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27 January 2013
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RunForYourLife
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Are there any live performances where Ringo plays the "What'd I Say" beat like he does on the record?

 

For the record, I've never bought the asinine conspiracy theory that he's not playing on the record, his ability to play that drum line was what got him into the band, and he clearly plays a similar line in "The Night Before". I'd always assumed he simplified it in concert because it wasn't worth the effort when he couldn't be heard, and the simplified version was easier for the other 3 to hear.

28 January 2013
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RunForYourLife said
Are there any live performances where Ringo plays the "What'd I Say" beat like he does on the record?

 

For the record, I've never bought the asinine conspiracy theory that he's not playing on the record, his ability to play that drum line was what got him into the band, and he clearly plays a similar line in "The Night Before". I'd always assumed he simplified it in concert because it wasn't worth the effort when he couldn't be heard, and the simplified version was easier for the other 3 to hear.

Interesting theory. I think so, nobody could really hear him live, especially with the screams. I still believe that he plays on the record.

1 February 2013
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I was watching the Anthology again last night and Ringo mentions how by that point, all he could do on the drums in concerts was keep the steady 4-beat on the snare because they couldn't hear a damn thing and if he tried to do anything more complex or go to the tom-toms, it just got lost in the noise. I also have read that he had to watch the other 3's movements and lips to try and guess where in the song they were because they couldn't hear anything.

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2 February 2013
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It´s ridiculous, when you think about it. No artist should have to perform under those circumstances.

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2 February 2013
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fabfouremily said
It´s ridiculous, when you think about it. No artist should have to perform under those circumstances.

Granted, they were severely limited by the equipment at the time. The real shame is that, right when they quit touring in '66, that's when The Who, Cream, and Hendrix were working with Jim Marshall to help invent the more powerful amplification that became standard by the late 60s.

 

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3 February 2013
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DrBeatle said

fabfouremily said
It´s ridiculous, when you think about it. No artist should have to perform under those circumstances.

Granted, they were severely limited by the equipment at the time. The real shame is that, right when they quit touring in '66, that's when The Who, Cream, and Hendrix were working with Jim Marshall to help invent the more powerful amplification that became standard by the late 60s.

 

Talk about bad timing. But all they really needed was for the audience to quiten down a bit (I understood why they all screamed so much, but it was disrespectful to the boys).

 

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4 February 2013
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fabfouremily said

DrBeatle said

fabfouremily said
It´s ridiculous, when you think about it. No artist should have to perform under those circumstances.

Granted, they were severely limited by the equipment at the time. The real shame is that, right when they quit touring in '66, that's when The Who, Cream, and Hendrix were working with Jim Marshall to help invent the more powerful amplification that became standard by the late 60s.

 

Talk about bad timing. But all they really needed was for the audience to quiten down a bit (I understood why they all screamed so much, but it was disrespectful to the boys).

 

It was obvious that most of their listeners weren't interested in their music lol.

4 February 2013
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^certainly not until the direction of their music changed enough (as well as their appearances) that the teenyboppers were left behind.

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1 April 2013
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If he ever performed it live, then it would've been on their final Ed Sullivan appearance. I haven't seen it in a while, but the Beatles' music sounds pretty good compared to some of their other concerts from 1965 and especially their 1966 concerts.

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Another great song. I can't get over how the riff is pulled out of the feedback like a magician pulling flowers out of his sleeve. My one issue with the song is that the lyrics feel insecure. I Feel Fine seems as upbeat as can be, but John's borderline psycho insecurity flashes through. 

Baby's good to me, you know
She's happy as can be, you know
She said so
I'm in love with her and I feel fine
 
I could be wrong, but it feels like this relationship could be in an unhealthy stage and John is trying to lie about it. "Trust me, she's happy as can be she said so" has a completely different vibe from other John love songs of the time, i.e I Should Have Known Better, which describes the love rather than telling about that love exists and he feels fine. To me it feels closer to No Reply or If I Fell on the topic of emotional distress.

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3 May 2017
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I agree with you there @sir walter raleigh. I never really thought of it that way till I saw your post (no I never heard it at all, Till There Was You), but I was listening to it today and was struck by how insecure a song it is. He's trying to convince himself that he's in this relationship and feels fine, using her words about his buying her things as proof. paul-mccartney-facepalm_gif

What really struck me was the contrast between this, John's song, and the B-side, Paul's song. She's A Woman is utterly assured: in the very first verse, he sings, 'My love don't give me presents / I know that she's no peasant / All she ever has to give me, love forever and forever...'

It's a highly succinct example out of many of the contrast between John's and Paul's romantic relationship views at the time, as they expressed them in their songs.

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