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Do you wish you were a 1st generation fan
19 August 2016
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This is something I wonder about 2nd generation fans, do you wish you were alive when The Beatles were big or do you prefer to be a 2nd gen fan. Personally, I was born in 1967, so although I am technically a 1st gen fan because I did like The Beatles when I was like 2, I still consider myself a 2nd gen fan because I was too young to really get into it at the time. Personally, I prefer the 70's over the 60's so I like my age as it is (as much as I love bands like The Beatles and The Beach Boys , I prefer and feel like I grew up with bands such as AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, and Queen), but some of you might have some differing opinions, especially if you were born after about 1990.

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No

Being a first gen fan would also mean growing up in the 50/60's.

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I have a keen interest in the times, and occasionally wish I were there for the concerts and things; but there are always threads like these for when I feel like that, and the rest of the time I'm quite happy to inhabit the 21st century. 

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Starr Shine? said
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Being a first gen fan would also mean growing up in the 50/60's.  

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You could've been one of those 1st gen fans born in 1962 who grew up in the 60's/70's like Axl Rose or Dave from beatlesebooks.com. Back then, there was great new music coming out by several bands (Pink Floyd, Queen, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Elton John, the list goes on) and everything was cheaper.

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Ya but music wasn't the only thing going on at the time.

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Starr Shine? said
Ya but music wasn't the only thing going on at the time.  

Trust me, if you were 5 in 1967, you weren't getting drafted into Vietnam.

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Draft ain't the problem though interesting that you think it would be.

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I the draft ain't your problem, what would be your problem with living in the 60's because the only other serious problem I can think of is the fact that people that were of different color, sexuality, and/or gender than the white straight male were treated inferiorly (in all honesty, the straight white non-disabled male who is 16-40 years old has, is, and most likely will always be treated the best (not trying to sound sexist, but an example would be that if a man and a woman of equal experience apply to the same job, the man is most likely getting it)), although I can understand if it's the lack of a certain thing you really like that wasn't available at the time (video games, Star Wars, heavy metal, the internet, etc.). It's not like the 30's where there was mass poverty or the 40's where everybody was being forced to ration for the US military.

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I read a book that says second gen starts with those born in 62, which makes sense because those people wouldn't even be in kindergarten by the time The Beatles stopped touring. 

I don't want to be a baby boomer.

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Being a first gen fan would also mean growing up in the 50/60's.  

I couldn't have been born at a better time, music wise. One of my 1st "45's" was Jailhouse Rock when I was 7. I experienced the rise of Rock N Roll, the Combination of Blues N Gospel (Soul Music), Motown, Surf Music, the resurgence of Folk Music (and all the artists that entailed), the Phillie Sound, Girl Groups, the British Invasion, Acoustic (folk) Rock, Poetic Rock, Jazz/Rock Fusion, World Music, Blues Rock, Prog Rock, & the Singer-Songwriter explosion. (All of this in a brief 20 yr period.) I watched each of these grow from one or two songs on the radio into a massive world-wide musical Revolution . Music for teens/youth really didn't exist before the '50's. All at once it was our music vs their music. I watched it coming from a distance and bathed in it when the wave broke.

So yeah, The Beatles hit when I hit puberty. They gave me all the sounds & words I needed exactly when I needed them. And their final opus came just as I was leaving my teens. I know it's cliche'd to say, but you had to be there to feel the visceral reaction to their being in the world and the anticipation felt when you heard the new album was coming out "next week" and you went to the record store every single day to ask if it was there yet. Whew, what were they going to sound like THIS time!? Where were they going to take my mind & spirit?

True, music wasn't the only "thing" going on at the time, but if you look at it in a parallel line, the music showed us what was going on at the time. What is today's music showing us? Las Vegas knock offs flouncing around to pre-packaged corporate pop and rap stars in Bentleys telling me it's rough in the 'hood. Don't think, just buy our "product".

Oh well...I've got no complaints. Music is eternal & internal. Play on.

Love & Peace, 

A 1st Genner

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Just a humble opinion based on my personality… Knowing myself, had I been let’s say fifteen in 1964, I wouldn’t have liked The Beatles. Their image was… too clean, and it was everywhere. But who knows, their music was so good. My guess is that I would have been into more radical images like The Stones or The Animals (although their music was inferior). In 1967 I would have been a fan of The Doors. The thing is that when I listened to The Beatles for the first time, in 1980, the Beatlemania was history, The Beatles themselves were history, and I fell for their music, not their image –that’s something I like.

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No, because then there's a chance that I would have missed out on/wouldn't be able to appreciate the great music made 1970-present. Plus, you know, as AD40 says, there was more going on in the 60's than music.

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Born in 1965. I feel like I was born at just the right time. Because I have all that music already there, already instilled in me from the beginning.  I don't think I missed a thing not "being there" as it were. Yes there was turbulence in the 60s. There's stuff in every decade though, it's just all different, yet all the same if you will.  I'm happy to be right where I am and having had the band with me my whole life. ahdn_ringo_09

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I was born in '65, so I have a very vague recollection hearing about the breakup as my first orientation to the group. That said, I didn't really appreciate their music until around 1978, listening to my pal's 18-year old brother playing his Beatles albums. Would I have wanted to  be discovering The Beatles at age 13 in 1964? Although that would have put me at 18 when Woodstock happened, other 'events' going on at the time for males of that age make me content to be born when I was. Also, I like the albums from "Help !" on much better, so I likely might not have been a fan in '64.

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Just a humble opinion based on my personality… Knowing myself, had I been let’s say fifteen in 1964, I wouldn’t have liked The Beatles. Their image was… too clean, and it was everywhere. But who knows, their music was so good. My guess is that I would have been into more radical images like The Stones or The Animals (although their music was inferior). In 1967 I would have been a fan of The Doors. The thing is that when I listened to The Beatles for the first time, in 1980, the Beatlemania was history, The Beatles themselves were history, and I fell for their music, not their image –that’s something I like.  

You may think that now, but at the time it was happening, you would have been a Beatles fan because of their music.  Yes, they were a little cleaner and a little more mainstream than some of the groups they inspired, but they still could be cutting edge, and they always had the charismatic universal appeal that won them millions of avid fans. The cooler choices of music became the ones you named, and the real cool choices included Hendrix and Led Zeppelin, but when the Beatles released anything new, it was always an event. You can always be a fan of more than one group, you know, and your enthusiasm could wax and wane, but you would have liked the Beatles. 

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No, because then there's a chance that I would have missed out on/wouldn't be able to appreciate the great music made 1970-present. Plus, you know, as AD40 says, there was more going on in the 60's than music.  

That's not entirely true. Sure, you may have missed out on stuff like Green Day and Nirvana but you still could've been into 70's/80's music. My friend/former boss was born in 1953, a perfect age to be a 1st gen fan, and he still likes stuff such as AC/DC, Queen, and Elton John almost as much as he likes stuff such as The Beach Boys and The Beatles. The only person I can think of who is a 1st gen fan but hates 99% of music released since 1970 is my father, and he was born in 1939, so he is one of the older 1st gen fans.

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I read a book that says second gen starts with those born in 62, which makes sense because those people wouldn't even be in kindergarten by the time The Beatles stopped touring. 

I don't want to be a baby boomer.  

What book is that because I wonder how accurate it is and why it starts 2nd gen at 1962 because that's an odd cutoff date. I understand why they would start 2nd gen at 1963, as The Beatles released their first canon single, Love Me Do , in 1962. I personally start 2nd gen at 1965 because I'm an American citizen and The Beatles hit it big here in 1964.

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Just a humble opinion based on my personality… Knowing myself, had I been let’s say fifteen in 1964, I wouldn’t have liked The Beatles. Their image was… too clean, and it was everywhere. But who knows, their music was so good. My guess is that I would have been into more radical images like The Stones or The Animals (although their music was inferior). In 1967 I would have been a fan of The Doors. The thing is that when I listened to The Beatles for the first time, in 1980, the Beatlemania was history, The Beatles themselves were history, and I fell for their music, not their image –that’s something I like.  

So I'm guessing you'd also have no interest in The Beach Boys and The Monkees if you were alive at the time. Also, it's interesting how John's death gave us so many 2nd gen fans.

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What book is that because I wonder how accurate it is and why it starts 2nd gen at 1962 because that's an odd cutoff date. I understand why they would start 2nd gen at 1963, as The Beatles released their first canon single, Love Me Do , in 1962. I personally start 2nd gen at 1965 because I'm an American citizen and The Beatles hit it big here in 1964.  

I guess 8 is a good age for music memory.

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I don't get it.

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