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What if Pete Best and Stu Sutcliffe stayed in the Beatles?
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12 June 2014
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Anybody even consider how 60s music may have evolved differently without

Paul setting the standard for creativity in bass playing?  He almost single-handedly

turned the bass into another voice in the mix.    Would John Entwistle or Jack Bruce

have pushed themselves as hard to expand their own talents?

12 June 2014
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thisbirdhasflown said

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I don't think Mr. Moonlight even voiced an opionion on this thread! He just invited speculation. What's he right about?

(lol I'm the mood for an argument here, is it obvious? A friendly argument. :) )

[EDIT: OK, now I see - it was Necko quoting Zig answering Mr. Moonlight who you were agreeing with there. Misattribution!]

Hey. I've got plenty of time for a debate so go ahead!

I think I made my point pretty clear on my posts above, or thought I did...and couldn't get anyone to agree with me! LOL. So I don't know where I can go from there...I just couldn't figure out what you were agreeing with.

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

12 June 2014
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vonbontee said

thisbirdhasflown said

vonbontee said
I don't think Mr. Moonlight even voiced an opionion on this thread! He just invited speculation. What's he right about?

(lol I'm the mood for an argument here, is it obvious? A friendly argument. :) )

[EDIT: OK, now I see - it was Necko quoting Zig answering Mr. Moonlight who you were agreeing with there. Misattribution!]

Hey. I've got plenty of time for a debate so go ahead!

I think I made my point pretty clear on my posts above, or thought I did...and couldn't get anyone to agree with me! LOL. So I don't know where I can go from there...I just couldn't figure out what you were agreeing with.

You could go revive the day in the life Ahhh thread

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

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12 June 2014
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Not what I appear to be said

Anybody even consider how 60s music may have evolved differently without Paul setting the standard for creativity in bass playing?  He almost single-handedly turned the bass into another voice in the mix.    Would John Entwistle or Jack Bruce have pushed themselves as hard to expand their own talents?

Welcome to the forum, NWIATB! :) We invite you to introduce yourself on the "Introduce yourself!" thread on the main page.

I don't know about Entwistle, but I doubt that Paul McCartney (or his bass playing) was really on Jack Bruce's radar. He started out as a standup bass player and jazz purist, so his playing abilities would've been much more advanced than Paul's before the Beatles even recorded, undoubtedly. And I don't think Paul is really his equal, as far as technique goes. (Let me add here that I've never much liked Bruce's playing. John Entwistle I like a lot more.)

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

12 June 2014
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Annadog40 said

vonbontee said

thisbirdhasflown said

vonbontee said
I don't think Mr. Moonlight even voiced an opionion on this thread! He just invited speculation. What's he right about?

(lol I'm the mood for an argument here, is it obvious? A friendly argument. :) )

[EDIT: OK, now I see - it was Necko quoting Zig answering Mr. Moonlight who you were agreeing with there. Misattribution!]

Hey. I've got plenty of time for a debate so go ahead!

I think I made my point pretty clear on my posts above, or thought I did...and couldn't get anyone to agree with me! LOL. So I don't know where I can go from there...I just couldn't figure out what you were agreeing with.

You could go revive the day in the life Ahhh thread

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12 June 2014
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thisbirdhasflown cried

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vonbontee hissed

thisbirdhasflown yelled passively

vonbontee argued
I don't think Mr. Moonlight even voiced an opionion on this thread! He just invited speculation. What's he right about?

(lol I'm the mood for an argument here, is it obvious? A friendly argument. :) )

[EDIT: OK, now I see - it was Necko quoting Zig answering Mr. Moonlight who you were agreeing with there. Misattribution!]

Hey. I've got plenty of time for a debate so go ahead!

I think I made my point pretty clear on my posts above, or thought I did...and couldn't get anyone to agree with me! LOL. So I don't know where I can go from there...I just couldn't figure out what you were agreeing with.

You could go revive the day in the life Ahhh thread

Where do I find it?

Here

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

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12 June 2014
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NOOOO! that's just a joke by Annadog40! If that thread is revived again, meanmistermustard will kill himself (I believe he's threatened to do so)

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

12 June 2014
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vonbontee said
NOOOO! that's just a joke by Annadog40! If that thread is revived again, meanmistermustard will kill himself (I believe he's threatened to do so)

Well in that case, no, for @meanmistermustard his sake. Aaugh!!!

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12 June 2014
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One heck of a miserable place to go.

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris) 

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13 June 2014
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meanmistermustard said
One heck of a miserable place to go.

Yeah. We still like to have your Rubber Soul around.

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I reckon they might have eventually got signed to a record label (Polydor?) and would have had a few minor hits in Britain (and possibly Germany) for a year or two, but would not reach the point where they were wanted in America and/or worldwide. They probably would have split a lot earlier, and would be leading fairly normal lives right now, although there could be the possibility that Stu went on to be a famous artist after the split.

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It's fine to entertain these ideas for a moment but I don't want to give it too much thought as I can't stand to think of a world where The Beatles wasn't John, Paul, George and Ringo.

However I don't think they would have progressed much further then Hamburg if Peter and Stu remained in the band. They may have released an album or two and maybe a couple of singles but I don't think they would have gone much further than that but you never know, maybe the five piece Beatles might have gone on to be a big band in their own write (See what I did there?)

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