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What was their first "psychedelic" song?
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RunForYourLife
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27 November 2012 - 8.18am

I think it's arguably "The Word", with its strange harmonies, "whimsical" sounding piano and droning harmonium. The effect is even better with the "full ending" on the Rockband version, with the little guitar flourish.

 

Furthermore, it's supposedly one of the few numbers J&P actually wrote under the influence.

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27 November 2012 - 12.20pm

Probably Rain.

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27 November 2012 - 12.29pm

Nowhere Man. For sure. It's not overtly psychedelic, and it hardly takes the atmosphere to the degree of any of the songs on Revolver; but from a musical feel you've got the lilting melody, the shimmering harmonies and John's sluggishly laconic vocal delivery contributing to a "trippy" feel. Even more so, the lyrics suggest a kind of drifting, ego-less state; the very enlightened, guru-like "please listen, you don't know what you're missing... the world is at your command." In sound and execution it's only a few steps away from Rain for me, and it's certainly the most traditionally psychedelic song on RS.

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27 November 2012 - 6.14pm

The Word, Nowhere Man, Rain - psychedelic? 

I think they're first were the ones on Revolver, such as: Love You To, She Said She Said, Tomorrow Never Knows...

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27 November 2012 - 7.50pm

 I can understand some songs from Rubber Soul having some psychedelic influence, but when I saw this question, the first song that came to my mind was "Tomorrow Never Knows." 

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27 November 2012 - 8.06pm

tkj said
The Word, Nowhere Man, Rain - psychedelic? 

If not Nowhere Man, then Rain surely? The Eastern sound, the reverse vocals, the distorted feel to the guitars and vocals, the hypnotic drumming- how is it not psychedelic?

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27 November 2012 - 8.15pm

The first psychedelic song has to be "The Word." The lyrics say it all. I also think that the guitars on "Paperback Writer" have a psychedelic sound to them. heartTHE WORD IS LOVE!

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28 November 2012 - 11.08pm

tkj said
Rain - psychedelic? 

Um... yes? Psychedelic guitar riff, first song with backwards playing, Lennons voice etc..

thewordislove94 said
The first psychedelic song has to be "The Word." The lyrics say it all. I also think that the guitars on "Paperback Writer" have a psychedelic sound to them. heartTHE WORD IS LOVE!

Paperback writer is definitely not psychedelic song...

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29 November 2012 - 6.36am

I would say the first psychedelic song would be from Revolver. They really started pushing the envelope on this album. I would say 'Love You To' or 'Tomorrow Never Knows' would be the first song and all this happened a full year before the Flower Power year of 1967.

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29 November 2012 - 3.20pm

I would say Tomorrow Never Knows with its backwards loops, hypnotic drums et al, one of the reasons being the first recorded for Revolver.

The Word has very profound lyrics but, to me, its not psychedelic and wouldnt go as far as to say Nowhere Man with its chiming guitars and 3 part vocals is either. 

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1 February 2013 - 7.13pm

"Psychedelic" is subjective, so if you're saying the FIRST technically speaking, it is with no doubt Tomorrow Never Knows. Lyrics in The Word or Norwegian Wood don't really constitute a song, their songs, as psychedelic. Paperback Writer was deemed it because of the echo break at the chorus but that was just a mix US vs Britain issue of LP. We all have both versions, I wouldn't consider that song officially Psychedelic. They can be interpreted that way sure but Tomorrow Never Knows was the first deliberate attempt and who better to illustrate that direction in their music or anyone else's at that time than John.

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1 February 2013 - 7.35pm

I'm actually tempted to change my original nomination of Nowhere Man and move even earlier, to Ticket To Ride. Again it's not overtly psychedelic in any way, but listen to that woozy, staggering rhythm, droning guitars, the somewhat exotic percussion, and tell me that it isn't a massive precursor for the sort of stuff they'd be doing on Revolver.

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1 February 2013 - 8.13pm

It's gotta be Rain, in the truest sense of the word psychedelic, and it came out before Revovler.

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1 February 2013 - 9.01pm

True, "Rain" beat Revolver to the street; but "Tomorrow Never Knows" was recorded first, so that's got to count for something!

I really don't hear very much psychedelia in "The Word" at alll, aside from maybe the harmonium drone. Rhythmically it's got too much R&B bounce to soar angelic, and there's nothing terribly trippy about universal-love lyrics.

I think there's too much grey-area to get a truly definitive answer (it'stomorrowneverknows) as to the absolute first. "Norwegian Wood" was a definite signpost in that direction, and so was "Rain". If Ben Ramon can trace it back to "Ticket To Ride", I can take it a step further to "Eight Days A Week" - that faded-in intro is pretty trippy for 1964!

(Of course, we have to overlook the fact that those latter two songs predate the band's actual psychedelic experiences, if that matters...)

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2 February 2013 - 12.53am

First song that came to my mind was Tomorrow Never Knows.

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3 February 2013 - 10.15pm

I suggest that the opening to Ticket To Ride is the beginning of their psychedelic stage-it's mild for sure - but that's why I say it's the beginning. Those chords with the drum beat, that early psychedelia in my book.

In the same way that Day Tripper's opening guitar lick is the very beginning of heavy metal. To me.

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4 February 2013 - 6.16am

robert said
I suggest that the opening to Ticket To Ride is the beginning of their psychedelic stage-it's mild for sure - but that's why I say it's the beginning. Those chords with the drum beat, that early psychedelia in my book.

In the same way that Day Tripper's opening guitar lick is the very beginning of heavy metal. To me.

I agree with both of the points mentioned above. The drum beat is simple and easy but it still sounds psychedelic, especially when it goes with the guitar riff.

Day Tripper, heavy guitar sound but not as heavy as the present Metal we have today.

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4 February 2013 - 2.26pm

Gerell said

robert said
I suggest that the opening to Ticket To Ride is the beginning of their psychedelic stage-it's mild for sure - but that's why I say it's the beginning. Those chords with the drum beat, that early psychedelia in my book.

In the same way that Day Tripper's opening guitar lick is the very beginning of heavy metal. To me.

I agree with both of the points mentioned above. The drum beat is simple and easy but it still sounds psychedelic, especially when it goes with the guitar riff.

Day Tripper, heavy guitar sound but not as heavy as the present Metal we have today.

I agree - that's why I said that Day Trippers is the very beginning of heavy metal

 

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4 February 2013 - 2.57pm

Hm, I don't think "Day Tripper" is quite as metallic as either of The Kinks' two big 1964 singles. But then, I've always said that Howlin' Wolf (and his overamped guitarist Willie Johnson) invented metal back in 1951!

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