you can be entertained. Entertainment is the issue for me. Being entertained/entertaining others seems to be a lot of people’s main goal in life, and some of them don’t care about doing it at the expense of others. For example, I have a not-super-close friend who recently started dating someone of the same gender. Everyone in their friend circle started squealing and freaking out and telling everyone who would listen because they were “so cute.” I happen to know that my friend doesn’t like attention very much (they’re kind of like me in that regard) and now practically everyone in the whole school is bugging them about it because they want to be entertained by something that doesn’t even matter to them. 

I don’t consider myself straight, and this is why I don’t go around telling people. I already get stared at enough (“Whoa! She doesn’t talk! Let’s put her in a cage so we can try to get her to!”) and the last thing I need is to solely exist for other people’s idea of entertainment. 

People naturally like thinking about other people’s lives and problems, in fact, that’s part of the reason I read so many books. But people get more of their precious entertainment out of using their own brains and playing off each other’s in order to imagine new scenarios the way they want them to be. I have no problem with people shipping fictional characters (other than the fact that it can be a little disturbing) but shipping real people with real emotions and real lives is just creepy. And then expecting them to go along with it and acting like it’s somehow their fault when they don’t either admit something they don’t want to admit or admit something that didn’t actually happen is even worse. 

Famous people are still people. And they don’t exist just for your twisted idea of entertainment. 

  

Ahah we should be friend!!! One of my friend “look I need to tell you something… but I don’t know how” me “just tell me if you want to or don’t you don’t feel like it” her:” ok….(long silence) I’m gay…” me ” it’s all that is?! I thought you had something terrible kind like cancer or something!” Her” so you don’t mind?! You don’t think any less of me?” Me:” I really don’t care for me it’s like you just told me I don’t like fish but I love meat… it’s a matter of taste and ok happy that you trust me but for me it’s not that big of a deal… sorry” she” meat or fish?!? Ahahah!!!!” And we ended up laughing loud for half an hour… 

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Ahah we should be friend!!! One of my friend “look I need to tell you something… but I don’t know how” me “just tell me if you want to or don’t you don’t feel like it” her:” ok….(long silence) I’m gay…” me ” it’s all that is?! I thought you had something terrible kind like cancer or something!” Her” so you don’t mind?! You don’t think any less of me?” Me:” I really don’t care for me it’s like you just told me I don’t like fish but I love meat… it’s a matter of taste and ok happy that you trust me but for me it’s not that big of a deal… sorry” she” meat or fish?!? Ahahah!!!!” And we ended up laughing loud for half an hour… 

  

This is exactly what coming out to a friend should be like. Well doneheartheart

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Anyway I don’t think that fanfiction couse any problem… I mean it’s just fantasy running wild. Of course there will always be creeps that take them to seriously or too far… but it’s like that with everything! I live in mylittleponyland (how I like to call it) I love to fantasie about EVERTHING and to play “what if?” With my mind but that doesn’t mean that I’m shipping something… I just got a huge imagination and I need to play with it that doesn’t mean bothering people in real life????

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