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mja6758 said
I have to say I agree with mmm. I think the idea of Paul and Ringo hanging around until after George’s death to finish off Now And Then  and release it would be appalling. No matter how they dressed it up, were it to be the case, it would be the first time in their career that they released that one of them (George) had explicitly vetoed.

Though, you could argue the other three did it to Paul with Let It Be . They just didn’t let him hear it until it was too late though.

Never thought of Paul and Ringo finishing it off, i was thinking they would just release what had been finished before George decided enough was enough. 

I thought Paul heard the Let It Be album in advance but never raised his concerns until it was too late. That’s how i remember it from the book ‘You Never Give Me Your Money ‘. I don’t have the book to pull it out and check.

trcanberra said

IveJustSeenAFaceo said
The more I hear the idea, the more I love the collection of all the videos idea. Maybe coupled with the performance scenes from A Hard Day’s Night  and Help !. I really would love a Let It Be  DVD release though. Anyone know what’s stopping it?

No – we have had the speculation, like Paul not wanting the world to remember the fights – but they were all in Anthology anyway, so I’m not sure it’s that.

I put another Paul quote in a thread here which mentioned how long Rockshow took to get an issue; where he says they are not running a shop and things will get released when he feels it is the right time artistically – so maybe that is it – we are waiting for some sort of planetary conjunction or whatever Apple use to plan their stuff.  They certainly don’t seem to have any feel or care for what the remaining fans want.

 

They go by drawing from a hat, they put in 4 pieces of paper, all blank, and then pull one out, if it comes out with writing on it they think about doing something. 

IveJustSeenAFaceo said

meanmistermustard said
They go by drawing from a hat, they put in 4 pieces of paper, all blank, and then pull one out, if it comes out with writing on it they think about doing something. 

That sounds accurate, except I’m pretty sure it’s more than 4 pieces of paper. If it was only 4, they would put something out every so often. I’d bet it’s more of a 1/154 chance. 

 

 

All four pieces are blank, Apple leave nothing to chance, they are very exhaustive in their efforts to release nothing.

From wiki

In March 1995, the three surviving Beatles began work on “Now And Then ” by recording a rough backing track that was to be used as an overdub. However, after only two days of recording, all work on the song ceased and plans for a third reunion single were scrapped permanently.

According to McCartney, George Harrison  “didn’t want to do it,” possibly because new verses would have had to be written. Producer Jeff Lynne reported that “It was one day—one afternoon, really—messing with it. The song had a chorus but is almost totally lacking in verses. We did the backing track, a rough go that we really didn’t finish.” An additional factor behind scrapping the song was a technical defect in the original recording.

which uses an article in The Express newspaper which adds 

Those who’ve heard it say it’s like a bit of a verse and a chorus, very skeletal,” said one.

“George just didn’t want to rework it because it’s not a matter of putting some vocals, or a bit of bass and drums to finish it. With this, you have to really build the song. The genius of The Beatles was predicated upon Lennon and McCartney. What was normal in the early days at least was that John would come in with a fragment and Paul would turn it into a hit – or vice versa.

(which reminds me of Free As A Bird ).

The Beatles always worked on all four agreeing and here we have George very clearly saying no so why should this be any different, why would Olivia go against that? (which opens up a can of worms regarding the original 1994/95 reunion and whether Yoko should have approved it).

Money-wise. if needed, Olivia could sanction Let It Be or any other project, be it Beatles or solo-George (tho that would probably make less), rake it in and live happily for the rest of her life (tho im sure the Living In The Material World project would have given her some financial aide on top of Beatles and non-Beatles royalties).

As for the fans, the reunion happened in 1995 & 1996 for the fans (I was an uber-excited 14 year old about it all, i have tons of press-clippings from the time, i remember watching the 30 minute ITV documentary about the group which at the end premiered Free As A Bird and being so thrilled, and then the 5 minute showing of Real Love months later. I played FAAB & RL over and over).

Why should we get another, the whole occassion would be so heavily diluted because it’s been done.  Welding on new bits of drum, bass, percussion, keyboards etc over an unfinished demo of John’s that George vetoed because it couldn’t be saved is where I say “just leave it” (considering the reports of how the song was left new parts would have to be added).

But what about those who missed out on that, the new fans? Well, what about those fans in 60 years time, 100 years time, who will miss out on reunion #2? Are Apple and the Beatles kids to sanction a reunion stitched together from the all over the place to give them that every 20 years until the end of time? It becomes ridiculous, never mind treating the 1960’s Beatles like shit and cheapening their legacy. The Beatles were always about moving on, never doing the same thing twice, never putting out crap for the sake of it.

At some point fans have to move on, accept its over, there is no getting back together again, no last last hurrah, no one more new song.

Thats where i sit. If folk disagree then fair enough, i respect that, i don’t agree but i respect it. Over this, whobeatle, we will never agree.