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15 May 2014
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vonbontee said
I've been feeling this weird kind of...not "guilt", but this occasional kind of embarrassment (or at least self-consciousness) since I started investigating classical music back in February...like I'm afraid people are going to think I'm trying to be pretentious or snobbish, or that I'm trying to rise above all the rock 'n rollin kid stuff I've spent 40+ years listening to (and have appeared to finally become largely bored with - or at least bored with 95% of any new performers I've never heard before.) It's like I can't decide whether such a listening choice is totally uncool or totally cutting-edge. And I have to wonder why I should care about the coolness of whatever I'm listening to, especially when it's frequently giving me a lot of enjoyment. (Primarily when it's Beethoven)
Welcome to a whole new world @vonbontee. Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner… You won’t regret exploring them. And I dare say you’ll appreciate The Beatles even more after listening to classical music.
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Offline meanmistermustard said
Folk generally buy what they hear (and like); a large part of what they hear is played on mainstream radio; a large part of whats played on mainstream radio is the guff thats shoved at them by the record industry which is generally quickly recorded music with bland lyrics and autotuned vocals. And because it sells the record industry pumps more out. Its all one big circle.
Yeah but why does this sell? Why is it that people are into autotuned computerized crappy pop and hiphop? Why isn't rock music mainstream for instance?
I'm sure there must be a whole psychological theory behind this. I'M GOING ON AN INVESTIGATION!
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Oudis said
vonbontee said
I've been feeling this weird kind of...not "guilt", but this occasional kind of embarrassment (or at least self-consciousness) since I started investigating classical music back in February...like I'm afraid people are going to think I'm trying to be pretentious or snobbish, or that I'm trying to rise above all the rock 'n rollin kid stuff I've spent 40+ years listening to (and have appeared to finally become largely bored with - or at least bored with 95% of any new performers I've never heard before.) It's like I can't decide whether such a listening choice is totally uncool or totally cutting-edge. And I have to wonder why I should care about the coolness of whatever I'm listening to, especially when it's frequently giving me a lot of enjoyment. (Primarily when it's Beethoven)Welcome to a whole new world @vonbontee. Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Wagner… You won’t regret exploring them. And I dare say you’ll appreciate The Beatles even more after listening to classical music.
Appreciate the encouragement! Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart and Chopin (and Stravinsky and Dvorak and Rimsky-Korsakov) have all provided me with (at least) an album's worth of joy so far. Wagner I don't think I'm gonna bother with, cause I still have no use for opera (yet), plus he was such a nasty piece of work, of course.
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9.42pm
15 May 2014
Offline Von Bontee said
Appreciate the encouragement! Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart and Chopin (and Stravinsky and Dvorak and Rimsky-Korsakov) have all provided me with (at least) an album's worth of joy so far. Wagner I don't think I'm gonna bother with, cause I still have no use for opera (yet), plus he was such a nasty piece of work, of course.
@Von Bontee:
I’m not a connoisseur but I dare say that the overture of Tannhäuser is a great place to start with Wagner –put your prejudices aside and enjoy. You can easily find it on YouTube.
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Guilty pleasures? Umm... this forum... 
It verges from the sublime to the ridiculote
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10.25am
1 November 2013
Offline Silly Girl said
Guilty pleasures? Umm... this forum...
The Beatles are your guilty pleasure? (I think this be for music)
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Offline Annadog40 said
Silly Girl said
Guilty pleasures? Umm... this forum...The Beatles are your guilty pleasure? (I think this be for music)
Nope--Oh, is it?...
Forget I said anything, then
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1 December 2009
Offline Still blows my mind that the Beach Boys /Motown artists are "guilty pleasures" 
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15 February 2015
Offline U2, Grace VanderWaal, and Billie Eilish are guilty pleasures for me.
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7.46pm
1 January 2017
Offline vonbontee said
Still blows my mind that the Beach Boys /Motown artists are "guilty pleasures"
NOT ON MY WATCH! 
Also, before we got sent home, one of my college teachers a few weeks back played us a couple of Marvin Gaye songs as part of a lesson and I'm fine to say I absolutely dig them! 
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10.26pm
1 December 2009
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U2, Grace VanderWaal, and Billie Eilish are guilty pleasures for me.
Never heard of GraceVW, but I'm curious about why you'd feel guilt about enjoying someone as cool and hip and acclaimed as Billie Eilish...is there a backlash? or do you disapprove of her worldview or whatever....curious!
'Guilty pleasures' is a concept that I only half-believe in, anyways...
GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty.
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15 February 2015
Offline ^Only half guilty pleasures, I'm not super guilty about any of my pleasures really, but it's just that I'm moving between the third and fourth stages on this most excellent chart:
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26 January 2017
Offline Welcome to the poptimist fold, @Beatlebug ! We'll have you addicted within days 
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5 December 2019
Offline I would have to say that my only "guilty" pleasure is Jack Stauber:
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25 December 2017
Offline My choice of Guilty Pleasure happens to be one of my favorite bands right now. Prepare to be dissapointed. . . Blink-182!!
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5 December 2019
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My choice of Guilty Pleasure happens to be one of my favorite bands right now. Prepare to be dissapointed. . . Blink-182!!
I don't mind Blink that much. My brother was extremely into them when he was my age and I've liked some of their songs. However, my friend despises their music and likes to make fun of them constantly (though we do have a good laugh together belting out "I Miss You" with terrible but not that far off Mark Hoppus impressions)
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"....This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around...."
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8.52am
26 January 2017
Offline lovelyritametermaid said
PurplishRain said
My choice of Guilty Pleasure happens to be one of my favorite bands right now. Prepare to be dissapointed. . . Blink-182!!
I don't mind Blink that much. My brother was extremely into them when he was my age and I've liked some of their songs. However, my friend despises their music and likes to make fun of them constantly (though we do have a good laugh together belting out "I Miss You" with terrible but not that far off Mark Hoppus impressions)
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ON ME YOU'RE ALREADY THE VOICE INSIDE MY YED
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13 December 2019
Offline I don't fully believe in the concept of guilty pleasures, but some of the music that I like could be considered guilty pleasures. I love a good 70s roadtrip song like Hooked on a Feeling or Brandy and I do enjoy a lot of songs by ABBA. I also like some standards from the Rat Pack, they can be really comforting. I don't listen to most mainstream pop music because I don't enjoy most of it, but I have to admit that I like a few songs by Billie Eilish, Bruno Mars and a few other artists. Not most of their work, but some of it managed to surprise me. I haven't listened to any full albums from these artists, I just like a few of their songs so far.
Have a great day everyone! 
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Offline I have songs by Britney, Barry Manilow (take 1 of 'Mandy' is far better than the commercial version), Christina Aguilera, Right Said Fred, Celine Dion, Shania Twain and god knows what else. I don't care what others think about that, they're not listening and I like the songs.
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