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Do you wish you were a 1st generation fan
20 August 2016
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Sure sometimes I feel like hopping in to a time machine and going back a few decades to see a concert or some other happening. But I don’t feel like being born then… I quite like living now! I’m sad that I wasn’t even alive when John was, and being born 2001 I wasn’t old enough to appreciate George when he lived. However I see the perks of living now… First off i’m a girl and I think that’s easier nowadays and I am quite fond of modern technology. Also I’m happy with having all the books to read, films, youtube stuff and forums like this that didn’t exist back then! 

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Yes, I wish I was a 1st generation fan. 

 I would love to live back then. Being able to experience the whole culture and–if I’m lucky– experience all the generations (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s,) would be heaven to me. 

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20 August 2016
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Evangeline said
experience all the generations (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s,)

So John, Paul, George and Ringo all started before the generations began. Negative 2nd generation peeps.

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Starr Shine? said

Evangeline said
experience all the generations (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s,)

So John, Paul, George and Ringo all started before the generations began. Negative 2nd generation peeps.  

You guys forgot the generations that The Beatles grew up in:

50’s: Elvis, Popularity of TV, Cinema “gimmicks” (color, stereo sound, 3D, widescreen, etc)

40’s: Jazz, World War II, Classic Animation (Looney Tunes, Tom And Jerry, etc)

Also:

30’s: Great Depression, Jazz, Classic Disney

And:

What’s the difference with the 00’s and 10’s, they all seem the same to me. It’d be like comparing the 1200’s to the 1210’s.

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I read a book that says second gen starts with those born in 62, which makes sense because those people wouldn’t even be in kindergarten by the time The Beatles stopped touring. 

I don’t want to be a baby boomer.  

I’d take that book with a grain of salt, as that book also claims that people born before 1945 or after 1961 are not 1st gen fans, which therefore means the book labels The Beatles themselves as not 1st gen fans. I respect your opinion and understand the statement I made last time sounded a little harsh, so I am trying to make this one as nice as possible while still conveying my opinion.

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I do consider myself a 1st gen fan. However, if someone were to ask me if I wished I was 10 or so years older, I would say no because, unlike you guys born in the 90’s and 00’s, I grew up in a great era called the 70’s, which in my opinion I better than the 60’s.

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sgtpepper63 said
You guys forgot the generations that The Beatles grew up in:

Baby Boomer and Silent Generations?

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sgtpepper63 said

Expert Textpert said
I read a book that says second gen starts with those born in 62, which makes sense because those people wouldn’t even be in kindergarten by the time The Beatles stopped touring. 

I don’t want to be a baby boomer.  

I’d take that book with a grain of salt, as that book also claims that people born before 1945 or after 1961 are not 1st gen fans, which therefore means the book labels The Beatles themselves as not 1st gen fans. I respect your opinion and understand the statement I made last time sounded a little harsh, so I am trying to make this one as nice as possible while still conveying my opinion.  

The Beatles are not fans of themselves.

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HMBeatlesfan said

That’s not entirely true. Sure, you may have missed out on stuff like Green Day and Nirvana but you still could’ve been into 70’s/80’s music. My friend/former boss was born in 1953, a perfect age to be a 1st gen fan, and he still likes stuff such as AC/DC, Queen, and Elton John almost as much as he likes stuff such as The Beach Boys and The Beatles. The only person I can think of who is a 1st gen fan but hates 99% of music released since 1970 is my father, and he was born in 1939, so he is one of the older 1st gen fans.  

What I’m also implying is that I might have died in 1971.

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Good thread, but I think there are 2 interwoven topics:

1) Is it better to have been born in ’43, ’53, ’63, ’73, etc…?

2) Is it better to be a 1st or 2nd (or 3rd) generation Beatle fan?

 

With respect to 1), it’s good to be happy with whatever year you were born in. I happen to be partial to the 60’s even though I was quite young (6-16).

A lot of awful stuff and a lot of great stuff. The awful stuff was really awful and the great stuff was so outstanding. It was over before I turned 17 and yet I remember that decade better than any of the subsequent ones (including The Ed Sullivan Show, the release of Hard Day’s Night, Help , and Yellow Submarine , the wild anticipation of Sgt Pepper with long lines at the record store, the space missions and moon landing…)

With respect to 2), is it better to receive a big box of chocolate that you can pick and choose from and pass judgment on in a short period of time OR receive one chocolate (or little boxes of chocolate) on a regular basis over a 6-7 year period?

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20 August 2016
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The Beatles are not fans of themselves.  

I hate to bump into other people’s conversations, but what source says The Beatles hate their own music. Almost every single song sounds like their either giving it their all and or are having fun. The vocals never seem weak or limp, such as in I’m A Believer by The Monkees. On the other hand, The Beatles make sure to sing their heart out, unless if there trying to bring a relaxed or depressed mood. Also, all 4 Beatles have played Beatles songs live during their solo career. Point is, I have never heard anyone say that The Beatles don’t like their own music and there’s nothing wrong with being a fan of the music you create.

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Necko said

HMBeatlesfan said
That’s not entirely true. Sure, you may have missed out on stuff like Green Day and Nirvana but you still could’ve been into 70’s/80’s music. My friend/former boss was born in 1953, a perfect age to be a 1st gen fan, and he still likes stuff such as AC/DC, Queen, and Elton John almost as much as he likes stuff such as The Beach Boys and The Beatles. The only person I can think of who is a 1st gen fan but hates 99% of music released since 1970 is my father, and he was born in 1939, so he is one of the older 1st gen fans.  

What I’m also implying is that I might have died in 1971.  

Why would you assume that.

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20 August 2016
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HMBeatlesfan said

Why would you assume that.  

Why not? Not everyone gets to live to eighty. 

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said
Good thread, but I think there are 2 interwoven topics:

1) Is it better to have been born in ’43, ’53, ’63, ’73, etc…?

2) Is it better to be a 1st or 2nd (or 3rd) generation Beatle fan?

 

With respect to 1), it’s good to be happy with whatever year you were born in. I happen to be partial to the 60’s even though I was quite young (6-16).

A lot of awful stuff and a lot of great stuff. The awful stuff was really awful and the great stuff was so outstanding. It was over before I turned 17 and yet I remember that decade better than any of the subsequent ones (including The Ed Sullivan Show, the release of Hard Day’s Night, Help , and Yellow Submarine , the wild anticipation of Sgt Pepper with long lines at the record store, the space missions and moon landing…)

With respect to 2), is it better to receive a big box of chocolate that you can pick and choose from and pass judgment on in a short period of time OR receive one chocolate (or little boxes of chocolate) on a regular basis over a 6-7 year period?  

1. I don’t believe in 3rd gen fans, whether you were born in 1972 and got interested when John died or 2012 and got interested when your grandma showed you Yellow Submarine , which she watched in the theatre back in 1968 when she was 4 years old, you’re a 2nd gen fan.

2. Of course you remember it better than all subsequent ones because you were born in 1953 you grew up in the 1960’s. I was born in 1967, so I grew up in the 1970’s and I have more memories of the 70’s than any other decade. It’s great to see someone who actually watched and remembers The Ed Sullivan Show performance on this post.

3. Is it better to find a box of 40 year old chocolates and be able to chose which ones you can eat or to get 3 or so fresh pieces a year over a 6 year period.

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Necko said

Why not? Not everyone gets to live to eighty.   

I don’t know, if I were on a post that said “Do you wish you were a 1st generation silent film fan” I wouldn’t say “I’m afraid that I’ll die in 1929”.

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sgtpepper63 said
You guys forgot the generations that The Beatles grew up in:

Baby Boomer and Silent Generations?  

Those are vague eras. Someone born in 1946 and 1962 didn’t grow up in the same era.

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^ What would divide someone from 1946 tfrom 1962?

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@Starr Shine? 

Baby boomers are people born after World War II but before Vietnam, so about 1945 to 1965.

Someone born in 1946 and 1962 would’ve grown in completely different eras and would most likely have different interests.

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HMBeatlesfan said

Expert Textpert said

The Beatles are not fans of themselves.  

I hate to bump into other people’s conversations, but what source says The Beatles hate their own music. Almost every single song sounds like their either giving it their all and or are having fun. The vocals never seem weak or limp, such as in I’m A Believer by The Monkees. On the other hand, The Beatles make sure to sing their heart out, unless if there trying to bring a relaxed or depressed mood. Also, all 4 Beatles have played Beatles songs live during their solo career. Point is, I have never heard anyone say that The Beatles don’t like their own music and there’s nothing wrong with being a fan of the music you create.  

HMBeatlesfan said

Expert Textpert said

The Beatles are not fans of themselves.  

I hate to bump into other people’s conversations, but what source says The Beatles hate their own music. Almost every single song sounds like their either giving it their all and or are having fun. The vocals never seem weak or limp, such as in I’m A Believer by The Monkees. On the other hand, The Beatles make sure to sing their heart out, unless if there trying to bring a relaxed or depressed mood. Also, all 4 Beatles have played Beatles songs live during their solo career. Point is, I have never heard anyone say that The Beatles don’t like their own music and there’s nothing wrong with being a fan of the music you create.  

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I wish I was alive when the Beatles were together, but I don’t wish that I lived in the 60’s.  Even though I love the Beatles I don’t think I was born in the wrong generation.

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