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23 December 2010
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Does anyone know if the guitar solo in 'Slow Down ' is definitely John. I sounds more like George and is pretty complicated for John doing a solo like that in 1964.

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23 December 2010
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According to This article, It`s John: /songs/slow-down/

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23 December 2010
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This was addressed just a few weeks ago on the main "Slow Down " page, and I said that I was intrigued and that I'd give a listen and offer my opinion. And I forgot, and now I'm even more curious; but it's too late and I'll be out of town until the new year! Damn.

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23 December 2010
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I don't know for sure that it's John, but it's pretty badly played. Ian MacDonald says it's him, whereas Walter Everett and others say it's George. I think I'll change it to George - it sounds more like him, although he was clearly having an off day.

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23 December 2010
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What does Lewisohn say?

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23 December 2010
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It's Definitely George. If You Check Out The Version on Live At The BBC ,  It is way out Of John's Range of Skill. George just was off on the day they taped the EMI version.

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Nothing about this.

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23 December 2010
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Okay Then

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I know the Lennon fans out there are not going to like this but George taught him how to play guitar back in 1958. At that time, john was using banjo strings on his guitar and did not know very many chords.

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23 December 2010
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I don't think the Lennon fans among us (or McCartney, Harrison, Starr or Ono fans; or, uh, Beatles fans, for that matter) would deny that George's guitar skills were superior to John's. Or why we should necessarily like or dislike it.

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23 December 2010
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Sometimes People have problems with the truth about their heroes, especially when of a critical nature.

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23 December 2010
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Inner Light said:

I know the Lennon fans out there are not going to like this, but George taught him how to play guitar back in 1958. At that time, John was using banjo strings on his guitar and did not know very many chords.


Er... don't you mean Paul?

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Yup, it was Paul who taught him his chords - Paul played it up side down and John had to figure out how to flip it.

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In terms of the solo - I am pretty sure it's George - sounds like George's style (esp. the BBC version).

In terms of who is the better player - as a guitar player myself, I look at it this way - George had a better mastery overall of the guitar - there's no question about it. When John was asked by Rolling Stone he said he didn't think he was that good a technical player - he never stressed his guitar abilities.

With that said, John was a better rhythm player than George. John's syncopated playing, his triplet rhythms and other imaginative chord voicings and reggae hits are very underrated - he called himself the invisible guitar player - but I'll tell you that it's John's driving rhythms that drove that band.

Let It Be really drives that point - on the rocking numbers John is like an engine at high RPMs.

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skye said:

Yup, it was Paul who taught him his chords – Paul played it up side down and John had to figure out how to flip it.


Wouldn't that make it easier? I mean, it would be like a mirror…
 

Oh, wait. No. It wouldn't. 

I should know that. I've been playing for nearly a year. 

EDIT: Wait . If Paul was playing a re-strung guitar, it would. Dang you, skye. You tricked me. 

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24 December 2010
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As a non-guitarist, I`m Confused

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OK, I don't play guitar either but this is how I *think*  it works:

The chord is this like this (using three strings to make it easy on me)

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__x_____

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Paul plays this (his guitar is upside because he's left handed, but it's strung for someone who plays right)

___x____

_____x__

_x______

So John sees this and has to rotate it, not mirror it, becuase that will be a different sound.

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24 December 2010
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That helps alot, Thanks Skye

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Am very pleased they did this on the BBC so we get a taste of how they might have performed it live. The rhythm track is incredible, especially from the solo when the four really hit it, and Ringo's drums are once again fantastic and forceful. And its played at such a ferocious pace. More proof (in my opinion) that just as a cover band the Beatles were miles ahead of their rivals.

As for the studio take John's scream before the solo could be his most maniacal on record.

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The studio version has that Jerry Lee Lewis/Little Richard piano vamp, which I sorely miss in this live version.  Also, in the studio version, John does that thing with his lips for which I know not the name -- basically you forcefully blow air out your lips, creating a kind of blubbery sound (I wonder who first did that in pop singing?).

Speaking of that blubbery lips thing, the singer for the rock band "Crow" replicated that in their cover of "Slow Down " (from their 1970 album Crow By Crow). 

Forgive me father, for I must blaspheme -- twice:  Dave Wagner was a much more powerful singer than John, sort of a cross between Robert Plant and David Clayton-Thomas (of "Blood, Sweat and Tears" fame).  And I like Crow's version of "Slow Down " much better than that of the Beatles.  Crow slows the pace down to a steady, straight-ahead rock tempo, setting the mood for quite a different song.  Look for the extended scream by Wagner at the end which sets out on an unearthly, protracted descant, fused with some kind of effect with an electric guitar chord.

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