3.17pm
19 September 2010
I’m probably in a small small minority here, but I’ve always found that “Sounds like the Beatles” to be the cardinal sin of music. It shows one of two things: a) They don’t have have anything about them that is unique or different, or b) They’re too insecure to show their real side, and I can’t stand inauthentic music. Of course, there are exceptions.
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4.25pm
12 April 2012
Ben Ramon I completly agree with the things you said about Come And Get It , I think Paul’s demo could have been easily releeased as a solo single, the recording is very good. It would be nice on Abbey Road instead of I Want You (the song is not bad, but it sounds much like plastic ono band for me). They could have taken paul’s demo, make a completly new recording or (my favourite version, because paul plays very well all instruments on Come And Get It ) overdub harmony and backing vocals by john and george onto paul’s demo.
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7.44pm
10 August 2011
Will have to revisit Emmitt Rhodes.
Mr Sun King CT said, “I’ve always found that “Sounds like the Beatles” to be the cardinal sin of music.”
I thinkthat’s extreme.
– Most artists – including the Beatles – start off by imitating (“nicking” as John and Paul would say). After all, “imitation is the most sincere form of flattery)
– If you like a style, what’s wrong with composing in that style?
The real issue is that if you formally state that you want to sound like the Beatles, you’re immediately setting a very high bar for yourself and you set yourself up for being unfavorably compared.
Better to let others say that you have a Beatle sound…
But anyone stating that they’d like to sound like the Beatles is simply saying that they have the same tastes as the members of this Forum. What’s wrong with that, I’d like to know!
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8.04pm
1 December 2009
mr. Sun king coming together said
I’m probably in a small small minority here, but I’ve always found that “Sounds like the Beatles” to be the cardinal sin of music. It shows one of two things: a) They don’t have have anything about them that is unique or different, or b) They’re too insecure to show their real side, and I can’t stand inauthentic music. Of course, there are exceptions.
Don’t you think that it might also just show that they really, really like the Beatles? (y’know, like all of us?)
Me, personally I’d LOVE to have the talent to create an original Beatles soundalike! (Just for my own satisfaction, I mean, not with expectation of financial gain – I can see where that might make a difference.)
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mr. Sun king coming together said
I’m probably in a small small minority here, but I’ve always found that “Sounds like the Beatles” to be the cardinal sin of music. It shows one of two things: a) They don’t have have anything about them that is unique or different, or b) They’re too insecure to show their real side, and I can’t stand inauthentic music. Of course, there are exceptions.
“Sounds like the Beatles” to me means bright, jangly guitars, a tight rhythm section, heavy use of vocal harmonies and perhaps a somewhat psychedelic or surreal atmosphere, lyrically or musically. Tons of bands fulfill those criteria. You can’t realistically expect every single band to create its own absolutely unique sound! Also, I guess you mean “inauthentic” as in they don’t necessarily write about what they are really feeling, but the Beatles did that all the time. John and Paul were masters of using lyrics as sleight of hand to obscure their emotions and opinions, and don’t even get started on how much they hid their “real side” in interviews.
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10.48pm
19 September 2010
Being a fan of them doesn’t mean you must be a copycat. That’s why I’m not a huge Oasis fan – they sound to genericly copycat. And Ben, I don’t think it’s too much to expect unique styles by bands – because plenty of bands do it. As I said, I knew I’d be in the minority, but I think it crosses the line between homage and tasteless.
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I see your point with Oasis, because they went out of their way to market themselves as “the next Beatles” in the most pompous and pretentious possible way, not to mention their comparable lack of longevity and talent.
Bands incorporate influences and predecessors into their sound. Obviously unique genres can be heard in bands, but they are usually a mash-up of lots of other genres rather than something totally original and groundbreaking. I would have thought a list of favourite artists would be extremely limited if you consider borrowing sounds to be inauthentic.
I’m hard pressed to think of a band or artist which invented a totally new style with no ties to previous eras- the Ramones, perhaps?
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11.34am
13 July 2012
Well I think Electric Light Orchestra is fairly similar, and one of their songs seems to get mistaken as being the Beatles often….even if you don’t think so, ELO is a fantastic band!
“ELO’s Showdown was a favourite song of John Lennon. Lennon remarked that ELO were the “Sons of the Beatles”. Ringo Starr and George Harrison made frequent guest appearances on ELO albums. As many know, Lynne was in the Travelin’ Wilburys with Harrison.”
2.09pm
19 September 2010
My last post was a convoluted mess. Ben – I don’t consider an unique sound to be a total new genre per say. Just someone who takes say, folk rock, and deviates significantly from the Dylan/Young/Browne model of folk rock. City and Colour being my example. I think if your band has a sound that makes people think you are the Beatles (or a band that sounds very similar to them), that’s a little too similar for my tastes.
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6.57am
22 October 2012
There is a group called The Redwalls who are the closest thing I have heard to having a beatle sound. You can go to thier website and hear some of thier songs. The one that has sort of an early Beatle quality is Teach you about Rock n Roll. Are there any other ones out there. Sorry but I don’t know how to post a link.
4.14pm
18 October 2012
A band called Tame Impala definitely take influence from the Revolver era of The Beatles. Check out a guy called Brendan Benson, he has the beatle-esque songwriting thing going on, very cool. Here’s a song by him.
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3.29pm
3 October 2012
I don’t think any group has ever had a ‘Beatle sound’, as only the Beatles had this, and on every album they stretched the boundries of what their ‘sound’ was…The Beatles were the prototype for the modern rock group, and even what some call ‘post rock’ music’.
The music industry and certain critics sometimes try to us the ‘Beatle-like’ cliche, but they have no clue.
3.58pm
Reviewers
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1 May 2011
What is a beatle sound? Are we talking about the innocent pop sound of tracks like From Me To You and She Loves You ; the hypnotic sound of Tomorrow Never Knows and Rain ; the all out sound of Helter Skelter ; the off the scale weirdness of Revolution 9 ?
One of the things with the beatles is its very hard to put them in a bracket or lump them in with one particular genre. They tried everything and generally did it very well. Something most bands are unwilling to do. Plus everything the beatles did has been utilised by other artists. Oasis borrowed their vocal style from Rain . The drums in TNK were taken by the Chemical Brothers (to name just one who did so). And Ive Got A Feeling could be played on the radio alongside many of todays bands and sound not a day older.
Its why many folks are finding the beatles in their teens and picking up at least some of their music. Somehow most of their output in the 60’s hasnt aged.
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9.59pm
3 October 2012
meanmistermustard
Its why many folks are finding the Beatles in their teens and picking up at least some of their music. Somehow most of their output in the 60’s hasnt aged.
What you say is very true, but unfortunately I have a darker view of things.
What we are witnessing today is a dark age of music…There might be no further innovations in music, at least as we know it.
The middle part of the 20th Century saw great advancement in European classical music, also in the music we now think of as jazz, and certainly in popular music, which would include rock & roll and rock…Probably the last innovative period would be the 90s, with the advent of grunge, post-rock minimalist styles a la Stereolab. and some electronic dance music…Unfortunately, in this millenium, we see a wasteland as far as new ideas go, as these musics are all increasingly divorced from any grass roots origin, and are simply a corporate product…You will still witness a popularity of folk forms, i.e. blues, bluegrass, Celtic music, various European, African or Asian folk based forms…But the near future looks very bleak as far as any innovation coming from Western sources.
Because the Beatles were kind of a high point in this golden age of modern popular music, and as their music does have a timeless quality, it will be picked up on by younger musicians, because they have few new ideas of their own and today’s mindset is different….This may sound harsh, as young artists always learn by imitation, but today we seem to hear imitators imitating other imitators and so forth.
The advent of the Beatles video game, or whatever it is, signals the end of an age in music…In short, most people no longer care about music,because of the power of mind control in the video and digital forms.
I hope I am completely wrong, but unfortunately I don’t think so.
10.50pm
Reviewers
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1 May 2011
I hold the opinion something will break at some point in regards to where popular music is as it has to. I’ll probably get slated for writing this but whilst there are bands out there doing great work in general the commercial scene sucks big time being filled with talentless hacks marketed by conglomerates only intent on making a quick buck.
The songwriting abysmal, the music dull to the point of wanting to jump into passing traffic just to feel something remotely alive.
Having read what music was like in the 3 or 4 years before the beatles exploded, and heard some of it, i feel that is where we are now. Good music played by great bands buried in clubs and gigs and occasionally seeping out whilst tripe is shoveled out by companies and managers who think they know what is good and most youngsters gobble it up whilst the media say its great. Was listening to the start of a JLS song on the radio and good god it was embarrassing (i say start because it was quickly turned off). One Direction are praised but why i dont know as its totally and utterly dreadful.
And im perfectly aware the 60’s wasnt filled with 100% excellent music all the time, there was crap in the charts the same time as the beatles, the who, the stones and all the others were kicking about.
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10.56pm
1 November 2012
My comment may not fit this topic for two reasons:
1) it’s an old band, not from “today”
2) it has more of a “McCartney sound” than a “Beatles sound” perhaps.
Anyway, I’ve always thought that Reminiscing by Little River Band sounds very McCartneyish, and could have been either a McCartney tune or a Beatles tune written and sung by McCartney.
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2.46am
1 November 2012
4.50am
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17 December 2012
A few that spring to mind —
The Knickerbockers’ biggest hit, Lies, which reached No. 20 on the Billboard chart in 1966. A remarkable pastiche that has cropped on many Beatles bootlegs over the years.
Tears for Fears’ 1989 worldwide Top 10 hit, Sowing the Seeds of Love.
Julian Lennon’s Saltwater from 1991. (An early, unreleased version of which, included some George Harrison guitar work — which later influenced Steve Hunter’s final solo for the song).
I’ll probably think of more.
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9.35am
21 November 2012
Recently I heard a song on the radio, and it sounded like it could’ve been on Revolver . I haven’t figured out what it is yet, but I will!
It was a bit trippy and the singer sounded like how John sounds on I’m Only Sleeping .
Also, a lot of Oasis’ stuff sounds Beatley, but that’s probably because they were obsessed with them and tried to be like them (and failed miserably)
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