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27 December 2012
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Hi, I’m desperate to know which vocal parts are who on the song Boys on PPM . I can make out Paul and Ringo and can hear another voice but I don’t know if it is John or George. And on the Boys page it says John and George sing. Can anyone help?

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27 December 2012
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It sounds like it’s Ringo on lead, with the other three doing 3 part harmony the “Bob-shoo-wop” and “Yeah, yeah, boys!” parts. John & George’s voices kind of blend together, but if you listen carefully, you can make out all 3. Live footage of them performing it confirms this.

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28 December 2012
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Thanks a lot! I really wanted to find out and I think I can hear their harmony parts now.

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The entire solo section on this track has to be one of the most energetic in the entire Beatles catalogue, they are completely on it right from Ringo’s “Alright George”. The hollering cries, Ringo’s drums and George’s solo are incredible. Plus some of the guitar work during the track is so good to listen to.

There are a good few Beatles that I feel I should like but for whatever reason don’t. ‘Boys ‘ is one where I feel I shouldn’t like it yet get caught up in its pure rocking fun and really enjoy it. 

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Heard the live Hollywood Bowl ’64 performance of the song just now, and noticed that Ringo plays the beat notably differently than he does in February ’63, choosing to stagger the heavy accents irregularly. (It’s almost akin to what Pete Best was trying out in “Love Me Do ” in fact.) It works very well, actually….interesting that Ringo would choose to deviate from a arrangement that worked fine on its own. (Other than “I Feel Fine ” being simplified out of necessity)

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Paul: Yeah well… first of all, we’re bringing out a ‘Stamp Out Detroit’ campaign.

         

8 August 2023
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Unless there’s a better video, I can’t find a 1964 video where I can tell what the bloody ‘ell Ringo is doing on the drums, there’s so much ambient noise and the recording is so inferior.  Just by watching the motion of his sticks, however, I would guess it’s roughly the same as the 1963 album.

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8 August 2023
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Unless there’s a better video, I can’t find a 1964 video where I can tell what the bloody ‘ell Ringo is doing on the drums, there’s so much ambient noise and the recording is so inferior.  Just by watching the motion of his sticks, however, I would guess it’s roughly the same as the 1963 album  

Not sure when that one was filmed, Sea Belt, but Ringo seems to be playing with the same irregular accents as at the Hollywood Bowl – like, in the original EMI take, he places two snare hits to coincide with the “BOP…” in the “bop shoo wop” bits, whereas in these live takes he spaces out the snare accents in between the “bop” and “shoo”. It’s like he’s playing “ONE two three FOUR FIVE six SEVEN eight” as opposed to the original, which is more “one two THREE FOUR five six SEVEN EIGHT”

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GEORGE: In fact, The Detroit Sound. JOHN: In fact, yes. GEORGE: In fact, yeah. Tamla-Motown artists are our favorites. The Miracles. JOHN: We like Marvin Gaye. GEORGE: The Impressions PAUL & GEORGE: Mary Wells. GEORGE: The Exciters. RINGO: Chuck Jackson. JOHN: To name but eighty. 

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I can’t hear what you’re hearing from that video — I wish I could!

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Haha, OK, maybe if I post the studio and Hollywood Bowl ones together, i’ll better at demonstrating what I’m talking about…give a listen to just the opening few seconds of each song (first few seconds *after* Paul’s spoken intro on the live one, obviously):

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8 August 2023
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…OK! So, both versions of the song begin with that introductory three-note bit, and then Ringo plays an eight-beat drum pattern, which he’ll repeat throughout the song. On the studio take, he’s hitting his snare for emphasis on every 3rd, 4th, and 7th beat. But at the Bowl, he limits his snare hits to the 4th and 7th beats alone, which makes the beat feel a little looser and eccentric. I hope

I find it an interesting and daring choice for Ringo, since it seems like that live variation would be slightly more mentally taxing to play (not that I play drums)

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9 August 2023
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vonbontee said
…OK! So, both versions of the song begin with that introductory three-note bit, and then Ringo plays an eight-beat drum pattern, which he’ll repeat throughout the song. On the studio take, he’s hitting his snare for emphasis on every 3rd, 4th, and 7th beat. But at the Bowl, he limits his snare hits to the 4th and 7th beats alone, which makes the beat feel a little looser and eccentric. I hope

I find it an interesting and daring choice for Ringo, since it seems like that live variation would be slightly more mentally taxing to play (not that I play drums)

  

That one I can hear!  Thanks!  As a percussionist (not a drummer per se), that variation is very familiar to me, and to me it’s just a slight difference from the studio version, leaving out one of those 2 beats that come in quick succession, though even though it’s slight, it may have a markedly distinctive effect on the listener.  I like both patterns, so I’m glad there are two versions to enjoy.  Perhaps Ringo just thought “why don’t I vary it for the concert?”

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