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Brian Epstein appreciation thread (RIP Brian)
3 February 2015
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Also, the lineup for the Concert for Eppy has been announced:

One part of the concert will feature musicians and performers from the Mersey Beat era denoting “The Spirit of The Cavern.” These will include Cy Tucker, Faron of Faron's Flamingos, Beryl Marsden, Ray Ennis, Karl Terry, Billy Kinsley and Tony Crane, who will pay tribute to the music that was featured on the famous Cavern stage during Brian Epstein's life.

Tucker's band, Cy and the Cimmerons, played at the Litherland Town Hall in Liverpool on Dec. 27, 1960 on a bill with the Beatles, who were described as “Direct From Hamburg.” Billy Kinsley and Tony Crane were in the Merseybeats. Ray Ennis was vocalist and lead guitarist with the Swinging Blue Jeans. Karl Terry was a member of Karl Terry and the Cruisers. And Beryl Marsden toured with the Beatles on their last UK tour in 1964. The evening will also feature music by more recent musical talent, called “The Legacy of the Cavern,” with performances from including the MonaLisa Twins, Millie Courtney and Ian Prowse.

More at The Examiner.

[x-posted to the news thread]

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Epstein did a great job with The Beatles. They worked tirelessly and travelled the world under his guidance and the exposure they enjoyed due to his endeavours was incredible.

He was the right man at the right time and while we can speculate endlessly on what might have been if he had lived, we can be thankful that he was present at the key moment for the band, and what a fine job he did.

We can nitpick about details here and there, but as has been said already, this was largely uncharted territory. He always seemed to me to be the perfect fit for the band; he was articulate, smart and quite different in appearance, but he also carried enough authority for the boys to respect him and comply with his wishes.

He had a patrician air about him which made adults take him seriously - and this forced them to take the band more seriously. If this well-groomed gentleman thought that The Beatles were a credible and serious musical outfit, well maybe they were.

I'm delighted that there is going to be a statue of him in Liverpool. He played a very important part in giving The Beatles to the world.

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@Hildy, what was the impression of Brian at the time? Would the average fan have known about him or cared?

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@Hildy, what was the impression of Brian at the time? Would the average fan have known about him or care?

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Brian Epstein, being well-spoken, not heavily accented, and respectably suited and booted, impressed our parents. It's maybe over-stretching it to say that he was thought to be some kind of guru, but it's probably fair to say that people saw him as a together guy who knew what he was doing.

The one thing my dad said to me about the Beatles completely unprovoked was that he had heard the band were about to go on the Ed Sullivan show in America. He told me that this was a very big deal indeed and of course this implied that Epstein was providing excellent management. We know now that there was some luck involved, but ahead of the event, my dad saw this as a fantastic opportunity for the band to become even bigger - they were already huge - and so it turned out.

I think most people saw Epstein as the brains behind the operation, and so he was generally well thought of and respected - and even admired.

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I should add a little more to my previous post regarding fan perspective. Basically, if Brian was good enough for John, Paul, George and Ringo, he was good enough for us. 

If they liked him, we did too.

I think there were older people who thought that if Epstein was able to earn John Lennon 's respect, and if he was able to manage such a complex and strong character while taking the band to even greater heights, he must be a good and able manager.

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A plaque honoring Brian was unveiled at his childhood home by the woman spearheading the effort and Julia , John's half-sister.

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A plaque honoring Brian was unveiled at his childhood home by the woman spearheading the effort and Julia , John's half-sister.

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@parlance, would you x-post this to the things to see in Liverpool thread? It will be helpful for me to have it there :-)

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I just read in the Liddypool book (by David Bedford) that Brian had a two year courtship with a lady named Sonia Seligson. Do any of you know much about this relationship?

EDIT: I see that it is covered in Tune In.

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New York Times article on Brian: The Fifth Man.

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 Brian was #5 and when he died, like John said, they went to pieces. "We broke up then." 

Had he lived, things would have stayed on course and I imagine the whole show would have been much, much better for everyone.

 There were people quite sure he had been killed, by substitution of stronger pills than he was known to take. This has to be mentioned because he was the key, the linchpin of the Beatles, and once he was out of the way...

 Really the worst thing ever happened in BeatleWorld was the death of Brian. He was just an ordinary guy, like the rest of them, when it all started, and he was horrified at what he learned as they got bigger and bigger, and if he committed suicide or just mistakenly took too many tablets... then I have no idea why. Can't see him deserting his friends like that.

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I don't think this is mentioned on the forum yet.

Nicholas Hoult & Jack O’Connell Circle Brian Epstein-John Lennon Pic ‘A Life In The Day’

Nicholas Hoult and Jack O’Connell are circling A Life In The Day, the Tony Gittelson script about the life of Brian Epstein, who discovered and managed the Beatles from 1961-1967, before he died of a drug overdose at 32. Justin Chadwick (Tulip Fever) is in talks to direct the project, which David Permut will produce through his Permut Presentations banner along with Dylan Sellers’ Rivers Edge Films.

Rivers Edge has a strategic partnership with Kevin Frakes’ Palmstar Media that has Palmstar funding Sellers’ overhead, production and development costs. The two companies are committed to jointly produce four to five films with budgets between $20 million-$40 million.

This is still a fluid situation with no deals set, but if it all comes together, Hoult would play the flamboyant and gay Epstein, with O’Connell the brilliant but troubled John Lennon . The intense relationship between the two men has been the subject of much debate and analysis over the years. As recently as this week, Lennon’s widow Yoko Ono mused about the possibility that Epstein and Lennon had sex with each other. She was quoted in the Daily Beast as saying, “It was almost a love affair, but not quite. It was never consummated. But it was a pretty intense relationship.”

Chadwick, coming off the Weinstein Company period drama Tulip Fever — which also stars O’Connell — has a number of projects he’s choosing from with A Life In The Day believed to be near the top of the list for what would be his next project.

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EDIT: This story has been around since 2009 http://www.theguardian.com/fil.....ein-biopic

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Ron Nasty and I went by 24 Chapel Street today. Brian moved here in January 1965. He died in the house in August 1967.

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Ahhh Girl said
Ron Nasty and I went by 24 Chapel Street today. Brian moved here in January 1965. He died in the house in August 1967.
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It seems that that bicycle's been there since that day

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I have a lot of respect for Brian Epstein. He wasn't content to just work for the family business and he wanted to do something for himself. He took a huge risk with the Beatles but it paid off and he was able to sign other bands from Liverpool as well as opening up his own club. R.I.P Brian Epstein. 

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I don't know why it took so long for this to dawn on me.

Brian ran the store in Liverpool on Whitechapel Street. Then, when he moved to London, he bought a house on Chapel Street.

I wonder if he looked at several homes before deciding on that one in London. I wonder if he chose that house since it was on Chapel Street. I wonder if there was any psychological meaning behind the word Chapel for Brian.

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Remembering Brian on the date of his birth. Thanks for everything, Brian. apple01heart

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The world thanks you, Brian.

You'd be so proud of Paul and Ringo now.

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