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Cynthia Lennon passed away
2 April 2015
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I don’t want to read her books because I don’t want to come away from them unable to think about anything but John being an asshole who beats women. Or will I not think that?

Also, I read an interview with John’s Aunt Mimi where she said that Cynthia was aggressive and always pushing herself on John, and that at first he would hide whenever she came around.

"This Beatles talk bores me to death.” —John Lennon 

2 April 2015
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I don’t want to read her books because I don’t want to come away from them unable to think about anything but John being an asshole who beats women. Or will I not think that?

That’s a good question. I haven’t read Twist of Lennon yet, but I did read John, which I understand was a fair bit harsher (or “more true to life” if you will) than Twist was. I only recall one incident in that book where John actually hit Cynthia, very early in their relationship, before they were married. She says she broke up with him after that, and I think they stayed apart for a few weeks before getting back together.

John doesn’t come across in this book as a nice guy, but he also doesn’t come across as a total monster either. He was, as I’m sure you know, a very troubled soul with a tendency to ping-pong between emotional extremes — happy, wonderful, romantic, and tender one day, sullen, angry, and dark the next day — and that is accurately reflected in Cynthia’s book. I guess what I’m trying to say is that there’s a pretty holistic picture of John in this book, so there’s some really good stuff, and there’s some not so good stuff.

I think she also accurately captures some of what made John tick on the inside, so I, as the reader, felt like I had a better understanding of why he could be so polarizing and volatile. If anything, I came away feeling more sorry and sad for John as a person with tortured emotions than I did feeling angry at him.

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Not a bit like Cagney.

3 April 2015
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Back from the memorial at John’s star. It was a small but respectful and devoted gathering.

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3 April 2015
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But then we all die of something, and increasing life-spans increase the chances of illnesses like cancer and dementia.

Frankly, I think science has sufficiently prolonged the human lifespan for the time being.  I think it should focus more now on possibly slowing down the aging process.  There’s no point in living into your 90’s or 100’s if you’re possibly going to become a mental and/or physical invalid in the process. 

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LA NPR station KPCC ran a very lovely interview Terry Gross did with Cynthia in 1985 you can hear here (it’s the last segment around 33 minutes).

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Posted at Reddit –  a letter John sent to Cynthia in 1974:

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3 April 2015
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Hey Jules,

Don’t Make It Bad,

Take A Sad Song and Make It Better…

 

Cyn was One Class Act, thanks for sticking with John during his ‘Angry Young Man’ years, he wouldn’t have made it without your undying love & support…:-)

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Such sad news. I may be inviting controversy here but I always wish he’d stayed with her. 

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Is it appropriate to discuss in this thread the letter @parlance posted? Or should we discuss it somewhere else?

3 April 2015
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I’ll x-post it at the Beatles wives thread to be safe.

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3 April 2015
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Another tribute to Cynthia from Yoko:

“She embodied love and peace” and “I wonder how much her presence encouraged [The Beatles] to go all the way to the top.” Also, “my pain of Cynthia’s sudden departure is very deep.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/yoko-ono-remembers-cynthia-lennon-she-embodied-love-and-peace-20150403

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"This Beatles talk bores me to death.” —John Lennon 

4 April 2015
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^

That last Yoko statement is less awkward than the first one. This is more thought through.

 

Anyway, I haven’t been online the past few days and found out about this via Twitter. It’s such sad news. I had no idea she was battling cancer. Such a horrible disease. I am incredibly sorry for Julian.

Cynthia always appeared to be a very strong woman who never had a bad word to say about anyone. She handled the whole John situation well and she deserved much better. 

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I don’t want to read her books because I don’t want to come away from them unable to think about anything but John being an asshole who beats women. Or will I not think that?

I know someone already answered you, but I just want to reiterate that Cynthia said on many different occasions that he hit her only once… which is asshole behavior, but doesn’t classify someone as an “asshole who beats women.” Cyn also said about John: “He was constantly changing and looking for new quests. But whatever he did, it was totally honest and wholehearted.”

heartRIP, Cyn. Much love to Julian.

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Examiner report on the tribute in Hollywood to Cynthia.

Also, a summary of tributes.

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The Irish Mirror posted a link to Cynthia’s final interview.

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I forgot to post yesterday that it was Cyn’s one year anniversary.

 

I always liked Cynthia, she seemed like a real, genuine person.

 

I can’t believe it’s been a year already!

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I almost feel bad for Cynthia because she always seems overlooked or criticized. Yoko may be “infamous” but at least she’s mentioned.

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By overlooking Cyn, people are overlooking an important aspect of John. I really do like Cyn, and there’s no doubt that something kept John with Cyn for as long as it did. I also don’t think John leaving Cyn and Julian behind was an immediate thing, I’m sure John thought it through.

Life is unfair, but I’m glad that Cyn chose to highlight some of the much nicer things about her and John in her book rather than just slag him off which she could’ve. She isn’t even bitter towards Yoko in her book.

She was a sweet lady who loved John unconditionally without any hidden agendas, too bad that John never realized it.

Much respect for Cyn x)

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What a life she had.

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I’m glad that Cyn chose to highlight some of the much nicer things about her and John in her book rather than just slag him off which she could’ve. She isn’t even bitter towards Yoko in her book.

She was a sweet lady who loved John unconditionally without any hidden agendas, too bad that John never realized it.

Much respect for Cyn x)

Could not have said it better.

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