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Miscellaneous questions about the Beatles
10 September 2014
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note: meanmistermustard moved this post from its own thread to here as it relates to the question asked by StrawberryFieldsForever (post #86) and the subsequent answers in posts 87, 899091 98. Ahhh Girl posted an alternate article on the same story as johnnymain over in the news thread (post #1918

The Express in the UK are repporting that Ringo and Barbara are planning to move to LA.

"We're selling our house in Surrey and moving to L.A. We've had it for 15 years but we don't spend enough time there, and L.A is the right place for us to be now.

"It's not that sad, because it's time for a change... and the weather is better over there. I'm really into the healthy lifestyle that they have out in L.A."

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18 September 2014
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Hi friends! You know where I find the takes 4, 5, 6,7 and 8 of No Reply ? I only found up to take third. Thanks!

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18 September 2014
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@Rita Eleanor, sadly they haven't been booted and remain locked in the vaults. Two very short pieces of dialogue only (10 and 14 seconds long) from the sessions have been issued and are on the bootleg 'Yellow Chatter Custard'.

Incidently take 3 hasnt been booted either, so far we have gotten Demo Take 1, and Takes 1 & 2.

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Why is the Abby Road cover so popular?

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A very interesting question, Ad40. While I don't pretend to know the definitive answer, I could guess that; 1) It is arguably the most recognizeable Beatles album cover along with Pepper and 2) how many other album covers feature something you can have so much fun phyiscally recreating just by walking? Try walking on this:
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6 October 2014
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Maybe because Abbey Road was the last album...in a way... which marked the finality of the Beatles as a unit. I am not too sure but maybe the general perception of the fans at that time was that the break-up is finally happening and the Beatles, too aware of this, wanted to leave a definite legacy which the Abbey Road cover all too well encapsulates. And what Zig said!

6 October 2014
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It's also just a very well-composed photograph: the sky and trees above, the road below. Thin white lines stretching to a vanishing point on the vertical; fat ones sweeping through the horizontal. And the four guys walking in perfect lockstep; and no writing to detract from the overall effect. The way it makes use of symmetry and the Golden Ratio and the attractive greens and blues, the eye can't help but be drawn to it.

(lol me talking like I know anything 'bout art)

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7 October 2014
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@vonbontee Once you said Golden Ratio I began to think you were just throwing terms in there. a-hard-days-night-george-10

But I agree with all of you. I think the main thing that catches the eye though is was VB said, that they're all in step. It just makes it seem like the most perfect photo ever, along with all the details in the background.

It's so easy to emulate too, like Zig said, but to parody also. You've all seen those shirts and pictures with countless other completely unrelated people/objects set up in the same fashion crossing a zebra walk in step.

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Oh and I forgot: the reference to Paul is dead rumour. Does that count?a-hard-days-night-paul-4

7 October 2014
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They're not all in step, Paul is out of step with the other three hence 'PiD' growing more legs. 

I dont think it has that album cover persona which in turn makes it a far more inviting, interesting and rewarding cover than your normal ones. Its such a simplistic concept and the cover also offers so much when you look at it; the other people in the photo, the police car and all the other ones.

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7 October 2014
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I was reading an article on wiki about how badly Beatles were treated in Philippines. Got to say Imelda was one heck of an angry and annoying woman. People do we have an article on this site or maybe some actual Tv footage?

I used to think all stories about violence and ill-treatment of foreigners were just to dis-grade the country, well it seems that they are true but i can't really say that such things happens now as i have never been there.

And did Paul/ringo/george ever tour in Philippines after break up ?

In the end, sorry if i sound offensive but i can't do anything, whenever beatles are attacked/insulted i get mad a-hard-days-night-john-1

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7 October 2014
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There is tons of stuff on the Beatles visit to the Philippines, a google search offers far more than the below.

The incident is covered in 'The Beatles Anthology', Joe has entries on the 3rd & 5th July, there is a bit of live footage from the 4th July (the audio is not), and there are tons of video's on youtube, for instance here and here. Also. there is a tv interview the Beatles gave after returning to the UK.

None of the Beatles ever went back, best summed up by George on the plane as it departed: "The only way I'd ever go back to that place would be to drop a dirty big bomb on it.".

It was one of the big nails in their decision to stop touring, their visit to America in August was another. Both of these incidents played a large part in George's major reservations to go back on the road after the Beatles split.

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7 October 2014
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About the cover - obviously I realize that Paul is out of step with the rest! I just meant that they'd all taken a step in unison, regardless of the fact that Paul (that damned lefty!) had done so with a different leg than the rest. The visual effect is the same, their legs are all at roughly the same angle.

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8 October 2014
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vonbontee said
About the cover - obviously I realize that Paul is out of step with the rest! I just meant that they'd all taken a step in unison, regardless of the fact that Paul (that damned lefty!) had done so with a different leg than the rest. The visual effect is the same, their legs are all at roughly the same angle.

But the question is, did he do it intentionally? As a sign? A message? “I’m leaving the band; I’m marching to the beat of a different drum”? Have you thought about it? Or am I reading too much into this? Let me know what you think.

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Hey Jude ! said
I was reading an article on wiki about how badly Beatles were treated in Philippines. Got to say Imelda was one heck of an angry and annoying woman. People do we have an article on this site or maybe some actual Tv footage?

I used to think all stories about violence and ill-treatment of foreigners were just to dis-grade the country, well it seems that they are true but i can't really say that such things happens now as i have never been there.

And did Paul/ringo/george ever tour in Philippines after break up ?

In the end, sorry if i sound offensive but i can't do anything, whenever beatles are attacked/insulted i get mad a-hard-days-night-john-1

Poor Mal he was also kickedmal-evans

Just saw this and I'm pretty sure they haven't toured here since, the sentiment remains the same even after 30 years as seen in the Anthology :P

EDIT: No offence taken, that was a dark era for the country, you can see still feel the effects up to this day.

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Oudis said

vonbontee said
About the cover - obviously I realize that Paul is out of step with the rest! I just meant that they'd all taken a step in unison, regardless of the fact that Paul (that damned lefty!) had done so with a different leg than the rest. The visual effect is the same, their legs are all at roughly the same angle.

But the question is, did he do it intentionally? As a sign? A message? “I’m leaving the band; I’m marching to the beat of a different drum”? Have you thought about it? Or am I reading too much into this? Let me know what you think.

@Oudis The symbolism that can be perceived in the cover - the group walking away from the studio, Paul out of step with the others - is all hindsight. At the time of the cover shoot, 8 August 1969, Paul was still desperately hoping a way could be found to settle their differences, and that they'd find a way through their difficulties.

While there was a feeling around Abbey Road  that it would be the last album they'd record, it was unspoken, and Paul was clinging on to hope. You have to remember that the last two albums they recorded (Let It Be  and AR) were largely Paul-driven projects, as he struggled to find a way to keep the group together.

The cover photo was taken just over a month before John's final decision to leave the group, which happened around the 12 September (probably just before) and John flying out to Toronto to perform. Allen Klein was informed, Eric Clapton and Klaus Voorman (both in his pick-up band for Toronto) were told, with John floating the idea that he might want to use them as a band on an on-going basis.

John informed the rest of the group ("I want a divorce...") on 20 September, much to Paul's shock and dismay.

I find it interesting that Eric wasn't John's first choice lead guitarist for the Toronto line-up of the Plastic Ono Band, he asked George who said no because he wasn't interested in what he feared would be an "avant garde" performance (as part of it was). I often wonder, with John feeling hurt and unsupported by George's "no", if that wasn't the moment the Beatles ended.

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Ron Nasty said

Oudis said

vonbontee said
...Paul is out of step with the rest!

But the question is, did he do it intentionally? As a sign? A message? “I’m leaving the band; I’m marching to the beat of a different drum”? 

@Oudis The symbolism that can be perceived in the cover - the group walking away from the studio, Paul out of step with the others - is all hindsight... 

Indeed @Ron Nasty. Thanks for the information and the analysis. For a long time –this may be a different topic but here I go– I felt that Paul was trying to “prove he was The Beatles” –performing his Beatle songs in his solo live performances, singing John’s songs, etc. Now reading your words (“At the time of the cover shoot Paul was still desperately hoping a way could be found to settle their differences”, “The last two albums they recorded were largely Paul-driven projects, as he struggled to find a way to keep the group together”, “John informed the rest of the group ‘I want a divorce...’ to Paul's shock and dismay”) I think that unlike John, who saw The Beatles as the past, Paul still loved them at that time –and maybe he still loves them now.

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Which Beatle is the tallest?

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I've read Paul is the tallest by as little as 1 cm.

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