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The Rutles (Band)
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I was surprised to see that there was no thread(at least that I could find) of the Rutles as a band.  After recently watching the 2 movies, I was surprised to see that their music was pretty decent for a parody band.

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@Ahhh Girl said
A related thread. All You Need Is Cash https://www.beatlesbible.com/f.....-cash/  

I made this thread in order to talk about the music and the band as opposed to the two mockumentaries themselves. 

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Yay! Are we allowed tea on the thread? 

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SgtPeppersBulldog said
Yay! Are we allowed tea on the thread?   

The mods aren't going to stop you. We even may join you from time-to-time. Make sure you have Tetley on hand for mmm.

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You can't imagine how it felt to see the original mockumentary on TV in 1978, in those pre-internet, pre-VCR, pre-cable days if you missed it, you missed it forever! I was lucky enough to catch it and have been a fan ever since. As a Beatles fan who knew just enough of the history to get the jokes, it felt like I'd stumbled onto the coolest in-joke in history.

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I found out that Ollie Halsall (The singing voice of Dirk McQuickly) died 4 years prior to the reuniting of the band and the release of Archaeology. All of his contributions to Archaeology were things that had already been recorded from sessions for the first album. I guess that explains why Nasty sings some of the Dirk songs like Major Happy's......Band, and Back In '64.

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Oh great now I have 'Ouch!' stuck in my head 

 

For a fictional band they did have some great songs, I really like 'I Must Be In Love'

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If you didn't know already, Ricky Fataar (who plays Stig O'Hara) worked with the Beach Boys during the early seventies, and before that, was in a band with his brothers called The Flame(s). They're quite a good band, despite most of their songs being covers. Here are some of my favorites, they kinda sound Rutles-esque to me.

Cover of Roy Orbison's "Oh, Pretty Woman ". 

And a cover of  "Eight Days A Week " by you know who.

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@SgtPeppersBulldog said
Yay! Are we allowed tea on the thread?   

Lots of tea... Indian tea. And biscuits! ahdn_george_08

(Love that scene, by the way) 

Their music is pretty good for a parody band. -- I mean, what am I saying? Their music's great, and that other band, the one that ripped them off, is surprisingly good too. The Beetles, was it? ahdn_george_01

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William Shears Campbell said
I found out that Ollie Halsall (The singing voice of Dirk McQuickly) died 4 years prior to the reuniting of the band and the release of Archaeology. All of his contributions to Archaeology were things that had already been recorded from sessions for the first album. I guess that explains why Nasty sings some of the Dirk songs like Major Happy's......Band, and Back In '64.  

More info on the band members. Ollie Halsall and John Halsey (who plays Barry Wom) both came from a late sixties British mod group called Timebox.  The group changed it's name to Patto in the early seventies and later split up. Halsall joined another group called Boxer before coming into the Rutles project.

https://youtu.be/_ugIKnlRjrw

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And of course, Neil Innes (who plays Ron Nasty) comes from The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band, who performed Death Cab For Cutie in the Magical Mystery Tour film. Around about the same time, the Bonzos were also appearing and performing on the sketch series Do Not Adjust Your Set, which starred future Monty Python members Michael Palin, Terry Jones and Eric Idle. Innes attributed several ideas to Monty Python's Flying Circus, and a made a few cameos in the show. He went on to help Idle write the Rutland Weekend Television series, where The Rutles sketches originated.

It's a good thing Nasty got a nose job before he did anything else.

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I have been watching Rutland Weekend Television all day (both series are on YT, and I definitely recommend watching them a-hard-days-night-paul-7). I thought I'd share these:

George on the Rutland Weekend Television Christmas Special.

The original Rutles sketch, also from RWT.

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I love the Rutles music, some of the best style parody around, only Weird Al comes close. Eric Idle says in his commentary to the Rutles DVD that something about Innes' work actually improves your understanding of Beatles music as well as being hilarious and entertaining. I particularly love the deliberately lopsided stereo mixes like the early stereo mixes of Beatles albums, the recording details are just as great as the pastiches.

I can't forgive ATV [not Apple] for taking those songs off him.

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Apple had nothing to do with Innes losing a big chunk of the publishing, @ewe2.

That was Northern Songs, who were owned by ATV Music by that time.

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One thing I've been admiring about the Rutles lately, is how their songs are meant to be making fun of elements of certain Beatles songs, but out of context some of their songs could be easily taken as real and serious songs. Songs like Number One, I Must Be In Love, Another Day , Lets Be Natural, Lonely-Phobia, Now She's Left You, Love You, etc sound like pretty normal songs taken out of the context of being a Beatles parody.

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I might listen to some Rutles myself, are they more of a flat out parody like Weird Al or do they make their own music but base themselves of The Beatles, similar to, at least to a certain extent, The Wiggles.

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@Dark Overlord said
I might listen to some Rutles myself, are they more of a flat out parody like Weird Al or do they make their own music but base themselves of The Beatles, similar to, at least to a certain extent, The Wiggles.  

Their music is not direct Beatles parodies, but rather songs that make fun of the style of one or two popular Beatles songs.

Some songs are close Beatles parodies, but some are just songs that sound like they could be Beatles songs but aren't. (Similar to that one song, "Lies"). If you are in need of more Beatles music, I really do highly recommend them. Their music is a bit goofy with their Beatles references, but it's not like "Weird Al" where it's all jokes. It almost is like a band that was just a little bit too influenced by the Beatles's music.

Here's their YouTube topic channel which appears to have all of their 2 albums as well as their live album.

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I might listen to some Rutles myself, are they more of a flat out parody like Weird Al or do they make their own music but base themselves of The Beatles, similar to, at least to a certain extent, The Wiggles.  

There's a form of parody that Weird Al also does (and I think they're actually better than his straight parodies, eg Mission Statement is a great style parody of Crosby Stills and Nash), called style parody where you take similar musical motifs from your source and weave them into new songs, often mimicking the recording style as well. This is basically what Neil Innes is doing with the Rutles.

Most songs aren't complete simple parody but include style elements from several Beatles songs and recordings. For instance Love Life basically parodies All You Need Is Love , even to the extent of the orchestra quoting motifs from other songs, but it goes further by hints at Hey Jude with the long fadeout and quoting Hold My Hand instead of She Loves You . And the recording style closely mimics both songs.

And because I can't resist it, here is a style parody of Lennon from a completely different quarter to give you some idea of how tempting it is for songwriters:

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These songs are parody, but they also happen to be pretty damned good songs, songs that stick in your head after you hear them. Definitely worth hearing, and totally worth watching as All You Need Is Cash is available on youtube.

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