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Sir George Martin CBE RIP
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This is what I posted at Facebook:

Still having a hard time finding the right words to encapsulate this tremendous loss. It's So Hard to accept that so many of the key figures in the Beatle family, in this world-changing moment in history, have gone. Sir George was not just a producer. He was an innovator, a mentor, a friend, a father figure, an inspiration, a giant. And the most deserving of the title, the 5th Beatle.

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I don't think it's that sad -- he lived a long and full, productive life.  We should all be so lucky to live to 90 with such a life of wonderful accomplishments and family & friends.  George was a true gentleman, modest about his genius and never accruing the type of seamy underside so many in the world of popular music do.

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I don't think it's that sad -- he lived a long and full, productive life.  We should all be so lucky to live to 90 with such a life of wonderful accomplishments and family & friends.  George was a true gentleman, modest about his genius and never accruing the type of seamy underside so many in the world of popular music do.

I must admit I'm not depressed about it - but for me there is always a tinge of sadness when someone who gave so much joy dies - no matter what age.

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A round-up of some yesterday's tributes.

Martin Lewis (British-born, Hollywood-based humorist, commentator, producer and radio host) who worked with Sir George over the years wrote of his memories of him in a piece for Huffington Post.

Beatles Examiner rounded some of many tributes paid by friends and celebrities.

Forum member @DrBeatle posted this on his blog.

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I don't think it's that sad -- he lived a long and full, productive life.  We should all be so lucky to live to 90 with such a life of wonderful accomplishments and family & friends.  

It isn't particularly tragic, but knowing yet another Beatles person won't be around anymore is a little bit of a downer. a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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I agree. It's not the kind of sadness you feel when someone goes before their time, but it's still sad. Because it's yet another Beatles person to leave us, and a wonderful human being at that. We've come one more step closer to a world in which the Beatles are just a memory. It may seem like a weird sentiment, but as long as people who were right there when it happened are still alive, the saga isn't really over. That's how I see it, anyway. When there's nobody left to tell us first-hand how it was then, that's when the Beatles truly are history.

I don't know if I'm making any sense... a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Makes perfect sense to me. a-hard-days-night-george-9 

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I agree. It's not the kind of sadness you feel when someone goes before their time, but it's still sad. Because it's yet another Beatles person to leave us, and a wonderful human being at that. We've come one more step closer to a world in which the Beatles are just a memory. It may seem like a weird sentiment, but as long as people who were right there when it happened are still alive, the saga isn't really over. That's how I see it, anyway. When there's nobody left to tell us first-hand how it was then, that's when the Beatles truly are history.

I don't know if I'm making any sense... a-hard-days-night-paul-7

That is a saddening truth. The fact that I'm going to be alive to witness it is even more saddening

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True, true. I was just thinking that this morning. I've been lucky enough to share a planet with all four Beatles, and unless I go before my time, I'll also be an inhabitant of Earth when we say farewell to Ringo and Paul. There's hardly anyone left now. It's a gut wrenching feeling to know it's a matter of time before... 

Let's hope the remaining Beatle people stay with us for many years to come. 

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I try not to dwell on it too much. a-hard-days-night-ringo-13 

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At least they don't live forever.

 

Edit: Though with enough euphemisms, no one ever really "dies" a-hard-days-night-paul-3

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An article from Yahoo remembering an interview George M gave to Mark Allen in 2007 where George revealed his one regret with the Beatles:

My only regret with the Beatles is that I was wrongly advised and signed away my royalties to their records — about half a penny per title but, with them, that would have been an enormous amount. But I’ve got all the money I could want. People think I’m a multimillionaire and I’m not.

“I tend to look at people and think, ‘Are you a good human being?’ That’s what impresses me most rather than what they’ve achieved.

“We’re a bit short on people like that at the moment – people who do good things and spread love for each other.”

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The producer also shared anecdotes about The Beatles after he finished working with the group, as the band’s members all stayed in touch with him after they disbanded.

Recalling late Beatle George Harrison ’s contradictions, the producer told how the guitarist turned up to see him after he was recovering from an ear operation. He explained George pulled up in a £660,000 McLaren F1 – to give him a statue of Ganesha the Hindu elephant god.

George added about repaying the visit: “I went to see George at his home in Henley recently and he brought out this bottle of Château Lafite 1990 – £1,000 a bottle. I said, ‘George you need a special occasion for this’, and he said, ‘This is the special occasion. What else do I do with my money?’”

Writer Mark noticed at the end of their chat a striking mirror in the producer’s home.

When he looked closer he saw its frame was inscribed with a wind instrument floating about three beetles – representing the three members of The Beatles who were still alive when the mirror was made, following the murder of John Lennon in 1980.

Below the insects was carved one of George’s favourite phrases: ‘Amore Solum Opus Est’: ‘All You Need Is Love

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I didn't mean to say there's no sadness in anyone we love parting; I guess I was just accenting one half of the mystery, and in so doing gave the impression the half is the whole... 

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I didn't know much about the fifth Beatle--only that he was their producer. I didn't realize he signed them from the beginning until yesterday. I've never really thought about him much besides enjoying the piece of information and admiring him for being an arranger. Paul said some touching things on Facebook about him and there's a great picture of George from 2002 sitting next to John's statue on a bench. 

Producers and other "music people" that work behind the scenes aren't necessarily as grieving a loss as the ones who get all the attention because we tend to focus on them the most. But it is undeniable that this man carried out spectacular things that made their songs. The Beatles didn't know how to arrange or anything about orchestration. That's what producing is about and it's what made those songs what they are. The person who finished those songs is gone, so in many ways it can be interpreted as the end of an era of some sort. He was the Beatles' mentor, their guide and teacher. They're officially on their own. That's why I think some are sad. But it's great that we can appreciate this man's contribution to the music industry and the best band in history. 

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I agree. It's not the kind of sadness you feel when someone goes before their time, but it's still sad. Because it's yet another Beatles person to leave us, and a wonderful human being at that. We've come one more step closer to a world in which the Beatles are just a memory. It may seem like a weird sentiment, but as long as people who were right there when it happened are still alive, the saga isn't really over. That's how I see it, anyway. When there's nobody left to tell us first-hand how it was then, that's when the Beatles truly are history.

I don't know if I'm making any sense... a-hard-days-night-paul-7

It's a horrid thought that out of John, Paul, George, Ringo, Neil, Brian, Mal and George M we now only have Paul and Ringo with us. I can't get my head around the idea of there not being any of the 8 alive, no idea what I will do when the inevitable happens. Part of me thinks take the day out and just watch the news, the other hopes I'm doing something, anything, just to get thru the day.a-hard-days-night-paul-7 

Maybe harsh to say but whilst George M's passing is sad it isn't and wont be the same as when Paul and Ringo do.

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He was a great influence for everyone who worked with him and those that were inspired by his work (including me). When I was starting with The Beatles discography and reading their history, I watched the Anthology documentary, and by the end of it, I learned how important he was in not only giving a chance to The Beatles, but shaping them musically as well. He turned out to be my first inspiration in the world of audio engineering, arranger, composer, producer, etc. We will all miss him.

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meanmistermustard said 

Maybe harsh to say but whilst George M's passing is sad it isn't and wont be the same as when Paul and Ringo do.

I think we can all agree. I just can't think about it, honestly... it frightens the living daylights out of me to imagine a world in which the Beatles are all a thing of the past. paul-mccartney 

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meanmistermustard said 

Maybe harsh to say but whilst George M's passing is sad it isn't and wont be the same as when Paul and Ringo do.

I think we can all agree. I just can't think about it, honestly... it frightens the living daylights out of me to imagine a world in which the Beatles are all a thing of the past. paul-mccartney 

But The Beatles are already a thing of the past

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Having thought about it for a while, I think Sir George demonstrated what a producer is all about. He may not have invented the concept, but he certainly revolutionised it in music industry terms. From the start he understood what it was like to be musically uneducated, having taught himself piano, and fortunately had an ordinary upbringing despite the suggestion otherwise (an important point in England), and never forgot it when he did get classically trained. So with that bridge of understanding and his open engagement with artists, it's no wonder he did well. I think one of the key requirements of a producer is to be right. Being right means success for a producer: you won't get far by picking the wrong artist, the wrong song, the wrong treatment. That takes irreplaceable instinct, no matter how much experience you get. Sir George was right most of the time. And he was right in a technological era that made being right more difficult than for his US counterparts.

He did it by stages: picking good songs and the combination of good artists at first. He wasn't afraid to go his own way which is partly why he got to take over Parlophone. But he didn't stop there, although he could have stuck to management. His work with the Goons wasn't just an important signal to the Beatles later, it showed his versatility as a producer in general. As fun as the results were, producing the Goons was like herding cats, particularly Milligan even if they were friends. Then the Beatles came along, and it's funny that few tributes are aware of how a quid pro quo obligated George to take them on initially, according to Lewisohn. But it got their foot in the door and his producer instincts kicked in thankfully. Thanks to the Beatles, George was able to think about going independent himself, which he subsequently did. But the experience showed the world what a great producer is and how they get there.

Again, the tributes all said no one ever had an issue with him, but that's not entirely true is it. Geoff Emerick, whether by ambition or jealousy, had a few snarky things to say about George; the one I remember particularly is the claim that 'he wanted them (the Beatles) all to himself although he wasn't always there". I'm sure there were others, but everyone no matter how good or great collects naysayers. Emerick's comments baffle me, though. As if he didn't know that George was running a label AND fighting upper EMI bureaucracy AND producing the Beatles. As if he didn't realize that George trusted him to get the job maybe 70% done and could then concentrate on the crucial 30%. A mystery for me.

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Maybe harsh to say but whilst George M's passing is sad it isn't and wont be the same as when Paul and Ringo do.

 

To that, I agree. I will be utterly devastated when the last remaining Beatle dies...

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