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Would All Things Must Pass have been better as a double instead of triple album?
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Von Bontee said, 

[It is amazing that a song like 'My Sweet Lord' which is a tribute to Krishna was such a big hit at that time.]

"Well, the timing was right! There was a whole lot of Jesus-freak rock songs becoming hits around 1970-1972, so a song title like "My Sweet Lord" would seem to fit right in with "Jesus Christ Superstar" and "Spirit In The Sky" and so forth. (Plus, the basic tune was already a proven success.)"

 OUCH...

While we're at it, why not compare these albums to Lennon's Imagine?

And while we're really at it, what if Lennon, McCartney and company had released albums with just one side????? (but none of us here on the forum will ever agree on what those one sides would be)

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Technically, literal *songs* require singing. "Flying" qualifies as a song, but "Pet Sounds" and "YYZ" don't.

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Von Bontee said
Technically, literal *songs* require singing. "
Flying" qualifies as a song, but "Pet Sounds" and "YYZ" don't.

Then what are they?

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IveJustSeenAFaceo said

Von Bontee said
Technically, literal *songs* require singing. "
Flying" qualifies as a song, but "Pet Sounds" and "YYZ" don't.

Then what are they?

Instrumentals. a-hard-days-night-john-1

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Ron Nasty said

IveJustSeenAFaceo said

Von Bontee said
Technically, literal *songs* require singing. "
Flying" qualifies as a song, but "Pet Sounds" and "YYZ" don't.

Then what are they?

Instrumentals. a-hard-days-night-john-1

Let's just call them all "tracks". Though I still'll probably call instrumentals songs.

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The kind of "instrumentals" that grace the 'All Things Must Pass' album aren't quite what 'YYZ' is, or 'Flying' for that matter.  'YYZ' is highly structured, just compare the studio version to the live versions and RUSH recreates it as an orchestra would recapture a classic piece that's written down, they obviously spent alot of time (and takes) to make it into what it is.  'Flying' follows a stucture (or pattern, if you like) as well, although much more basic than 'YYZ', with an overlying melody that's played on the Mellotron before The Beatles' voices repeat the same melody during the next "verse".  The 'All Things Must Pass' "instrumentals" don't appear to (from what I remember anyway, for I haven't listened to them in quite some time) follow any sort of structure and are pretty much what the name implies, Apple "Jams", they're more on par with the ending of 'Flying' where the Mellotron takes off and "flies", or the 'Arial Tour Instrumental' (the extended version of 'Flying&#39a-hard-days-night-george-10...:-)  

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Jams can be good like anything else, it would an incredibly sweeping statement to say all jams are bad. I don't mind the ones on ATMP when playing the album thru but don't ever go to them outside of that.

"I Told You Before, Get Out of My Door" from the Twickenham rehearsals i've always enjoyed since hearing it on 'Jamming With Heather' so i dont find all the jams during the Get Back sessions tedious boredom, just the large majority.

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Musketeer Gripweed (kezron9) said
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My Sweet Lord lawsuit/plagerism kind took the joy out of the song for me.

 

The 'He's So Fine' debacle never changed my appreciation for 'My Sweet Lord' at all.  The Publisher of The Chiffons' hit was clearly gold digging and wouldn't have bothered pointing out any similarities at all if the song wasn't so financially successful.  George's response to the claims that he ripped it off were bang on, he said that "a lot of songs sound like a lot of other songs" and he's right.  It's not like 'My Sweet Lord'/'He's So Fine' is as obviously a "rip off" as 'Surfin' U.S.A.'/'Sweet Little Sixteen' is, among many others.  He also made a distinction here that's important, he said that he felt that 'My Sweet Lord' was "a great record" as opposed to being a "great song".  There's really not much to 'My Sweet Lord', or 'He's So Fine' for that matter, pretty basic musically but what made 'My Sweet Lord' so successful wasn't its chord structure or melody, it's the delivery by George and the other musicians who clearly elevated their performance with the song's strong heartfelt message.  It's like when a gospel choir gets up on their feet and puts their songsheets down and uses their hands to clap instead, there's a "feeling" to that record that's undeniable and what ultimately undoubtedly sold it, and The Chiffons' Publishers shouldn't have had any claim to that which they weren't a part of.  How many people would even know of 'He's So Fine' had it not been for George Harrison, George should get a share of their royalties too...:-)

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Billy Rhythm said

Musketeer Gripweed (kezron9) said
the
My Sweet Lord lawsuit/plagerism kind took the joy out of the song for me.

 

The 'He's So Fine' debacle never changed my appreciation for 'My Sweet Lord' at all.  The Publisher of The Chiffons' hit was clearly gold digging and wouldn't have bothered pointing out any similarities at all if the song wasn't so financially successful.  George's response to the claims that he ripped it off were bang on, he said that "a lot of songs sound like a lot of other songs" and he's right.  It's not like 'My Sweet Lord'/'He's So Fine' is as obviously a "rip off" as 'Surfin' U.S.A.'/'Sweet Little Sixteen' is, among many others.  He also made a distinction here that's important, he said that he felt that 'My Sweet Lord' was "a great record" as opposed to being a "great song".  There's really not much to 'My Sweet Lord', or 'He's So Fine' for that matter, pretty basic musically but what made 'My Sweet Lord' so successful wasn't its chord structure or melody, it's the delivery by George and the other musicians who clearly elevated their performance with the song's strong heartfelt message.  It's like when a gospel choir gets up on their feet and puts their songsheets down and uses their hands to clap instead, there's a "feeling" to that record that's undeniable and what ultimately undoubtedly sold it, and The Chiffons' Publishers shouldn't have had any claim to that which they weren't a part of.  How many people would even know of 'He's So Fine' had it not been for George Harrison, George should get a share of their royalties too...:-)

Very well put!!

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