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17 January 2013
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What are your favourites, in terms of quality/impact/or whatever? Did they change in ranking in Beatles & Post-Beatles iterations?

Beatles: John Lennon (beyond my favourite musician/lyricist of all time), Paul McCartney (extreme musical ability and singing quality, etc., etc.), George Harrison (a late bloomer, but wholly shit what a great flower), and Ringo Starr (fabulous person, wonderful drummer, essential, yet still 4th in a band of four Gods).

 

Post Beatles: John Lennon (see above, but the poignancy of his compositions..., martyrdom), George Harrison (almost tied for first...undoubtedly the best of the beginning of the post-Beatle era), Paul McCartney (Wings, other stuff...outstanding but still a threshold below Lennon and Harrison), and Ringo (a very strong fourth place...Christ all mighty, the fourth man of the team still had a couple of number one hits, and many others besides).

 

What do you think?

17 January 2013
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Gerell said
This is the million dollar question! Honestly I treat the Beatles equally during their times as a band, although I only follow Paul's post-Beatles career. The only post-Beatles track I have other than Paul's is George's
What Is Life.

Man you should really listen to all of "All Things Must Pass" it really is great ahdn_george_08

 

Also, this topic (because it is common as Funny Paper said) always makes me wonder about the hypothetical "13th album"...  I can only imagine what great things they could have done as The Beatles to songs that are incredibly good on their own.  I love post-Beatles, but I always view them as a "sum of the parts is not greater than the whole" kind of deal.  

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parlance said

fabfouremily said
It took George a lot of persuation and certain financial worries to get him to do Anthology

Oh, really? Hadn't heard that. Is that in one of his bios?

parlance

 

 

It's been stated in multiple books (including You Never Give Me Your Money) but you only have to actually watch the Anthology to realize it. George looks absolutely miserable, especially when it's him, Paul, and Ringo all in the same room/space sitting around talking. Apparently, he only agreed to do it because he desperately needed the money after Handmade went tits-up and he was screwed by his manager, or he would've literally lost everything (house, money, everything).

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Funny Paper said

DrBeatle said

 George looks absolutely miserable, especially when it's him, Paul, and Ringo all in the same room/space sitting around talking.

I remember when I saw that, there was one scene where they are all sitting outside in the grass.  George is holding a ukelele, and Paul gently suggests something to George, and you can see George bristle and recoil -- subtly, but unmistakably -- and Paul just cocks his head and says "Okay, that's fine, whatever you want to do".  Then George as he begins to pick out something on the ukelele, proceeds to ignore Paul and focus all his attention on Ringo. 

A lot of good George's Hindu Swamis and their yogic meditations did him, if he has to hold on to all of that anger still, after 25 fucking years.

 

I know exactly which scene you're talking about, and it's enough to make you squirm in your seat just watching it! I've read many people make the same comment you made regarding how he was all into meditation and inner peace but was very cranky and obsessed over money (even from the earliest Beatles days) and held onto anger and resentment and bitterness for a LONG time. I don't doubt he was genuinely a good person, but he really needed to learn how to forgive. Hell, if Ringo could forgive GEORGE HIMSELF for shagging his wife, surely George could forgive Paul for bossing him around a bit in the late 60s? Especially since Paul was really the one who actually worked with George on his songs, John being the one who skipped all the sessions post-66 (and John is even on record complaining about when George called him for some help on Taxman).

 

And Linde, I remember reading that somewhere, too...hopefully one of us (or someone else) can dig that up

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