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Who was Mr. Low?
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In spring 1960, at around the time the home recordings were taking place, McCartney and Stu Sutcliffe were both writing letters to local journalists and promoters, to try and get some group publicity. A few survive, including one written by McCartney to an unknown intended recipient, named only as Mr Low.

The letter is particularly interesting in that it mentions by name several very early Lennon-McCartney songs, a few of which are scarcely known. (In fact it is the only place we come across a song called “Keep Looking That Way”.) McCartney also claims that, “John and Paul have written over fifty tunes, ballads and fast numbers”, a writing tally which should be qualified by his later admission in the book The Beatles Anthology that, “Most of what we called our first hundred was probably our first five – we would lie our faces off then to get anyone to notice us.”

Dear Mr Low,

I am sorry about the time I have taken to write to you, but I hope I have not left it too late. Here are some details about the group. It consists of four boys: Paul McCartney (guitar), John Lennon (guitar), Stuart Sutcliffe (bass) and George Harrison (another guitar) and is called...

This line-up may at first seem dull but it must be appreciated that as the boys have above average instrumental ability they achieve surprisingly varied effects. Their basic beat is off-beat, but this has recently tended to be accompanied by a faint on-beat; thus the overall sound is rather reminiscent of the four in the bar of traditional jazz. This could possibly be put down to the influence of Mr McCartney [Senior], who led one of the top local jazz bands (Jim Mac’s Jazz Band) in the 1920s.

Modern music, however, is the group’s delight, and, as if to prove the point, John and Paul have written over fifty tunes, ballads and faster numbers, during the last three years. Some of these tunes are purely instrumental (such as “Looking Glass”, “Catswalk” and “Winston’s Walk”) and others were composed with the modern audience in mind (tunes like “Thinking Of Linking”, “The One After 909 ”, “Years Roll Along” and “Keep Looking That Way”).

The group also derive a great deal of pleasure from rearranging old favourites (“Ain’t She Sweet”, “You Were Meant For Me”, “Home”, “Moonglow”, “You Are My Sunshine” and others).

Now for a few details about the boys themselves. John, who leads the group, attends the College of Art, and, as well as being an accomplished guitarist and banjo player, he is an experienced cartoonist. His many interests include painting, the theatre, poetry, and, of course, singing. He is 19 years old and is a founder member of the group.

Paul is 18 years old and is reading English Literature at Liverpool University. He, like the other boys, plays more than one instrument – his specialities being the piano and drums, plus, of course...                          

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Evidently the manager of a nightclub the Beatles cheated on the Cavern in.

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This is an excerpt from Philip Norman's Paul McCartney book: a-hard-days-night-paul-5

Chapter 7 ‘Just who do you want to be, Paul? Tommy Steele?’

Paul’s instincts as a PR man were already beginning to show. Some time in April 1960, he drafted a letter to a local journalist named Low who’d requested details about the band with a view to giving them some publicity. Whether the fair copy was sent, or produced the desired article, isn’t known. But the page and a half, in Paul’s neat hand, reveals that they’re still without a drummer or a name, and still pushing the ‘rhythm is in the guitars’ line:

Dear Mr Low

I am sorry about the time I have taken to write to you, but I hope I have not left it too late. Here are some details about the group.

It consists of four boys–Paul McCartney (guitar), John Lennon (guitar), Stuart Sutcliffe (bass) and George Harrison (another guitar) and is called the... This line-up may at first seem dull but it must be appreciated that as the boys have above-average playing instrumental ability they achieve surprisingly varied effects. Their basic beat is the off-beat, but this has recently tended to be accompanied by a faint on- beat; thus the overall sound is rather reminiscent of the 4 in the bar beat of Traditional jazz. This could possibly be put down to the influence on the group of Mr McCartney, who led one of the top local jazz bands (Jim Mac’s Jazz Band) in the 1920’s.

Modern music is, however, the group’s delight and, as if to prove the point, John and Paul have written over 50 tunes, ballads and faster numbers, in the last three years.

John–described as their leader, despite coming second in the initial personnel list–is said to be an ‘accomplished guitarist and banjo-player and an ‘experienced cartoonist’. Of his 18-year-old self, Paul says he’s reading English at Liverpool University and that, as well as the guitar, his specialities are piano and drums.

That fib about Liverpool University reveals his sensitivity about being the group’s last remaining schoolboy. Although a year his junior, George Harrison had by now left Liverpool Institute to become an apprentice electrician at Blacklers, a city centre department store. Like John and Stu, George could stay out as late and get as drunk as he liked, whereas Paul always had to be thinking about the next morning’s class and revising for his GCE A-Levels in July.

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Hey @sigh butterfly does he have a first name so I can find him on findagrave.com?

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The only possible findagrave individual would be Din Lowe, 1890-1968. He may not even be entered, but for someone who is a complete mystery, this may be a bit of substance.

https://www.findagrave.com/mem.....97/din-low

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@Ubexter - I have access to some great search engines, but I'm not getting any hits on a Liverpool/London journalist named Mr. Low. Do you think Paul might have been goofing around and was referring to fellow Quarryman Duff (John Charles "Duff" Lowe)? 

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Seems more like an advertisement than a memorandum.

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@sigh butterfly No, I don't think it was a Quarrymen member. Like Lucy pointed out, in context Paul seems to genuinely sell the group for a performance. Considering he caters to "old folk music" I think Din Low, at 70 years old, would be a target audience.

They would definitely play When I'm Sixty-Four (original standard) to him.

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sigh butterfly said
This is an excerpt from Philip Norman's Paul McCartney book: a-hard-days-night-paul-5

Chapter 7 ‘Just who do you want to be, Paul? Tommy Steele?’

Paul’s instincts as a PR man were already beginning to show. Some time in April 1960, he drafted a letter to a local journalist named Low who’d requested details about the band with a view to giving them some publicity. Whether the fair copy was sent, or produced the desired article, isn’t known. But the page and a half, in Paul’s neat hand, reveals that they’re still without a drummer or a name, and still pushing the ‘rhythm is in the guitars’ line:

Dear Mr Low

I am sorry about the time I have taken to write to you, but I hope I have not left it too late. Here are some details about the group.

It consists of four boys–Paul McCartney (guitar), John Lennon (guitar), Stuart Sutcliffe (bass) and George Harrison (another guitar) and is called the... This line-up may at first seem dull but it must be appreciated that as the boys have above-average playing instrumental ability they achieve surprisingly varied effects. Their basic beat is the off-beat, but this has recently tended to be accompanied by a faint on- beat; thus the overall sound is rather reminiscent of the 4 in the bar beat of Traditional jazz. This could possibly be put down to the influence on the group of Mr McCartney, who led one of the top local jazz bands (Jim Mac’s Jazz Band) in the 1920’s.

Modern music is, however, the group’s delight and, as if to prove the point, John and Paul have written over 50 tunes, ballads and faster numbers, in the last three years.

John–described as their leader, despite coming second in the initial personnel list–is said to be an ‘accomplished guitarist and banjo-player and an ‘experienced cartoonist’. Of his 18-year-old self, Paul says he’s reading English at Liverpool University and that, as well as the guitar, his specialities are piano and drums.

That fib about Liverpool University reveals his sensitivity about being the group’s last remaining schoolboy. Although a year his junior, George Harrison had by now left Liverpool Institute to become an apprentice electrician at Blacklers, a city centre department store. Like John and Stu, George could stay out as late and get as drunk as he liked, whereas Paul always had to be thinking about the next morning’s class and revising for his GCE A-Levels in July.

  

I found this unclear.  First, was Paul quoting someone after his initial sentence in that letter?  Who was he quoting?  Second, the un-italicized paragraphs after the italicized text I assume was Philip Norman, correct?  Did his book present those un-italicized paragraphs immediately after the italicized portion, as it looks above?  If yes, why does he mention things that are not in Paul's italicized text (John "described as their leader" and Paul saying "he's reading English etc.")?

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Sea Belt said

sigh butterfly said

This is an excerpt from Philip Norman's Paul McCartney book: a-hard-days-night-paul-5

Chapter 7 ‘Just who do you want to be, Paul? Tommy Steele?’

Paul’s instincts as a PR man were already beginning to show. Some time in April 1960, he drafted a letter to a local journalist named Low who’d requested details about the band with a view to giving them some publicity. Whether the fair copy was sent, or produced the desired article, isn’t known. But the page and a half, in Paul’s neat hand, reveals that they’re still without a drummer or a name, and still pushing the ‘rhythm is in the guitars’ line:

Dear Mr Low

I am sorry about the time I have taken to write to you, but I hope I have not left it too late. Here are some details about the group.

It consists of four boys–Paul McCartney (guitar), John Lennon (guitar), Stuart Sutcliffe (bass) and George Harrison (another guitar) and is called the... This line-up may at first seem dull but it must be appreciated that as the boys have above-average playing instrumental ability they achieve surprisingly varied effects. Their basic beat is the off-beat, but this has recently tended to be accompanied by a faint on- beat; thus the overall sound is rather reminiscent of the 4 in the bar beat of Traditional jazz. This could possibly be put down to the influence on the group of Mr McCartney, who led one of the top local jazz bands (Jim Mac’s Jazz Band) in the 1920’s.

Modern music is, however, the group’s delight and, as if to prove the point, John and Paul have written over 50 tunes, ballads and faster numbers, in the last three years.

John–described as their leader, despite coming second in the initial personnel list–is said to be an ‘accomplished guitarist and banjo-player and an ‘experienced cartoonist’. Of his 18-year-old self, Paul says he’s reading English at Liverpool University and that, as well as the guitar, his specialities are piano and drums.

That fib about Liverpool University reveals his sensitivity about being the group’s last remaining schoolboy. Although a year his junior, George Harrison had by now left Liverpool Institute to become an apprentice electrician at Blacklers, a city centre department store. Like John and Stu, George could stay out as late and get as drunk as he liked, whereas Paul always had to be thinking about the next morning’s class and revising for his GCE A-Levels in July.

  

I found this unclear.  First, was Paul quoting someone after his initial sentence in that letter?  Who was he quoting?  Second, the un-italicized paragraphs after the italicized text I assume was Philip Norman, correct?  Did his book present those un-italicized paragraphs immediately after the italicized portion, as it looks above?  If yes, why does he mention things that are not in Paul's italicized text (John "described as their leader" and Paul saying "he's reading English etc.")?

  

Mr low is short for Mr Low Taper Fade and Mr Low Taper Fade is the nickname for popluar fortnite streamer Ninja so Paul is refering to Ninja.

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@Sea Belt I added the italics. The unedited letter is copied to the first post. If you are interested, here are the first 4 pages of Norman's Book/Chapter 7.

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Also @Ubexter, interestingly the term "dinlow" is a Liverpool slang word used to describe an idiotic person. The mystery deepens ahdn_paul_01

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Thanks @MrHorse -- it's all clear now!a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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This is as interesting as wanting to listen to Pinwheel Twist or Years Roll Along or Keep Looking That Way. So for a 70-year old decade the Beatles story during that is about as lost as London After Midnight (1927). 

 

Also @sigh butterfly AI imagined this version of Pinwheel Twist:

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I noticed this part of Philip Norman's book as reproduced by sigh butterfly (thanks!), referring to Sutcliffe's bass playing:

"Stu turned out to have no aptitude whatsoever for the instrument..."

"His lack of skills so embarrassed and that he'd stand with his back to the audience to hide his inept fingering often the others would secretly unplug his amp, leaving him mute."

First, I found a convincing refutation of this narrative -- https://daytrippin.com/2011/06.....-straight/

Second, as I recall, the "amp unplugging" incident was just once, done by Paul, not "often the others".  These kinds of sloppiness make me think he may not be worth reading, and make me wonder what other details in his book are more or less inaccurate.

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@Sea Belt Those are some good examples of exaggeration by the author. If I remember he was really biased and gossipy in his Lennon/Harrison books as well. I just wish he'd done some additional research into the identity of Mr. Low. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Rest in peace Ron Nasty. He would know exactly who Mr Low is and what color tie he was wearing when he read the letter. 

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Rest in peace Ron Nasty. He would know exactly who Mr Low is and what color tie he was wearing when he read the letter. 

  

Wait what?!?!a-hard-days-night-paul-4 How did he die?

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@MrHorse, start reading here https://www.beatlesbible.com/f.....9/#p384621 and post 1 of the thread.

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