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Lennon Song Fragments That Really Grab You
14 August 2014
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(I wonder if the reason there was no topic on this, but there was about Paul, has something to do with Lennon's style of music, or people's perception of it...)

Anyway, to kick this off, I'll note a very subtle electric bass lick in his lovely song "You Are Here" (from the sorely underrated Mind Games album): 

At 01:16-17, and at 01:26-27, just at the end of each sung phrase (e.g., "Love... has opened up... my eyes" / "Love... has blown... right through"), the bass up high hits an interesting interval of two notes, twice -- C-F#, C-F# (C down to a F# below it -- in the context of D7, which is crucial).  One wonders if this was John's inspired idea, or the bassist's idea (Gordon Edwards).

Here's the Tube Chop.

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In the song 'God' where he pauses after the line "I don't believe in Beatles".

The first time I heard that, I gasped. It gets me every time.

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15 August 2014
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8That and also the emotion of the last section starting with "the dream is over" and singing "you'll just have to carry on" - there was no getting back so you'd better get used to it.

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15 August 2014
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Yeah Zig and mmm, memorable moments in a song full of them (e.g., the way he attacks the Z in "Zimmerman" seems pointedly... zealous...).

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There are so many song fragments that grab me, I don't know where to start.... but I'll say that your Tube Chop of You Are Here always gets me. Not the bass line, but the melody and John's singing. Just lovely.

I'll just mention three Beatle John fragments for now 'cuz I could go on all day:

  1. Singing-wise, the entire song Girl is just so beautifully done, but I especially love when John sings "...and she promises the earth to me and I believe her..." The "believe her" part is so sultry – grabs me every time.
  2. In I Should Have Known Better, it kills me when he sings the second time (at about 2:09 or so), "you're gonna say you love me too-oo-oo, oh-oh..." Very sexy.
  3. The entire song of I'll Be Back... think it's so overlooked and under-rated. Just a gorgeous song with so many lovely fragments, such as: a) the second "oh-oh-oh" after he sings "but I got a big surprise." It's that quintessential Lennon "oh" that many have tried to imitate but no one has been able to do successfully  b) "I wanna go" - the way his voice goes up when he sings "go" - a very Lennonesque quirk that's very endearing.  c) I love his strumming in that song – it's forceful and strong against the vulnerable tone of the lyrics. (He does the same in Things We Said Today, which I think is another overlooked classic.) But there's a little fragment after "I wanna go" that sounds conciliatory and sweet, in contrast to the rest of the song. That yin/yang aspect of John is what makes a lot of his work so interesting and emotionally resonant.

John's voice was so amazing. I'm a big Patsy Cline fan too, and the thing that she and John have in common that makes them such great singers is that ability to infuse emotion so effortlessly into their songs. The way both of them bend notes is so smart and adds so much lusciousness to their songs. They don't have to add flashy flourishes or oversing anything. They take what's there and they make it their own with an emotional honesty that's impossible to fake. Just so genuine and original.

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Lennonista, I'll listen again and more carefully to I'll Be Back (I've probably only heard it once years ago).  While on the whole I am more pleased with Paul's singing, there is at least one thing John had that Paul seems unable to produce: that effortless emotion you mentioned.  It's like an actor who can do the amazing feat of being "real" in his role and you can just feel that he's bringing his humanity into that fictional character.  As I said in another thread here many moons ago, Paul is more like DeNiro -- better technique -- but John is like Pacino, going higher or deepr to a touch of tragic genius.

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Isnt this for John's solo work as we have one for fragments of Beatles tracks and we don't need to duplicate thread contents?

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meanmistermustard said
Isnt this for John's solo work as we have one for fragments of Beatles tracks and we don't need to duplicate thread contents?

It didn't say that it was limited to solo work in the OP's first post, so forgive my transgression, meanmistermustard and Bulldog.

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Well, I guess I intended it to be John's solo work, but I think it's fair to tease out John (or Paul) from the tight mesh of Beatles.  On that note, I listened to "I'll Be Back" and it doesn't grab me especially, but there are nice touches with John's voice.

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We have a thread for Paul's solo work. I would like to see this thread be dedicated to John's post-Beatles career.

If we keep Beatles songs mixed in here, someone might say that John sang something that might have been Paul, and we know where that leads ahdn_paul_02paul-mccartney

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