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26 December 2017
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~ Revolution 9 is the music of the future

~The Government is controlled by insane people

~ The “moon” does not exist

~ Paul is really spelled like this: Paal

~ George Doesn’t Matter*

 

*he does.

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Bravo. Great show. How brave.

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TheWalrusWasBrian said

~The Government is controlled by insane people

I don’t think that’s controversial – I think it’s a commonly accepted fact!

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The Hole Got Fixed said

TheWalrusWasBrian said
~The Government is controlled by insane people

I don’t think that’s controversial – I think it’s a commonly accepted fact!  

Depends what country you live in. 

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27 December 2017
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The Hole Got Fixed said

TheWalrusWasBrian said
~The Government is controlled by insane people

I don’t think that’s controversial – I think it’s a commonly accepted fact!  

I just said that because John said something similar in an interview, and conspiracy theorists thought he was referring to the Illuminati. But maybe he was, I don’t know these things.

Oh, and I do live in the USA, sadly.

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30 December 2017
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It’s acceptable to listen to Christmas music year-round

The nicest English-speaking accent in the world comes from Chicago

Glitter makes everything better

People should have the right to take their life if they so chose and they shouldn’t be stopped or hospitalized unless they want to be helped

The idea of Santa Claus is conniving and materialistic

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@Little Piggy Dragonguy said
People should have the right to take their life if they so chose and they shouldn’t be stopped or hospitalized unless they want to be helped

This is one I need to disagree with. I have struggled with mental health problems much of my life, and I have – much to my regret – multiple attempts at taking my life in my past. At the time of those actions, I was in no fit state mentally to make such a decision with a result that couldn’t be reversed. Luckily for me, at a time I knew no better, good people prevented me from completing the action I desired in those dark dark moments.

There is an argument that those with a terminal illness, especially one that can be prolonged by modern medical science beyond endurance or consent, should be allowed the manner and timing of their death that they choose with the use of a living will. It would be wholly wrong not to intervene when the struggle is with mental health rather than physical health though.

I should have the right to decide on the timing of my exit should my cancer return and it moved into a terminal stage. When it’s the demon in my head urging me to do things I wouldn’t when the sun is shining, and I’m doing all I can to avoid the help because I don’t believe I deserve it, those that have ignored my protestations have saved my life many times, when I have been unfit to do so, and was pleading that I didn’t want to survive.

I still have bad days, many bad days, but I have good days, and I have great days, and all those moments of joy and happiness would have been lost had there not been those who ignored me when I kicked out against the help I needed but wasn’t well enough to ask for.

That struggle continues to this day, but I am grateful to those who keep hope alive in me, who have helped keep me alive in my darkest hours. Sometimes, oftentimes, someone not wanting to be helped means help is what they most need.

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Ron Nasty said

@Little Piggy Dragonguy said
People should have the right to take their life if they so chose and they shouldn’t be stopped or hospitalized unless they want to be helped

This is one I need to disagree with. I have struggled with mental health problems much of my life, and I have – much to my regret – multiple attempts at taking my life in my past. At the time of those actions, I was in no fit state mentally to make such a decision with a result that couldn’t be reversed. Luckily for me, at a time I knew no better, good people prevented me from completing the action I desired in those dark dark moments.

There is an argument that those with a terminal illness, especially one that can be prolonged by modern medical science beyond endurance or consent, should be allowed the manner and timing of their death that they choose with the use of a living will. It would be wholly wrong not to intervene when the struggle is with mental health rather than physical health though.

I should have the right to decide on the timing of my exit should my cancer return and it moved into a terminal stage. When it’s the demon in my head urging me to do things I wouldn’t when the sun is shining, and I’m doing all I can to avoid the help because I don’t believe I deserve it, those that have ignored my protestations have saved my life many times, when I have been unfit to do so, and was pleading that I didn’t want to survive.

I still have bad days, many bad days, but I have good days, and I have great days, and all those moments of joy and happiness would have been lost had there not been those who ignored me when I kicked out against the help I needed but wasn’t well enough to ask for.

That struggle continues to this day, but I am grateful to those who keep hope alive in me, who have helped keep me alive in my darkest hours. Sometimes, oftentimes, someone not wanting to be helped means help is what they most need.  

Very sorry to hear that, RN. The BB will always be around for you <3. I have to agree, as while I’ve (thankfully) never been suicidal, at my worst points mostly with my panic attacks, I am in no place to make big decisions.

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30 December 2017
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I think it should be determined on a case by case basis whether or not you should prevent the person from ending their life as opposed to being for or against it. There are some times where i feel we should go out of our way to save the person from killing itself and other times i think the person has a clear enough conscience to make up its own mind and should be left alone to die. There’s a difference between a 12 year old girl who’s getting bullied at school and a 65 year old pedophile who’s got absolutely nothing to live for and lost his home, family, and job, 1 should be saved and the other should be left to die IMO.

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30 December 2017
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Dark Overlord said
I think it should be determined on a case by case basis whether or not you should prevent the person from ending their life as opposed to being for or against it. There are some times where i feel we should go out of our way to save the person from killing itself and other times i think the person has a clear enough conscience to make up its own mind and should be left alone to die. There’s a difference between a 12 year old girl who’s getting bullied at school and a 65 year old pedophile who’s got absolutely nothing to live for and lost his home, family, and job, 1 should be saved and the other should be left to die IMO.  

Many of us recall a time where you reached out to the Beatles Bible during a dark time. We were here for you and happy to be, but it was clear that you were in a bad place and needed help. It was my first exposure to that type of crisis, and Im extremely grateful it was averted. None of us would have willingly let you harm yourself, even if you made the decision  yourself. “You” were not you. Thankfully its getting better all the time. 

P.s, If i’ve intruded on your privacy at all Dark Overlord I will edit out this post. 

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It’s true, i needed help but at the time all i wanted to do is die and i was waiting for Joe to do just what he did and then i was going to say my goodbyes. I got up to that point but since i decided to send an email to some of you guys i got the help i needed and was able to mend my relationship with everyone on the forum and am now currently at the point where i no longer feel suicidal. I guess in my case preventing me from killing myself was the right thing to do. Sorry if i got too personal. By the way, your post is fine just the way it is, there’s no need to edit anything out.

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Seeing how everyone’s lists were taken relatively well, i thought i’d do one myself:

1. Women aren’t oppressed in the US.

2. You should be allowed to have a romantic relationship with whoever you want, as long as it’s between consenting human adults (or children close in age).

3. I completely agree with Donald Trump’s response to Charlottesville.

4. As much as i love a home cooked meal, i prefer fast food.

5. The wage gap doesn’t exist.

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The wage gap does exist, @Dark Overlord , just not in the way that most people seem to think it does. It’s not usually that women get paid less for the same work, as this is illegal in most countries, but rather that the male gender on the whole earns far more, as more high ranking positions like CEOs are occupied by men. To some extent this is a hard problem to deal with, as the age you usually reach such a position (mid to late 30s) is the age most women decide to have children and therefore scale down their ambition career-wise. However, we can still do more by encouraging women to be ambitious as this doesn’t happen nearly enough.

As with the “woman aren’t oppressed in the US” thing, I have to disagree. I’m going to assume from my limited knowledge of your personal life that you’re a white male (apologies if this isn’t correct), so as you’ve probably not experienced it yourself (again, sorry if I’m wrong, I’m generalising lots here) what you may be struggling with is the idea of non-institutional oppression. It’s true that aside from a few isolated cases (and the wage gap thing), women aren’t nearly as oppressed legally and institutionally as they used to be, but they still are in society’s perceptions. A simple look at the size and scale of the #MeToo thing will show you how much sexual harassment is a problem. Hell, the president of the US is someone who objectifies women and views them based solely upon their physical appearance rather than their actual merits as a person. The point I’m making is that the oppression is of a different kind than simply institutional, as it’s all about the psychology and the continued objectification of women that frustrates me to no end. It happens here in the UK too – when Theresa May met with Nicola Sturgeon, the papers were full of comments about their legs and physical appearance rather than the stuff that matters which is the politics they discussed etc. Would that have happened between say David Cameron and Alex Salmond? No, of course not. Women are still viewed as commodities by a depressing amount of men, and also by the media to a large extent. It’s a hard problem to deal with since we can’t just sign a bit of legislation to stop it – it’s deeply rooted into the psychology of basically all of us.

I hope my post comes across as respectful and that I’m not going too far off topic, but this is an issue I feel quite strongly about and would like to get my point of view out there in some form or another.

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Your post is fine and i was expecting some backlash although considering you’ve critiqued feminism earlier in this thread, you’re the last person i was expecting it from.

Anyways, you say that men are more likely to have higher ranking positions like CEO but this has nothing to do with discrimination, it just happens to be that men are more likely to choose that job than a woman for various reasons such as how men are more likely to take risks then women or how women are historically housewives and men are historically hard workers. There are woman CEOs, they’re just as likely to get hired and they make just as much as if they were a man. The choice is there for all, it’s just that men are more likely to choose it.

As for women being oppressed in the US, none of those examples are oppression. Sure, women get sexually harassed and assaulted more often then men but men have to deal with false rape accusations which can throw an innocent man in jail and can cause so much stress and anxiety that one man committed suicide because of it. Women may not be the best off in some situations but neither are men. Also, Donald Trump is a 10 year old stuck in a politicians body, he says a lot of stupid and immature things and the only reason he’s president is because of our flawed 2 party system, he’s not a good example to use. As for the objectification of women, there’s 2 types, voluntary, which i’m fine with, and involuntary, which is messed up but not oppression. Also, men can be objectified both voluntary and involuntary.

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By the way, i just wanted to let you guys know that i’m not sexist. I believe that women deserve full equality and should have all the rights that men do, the only difference between me and others is that i believe that women already have this.

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I would definitely consider myself a feminist, being a fan of feminist literature and strongly believing in the basic ideology of equality, but that doesn’t mean I identify with all feminist rhetoric or that I like what a lot of third/fourth wave feminists are doing. 

That said, I don’t agree that women not reaching high ranking positions isn’t necessarily discrimination. You’ve got to consider the two levels of it – a) the legal and practical level i.e it is possible for a woman to do this? and b) the social taboos, unwritten rules and expectations that hinder progress in so many ways. Sure, women aren’t prevented from reaching these positions but they’re a long way from encouraged, like men are. You say men are more likely to choose it – that’s because men are grown up and raised to be ambitious and to aim high, whereas woman are expected to be content forever being the wife, the mother, the stay at home.

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While i agree that we should get rid of the social taboos, unwritten rules and expectations that hinder progress in so many ways as well as the reason why men are more likely to have higher positions is because of the way men and women are raised, how can it be discrimination if we’re not discriminating. Sure, we’re not encouraging women to become CEO as much as we should but we’re not stopping them either, there’s nothing preventing a woman from becoming CEO of a multi million dollar organization except the same exact things that would prevent a man from doing so. I can’t think of a better example of a successful high paying woman than Oprah Winfrey, a black woman who’s also a multi billionaire.

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I’m gonna give this another go at this

1. U2 is pretty terrible

2. Linkin Park’s Hybrid Theory is better than anything Rage Against The Machine has put out

3. Prince’s Guitar playing is on par with Hendrix

4. Rick and Morty is Overrated

5. Hey Arnold was a better show on Nickelodeon than Rugrats

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Prince’s guitar skills aren’t bad at all but i wouldn’t compare him to Hendrix. Sure, Prince may have some good moments on the guitar but you can’t beat Jimi Hendrix with his tricks like combining lead and rhythm, excessive use of the whammy bar, having the ability to play exceptionally well on both soft and heavy songs, and influencing generations of lefty guitarists like myself to modify right handed guitars for left handed use and to not listen when people tell you to play right handed.

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Dark Overlord said
Sure, women get sexually harassed and assaulted more often then men but men have to deal with false rape accusations which can throw an innocent man in jail and can cause so much stress and anxiety that one man committed suicide because of it. Women may not be the best off in some situations but neither are men. 

men have to deal with false rape accusations which can throw an innocent man in jail and can cause so much stress and anxiety that one man committed suicide because of it

 

Please tell me this is a joke. Are you really trying to say that women getting raped isn’t that bad when you take into account all the innocent men who get accused of raping people (and the one person who committed suicide)? Also, I think this is important to share:

Only 2-8% of rapes are falsely reported, the same percentage as for other felonies

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