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Why I don't like the early beatles
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GeorgeTSimpson
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29 August 2012 - 9.31pm

Probably many of you know that i don't like the early beatles rock'n'roll songs very much. I've always thought it was because I don't like rock'n'roll but yesterday I listened to John Lennon's album Rock'n'roll and it was simply awesome. So I decided that I just don't like the way the beatles play rock'n'roll. The beatles are my favourite band next to the wings but the way they play rock'n'roll is just boring for me. I think they play it too "beatley", which sounds awesome on Abbey Road, White Album etc. but for me it doesn't on the early rock'n'roll songs

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minime
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29 August 2012 - 9.49pm

I don't like the early Beatles, either (for the most part), but I think their rock covers are much better than their original songs back then a-hard-days-night-john-7

They have this very undefined, raunchy sound that is highlidhted by George's guitar and John's singing voice. I absolutely the way he sings songs suchs as Anna, Money or Twist n Shout

I don't really get what you mean by sounding "beatlesy", they have never sounded so un- beatle like as they did when they made those covers!

Reasons for me not liking the early writings of Beatles is mostly their lyrics (Stupid rhymes, exclamations and repeatedness, She Loves You is one of the worst) and a weird sense of hastiness I get from a lot of their early records... I know George Martin was partly responsible, but I don't like it ( fast tempo fits some of their songs though, such as I've seen a Face) I do realize these uptempo songs are part of the happy go lucky image many people have of the Beatles and therefore precious to them

And of course, as their skills developed, their songs became more complex, melodies, solos, lyrics, special effects; everything, and therefore, more interesting to me.

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Von Bontee
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29 August 2012 - 9.53pm

Think they played uptempo songs because fast songs are EXCITING, not because they had to live up to some image.

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FlyOn13
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29 August 2012 - 10.38pm

I will agree that there are a lot more amazing songs in the the later years, but I still love the early stuff. They made some really great songs and had pretty good all-together albums. It's not as fantastic as their later years, but it's up there with it.

Oh, and yes, it's true that we will never hear the end of how Tim doesn't like the early stuff. At least he can admit it. a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

Don't worry, Tim, we still love ya. a-hard-days-night-john-6

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mr. Sun king coming together
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29 August 2012 - 10.45pm

FlyOn13 said

Oh, and yes, it's true that we will never hear the end of how Tim doesn't like the early stuff. At least he can admit it. a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

Don't worry, Tim, we still love ya. a-hard-days-night-john-6

Oh. My. God. We aren't chastising him, for christ's sake. All we're doing is stating that we find it interesting he has such a visceral dislike of the first four albums (including the generally lauded A Hard Day's Night). We don't dislike him for it, or even care. We are interested. GeorgeTSimpson, even though I disagree, I want to make it clear I enjoy your posts - even though your taste is funny.

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29 August 2012 - 10.45pm

But not every song is rock and roll. There are some amazing ballads and well paced songs that dont just fly by at 1000mph (If I Fell, And I Love Her, No Reply, All Ive Got To Do, You Really Got A Hold On Me).

I dont want to sound like one of those EVERYONE MUST LOVE EVERYTHING BEATLES OR BE EXILED FOR ALL ETERNITY fans just that there are some incredible songs that i dont feel should be overlooked. And dont get me wrong some of the songs on those albums i rarely listen as they do nothing for me; Boys, Chains, Im Happy Just To Dance With You, Eight Days A Week, Kansas City and Hold Me Tight (a song i can not stand) to name but 5 (since i named 5 good ones above).

 

And nearly if not all my family dont like their rock and roll so its not just minime and George.

 

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GeorgeTSimpson
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29 August 2012 - 10.48pm

Thank you elise, mustard and sun king. I know many love the way the beatles play rock'n'roll but for me lennon's rock'n'roll album just sounds better. The not rock'n'roll songs are a different thing. They often sound quite similar to the songs on Abbey Road and White Album but still for me they just sound a bit worse. And it's not as though I never listen to the early albums, I do. Just not as often as I listen to the later albums

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Von Bontee
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29 August 2012 - 10.59pm

EVERYONE MUST LOVE EVERYTHING BEATLES OR BE EXILED FOR ALL ETERNITY!

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!"
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mr. Sun king coming together
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29 August 2012 - 11.04pm

Von Bontee said

EVERYONE MUST LOVE EVERYTHING BEATLES OR BE EXILED FOR ALL ETERNITY!

Even their £395 pens?

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

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29 August 2012 - 11.10pm

mr. Sun king coming together said

Von Bontee said

EVERYONE MUST LOVE EVERYTHING BEATLES OR BE EXILED FOR ALL ETERNITY!

Even their £395 pens?

Sounds a bargain, I could do with a new pen. Does it come with a free refill? Most would but this is Apple.

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FlyOn13
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30 August 2012 - 1.28am

Look, I'm sorry if anyone took my earlier comment the wrong way. I wasn't trying to chastise Tim in any way, shape, or form. In the first post, he said that many of us know that he doesn't like the Beatles early stuff, and it was just an "Um, no kidding", fun-poking gesture at how much he mentioned it. I'm not trying to start a fight, but I see how it could be misunderstood, and I apologize.
There, I'm glad I got that out. Carry on, everybody. ahdn_george_08

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30 August 2012 - 2.26pm

A lot of people I know like either the early or later Beatles.  C'est la Vie.

I am one of the lucky ones who gets to like it all.

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Into the Sky with Diamonds
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30 August 2012 - 5.42pm

Early Beatles, late Beatles, acoustic Beatles, psychedelic Beatles, ....

The remarkable thing here is that we're only talking about 7 yrs or so of recorded music....

There's another thread called "What Makes the Beatles great" (sorry, haven't opened it yet).

Well THAT'S one of the great things.

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SatanHimself
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30 August 2012 - 9.33pm

It also needs to be noted that our friend and original poster is 17.  When I was young, I pretty much disregarded most of everything before 'Help!', because what came after it was so much more dynamic to my ears.

 

Now I'm 40 and just spent two full days on the road listening to all of the BBC recordings.  There could be no Beatles 1967 without Beatles 1962.  Their fury, passion and innovation was (and still is) remarkable.

Sure, it's not as immediately life-changing.  But that's where some history and context is needed.  A viewing of the first couple of volumes of 'Anthology' helps bring that excitement to life.

E is for 'Ergent'.

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mr. Sun king coming together
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30 August 2012 - 9.42pm

SatanHimself said
It also needs to be noted that our friend and original poster is 17.  When I was young, I pretty much disregarded most of everything before 'Help!', because what came after it was so much more dynamic to my ears.

He's 13. I know it's really in the realm of nitpicking, but I merely can't help but do so, even though it doesn't change your point.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

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SatanHimself
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30 August 2012 - 10.30pm

My mistake, but it serves to illustrate the point even better.

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Long John Silver
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30 August 2012 - 10.50pm

I also prefer their later work, but then I also started liking older stuff (pre Rubber Soul) a lot, especially AHDN and Help. I still play more their post Rubber Soul but I appreciate all their music. Also there was a phase when I only listened to first 5 albums (as probably was getting fed up with other albums).

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IMDeWalrus
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31 August 2012 - 3.28am

Well --- to each his own -- but for my money, The Beatles' early stuff is among the best music there is out there.   "I Saw Her Standing There" -- "All My Loving" -- "You Can't Do That" -- "Please Please Me" -- "Hard Day's Night" -- wow... excellent tunes --  and they just got better.... I guess John called it... they started at the top and went to the toppermost... 

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Little Piggy Dragonguy
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31 August 2012 - 4.34am

I wasn't too keen on their early stuff for a while, but I have since been enlightened. Their first three albums are the happiest to listen to. Plus, I like John's vocals on AHDN better than any other album (though Rubber Soul is pretty close).

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fabfouremily
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31 August 2012 - 9.29am

SatanHimself said
It also needs to be noted that our friend and original poster is 17.  When I was young, I pretty much disregarded most of everything before 'Help!', because what came after it was so much more dynamic to my ears.

 

Now I'm 40 and just spent two full days on the road listening to all of the BBC recordings.  There could be no Beatles 1967 without Beatles 1962.  Their fury, passion and innovation was (and still is) remarkable.

Sure, it's not as immediately life-changing.  But that's where some history and context is needed.  A viewing of the first couple of volumes of 'Anthology' helps bring that excitement to life.

I don´t know how much age has to do with it. I´m a teenager and I love the early stuff. In fact, it was listening to Live At The BBC that first turned me on to The Beatles, and then I discovered the later stuff and naturally, loved that too.

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