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Ringo... a horrible drummer?
3 August 2015
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I think Ringo felt his playing was shit was because of the vibe in the studio and the strain in the relationships between the four. If you feel like shit then whatever you're doing feels shit.

As for Paul playing on more, why would the documentation be incorrect, no one has anything to gain from dressing any of Paul's tracks as Ringo's? I'd have to go back and check but i dont recall reading that any of the drum tracks Ringo laid down being re-recorded after he returned or Paul replacing them.

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I wouldn't say he was a bad drummer, I think he just didn't try to do anything too fancy.  He just kinda kept the flow of everything, and stayed low key, which is obviously what he wanted to do. But look at a track like "The End ", when given the opportunity he showcased his talent and did it very well. 

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It's a fair cop, horrible drumming, that's why he got the sack the minute they needed someone better to go along with their new-found fame and increasingly complex music. And he hasn't been able to find a gig since.

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Ringo was the best drummer FOR THE BEATLES.  That's the best answer I can give.  He fit the band perfectly and that's all that matters. 

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A horrible drummer couldn't even keep the beat... and probably would throw the sticks in almost every fill, or cymbal hit and stuff...

A good drummer could keep up the beat, and be versatile... and do things like "All I've Got To Do ", or " i feel fine", or "i want you..."

Doing a thousand fills in one second is not being the best, at least not for me...

He is not horrible and maybe not the best... but he's among the  "very very good"  ones.

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Here's an idea of how good R was........He played the song.

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That was really fun to watch. I wish he could have done more with Rain (just to see someone do it), but I didn't expect You Know My Name (Look Up The Number). Man, he can hit those skins.

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That was cool. He really nailed Yesterday a-hard-days-night-george-10

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3 November 2015
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I've seen some comments saying that he wasn't able to really replicate Ringo's drumming that well but I personally feel it's impressive that he was able to replicate some many different Beatles drum parts and put it all in a 5-minute song. Even if not all of the parts are as good as Ringo's.Ringo Starr

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RubberRevolver49 said

I've seen some comments saying that he wasn't able to really replicate Ringo's drumming that well but I personally feel it's impressive that he was able to replicate some many different Beatles drum parts and put it all in a 5-minute song. Even if not all of the parts are as good as Ringo's.Ringo Starr

He's clearly skilled, but remember that he specifically chose those parts to make a medley. I liked what he did with the "1st phase" songs more than the others because he later began to pick parts that weren't always representative of the songs, and also because those earlier parts are less often demonstrated and he really gives a sense of how driving those rhythms are.

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Through this site........I've come to appreciate Ringo and George much much more. Paul more too and John actually a little less........Though he's still my number 1.

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I found this guy doing ringo covers. Definitely a horrible drummer couldn't do all that stuff.

I also think the "strawberry fields..." drumming is much more creative and complex than the "rain" one, which ringo himself says was his most "busy" work.

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I remember reading on Wikipedia that Paul (towards the later years) would go back in the studio and fill in Ringo's parts because they weren't up to par. Is this information even correct? Also, why would he feel the need to do that? I don't recall drums being on the myriad list of Paul's skillfully learned instruments.

The question, "Is Ringo a horrible drummer?" isn't appropriate. We all must know that he does a fine job keeping rhythm in the Beatles's songs. He even goes beyond that by managing to incorporate such a specific instrument into melodies that are symphonic or have loops. The question seems to be if having a revered drummer in a band is relevant because drums don't seem to be as important as guitar, piano, and especially lead vocals. The same question appears to George and why he is perceived to be pushed back by Paul and John. Ringo was as well--but Ringo is such a chill guy that he would never stir any trouble.

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15 November 2015
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Don't remember reading Paul adding to Ringo's parts anywhere reliable, occassionally such claims are posted as true but nothing to back them up. You got a link @KaleidoscopeMusic?

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@KaleidoscopeMusic said
I remember reading on Wikipedia that Paul (towards the later years) would go back in the studio and fill in Ringo's parts because they weren't up to par. Is this information even correct? Also, why would he feel the need to do that? I don't recall drums being on the myriad list of Paul's skillfully learned instruments.
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While drums were on the myriad list of Paul's learned instruments, I amn't sure if his drumming skills would be considered 'skillful' or not. a-hard-days-night-john-6 He did much of the drumming in Back In The USSR , after all (with a little help from his bandmates). 

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@meanmistermustard Here's the link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....._McCartney

There's a section down under the caption "Ringo Starr " that says this:

As Apple's Peter Brown recalled, "it was a poorly kept secret among Beatle intimates that after Ringo left the studio Paul would often dub in the drum tracks himself ... [Starr] would pretend not to notice".[384]In August 1968, the two got into an argument over McCartney's critique of Starr's drum part for "Back in the U.S.S.R.", which contributed to Starr temporarily leaving the band.

There are a few footnotes at the bottom, but I haven't checked the sources (and people always argue that Wikipedia isn't reliable), so I'm unsure of its accuracy.

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@Beatlebug See, he plays so many instruments that I forgot! Why did Paul drum on those songs when Ringo is the--I don't know--drummer? If there was a fight or absence, surely they could've waited to record it another time. (Right?)

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I think Ringo's pretty good!a-hard-days-night-ringo-12 He's not a technically great drummer, but I just like the way he sounds.  I'm a big fan of how he uses a right-handed set up, even when he's a lefty.  Gives his drumming a unique sort of sound.ahdn_ringo_09

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limitlessundyinglove said
I think Ringo's pretty good!a-hard-days-night-ringo-12 He's not a technically great drummer, but I just like the way he sounds.  I'm a big fan of how he uses a right-handed set up, even when he's a lefty.  Gives his drumming a unique sort of sound.ahdn_ringo_09

Well, I was going to say something like that, but LUL said it for me... ahdn_paul_01

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I can't find it now in this thread, but somebody posted an article from Salon magazine that marked the definitive last word on this subject. The opening line of the article stuck with me: "Somewhere in the world right now, there’s a drummer in a recording studio or rehearsal room being instructed to 'play it like Ringo.'"  Ringo has such a distinctive style and method, that every serious musician (or at least drummer) knows it and can try to emulate it. How about that for a legacy? ahdn_ringo_09

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