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Miscellaneous questions about the Beatles
9 July 2019
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Time for me to write a fanfic about Brian trying to organise one of those. 

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The Beatles Christmas Show that took place at the Astoria in Finsbury Park between 24 December 1963 and 11 January 1964 (a total of 30 performances over 16 nights with some obvious days off).

As it was Chrimble, the Beatles would do short sketches between musical acts, as an echo of a pantomime.

John is "Sir Jasper", the villain; Paul is "Fearless Paul", the hero; while George is "the girl in distress"; and Ringo is, erm, "special effects".

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Sir Jasper kidnaps the girl in distress and ties her to the railway tracks (which never happened in any proper early Western) with Fearless Paul swooping in at the last minute to rescue her. When something like snow was called for, Ringo would throw "snowflakes" over them.

It was a bizarre idea that didn't really work. The sketches weren't great because the Beatles didn't really rehearse, and the dialogue couldn't really be heard for the screaming fans. Which didn't stop Brian putting on Another Beatles Christmas Show at the end of 1964.

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John led the way in saying no to their being in Brian's 1965 Christmas Show.

  

I don't suppose it was filmed? a-hard-days-night-paul-7

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Time for me to write a fanfic about Brian trying to organise one of those. 

Yes. Yes. Yes. And yes.

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I don't suppose it was filmed? a-hard-days-night-paul-7

Not that I know of, I'm afraid. I don't even think there's an audio recording, though @meanmistermustard has far better knowledge than me on what's available on bootleg.

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Nothing circulates and as far as I am aware nothing was professionally recorded (outside the tv bits we’ve seen). Very few of the Beatles UK tours were recorded by the fans tho two or three shows (Bournemouth ‘63 for one) have surfaced, and that’s all in excerpts and generally with commentary on top. 

A few bootlegs claim to feature ‘IHJTDWY’ from a ‘64 Scottish show but it’s a fake (the BBC recording with audience added). 

There is footage from the ‘65 UK tour but nothing has appeared aside from the very briefest glimpse of Paul. 

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Strange question but one that came to mind.

How many of the Beatles songs start by singing the exact title of the song, so not 'Anna (Go To Him')' or 'Love Me Do ' (which starts "Love, Love Me Do ") for example?

Let's see, and I'll see how far I get before getting bored (got up to 1967).

 

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  2. It Won't Be Long
  3. Little Child
  4. She Loves You
  5. I Should Have Known Better
  6. If I Fell
  7. Can't Buy Me Love
  8. Any Time At All
  9. Help !
  10. You're Going To Lose That Girl
  11. I've Just Seen A Face
  12. Yesterday
  13. Michelle
  14. What Goes On
  15. I'm Looking Through You
  16. If I Needed Someone
  17. Eleanor Rigby
  18. Good Day Sunshine
  19. I Want To Tell You
  20. Paperback Writer

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@Beatlebug your list looks good but I don’t see something

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Edited, thanks. I originally skipped the one-word titles but then I decided that they counted and put them in retroactively, which is probably why I missed that one.

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I just realized “on Penny Lane ” means that that song doesn’t count

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As far as I can tell, at the very beginning of the recorded version of the song, he sings the words 'Penny Lane ', no 'on' -- that's later in the song/in live versions.

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Thanks @Beatlebug tho you have missed 'Any Time At All ' which is on my list - which evidently forgot the 'Long Tall Sally ' E.P. and the entirety of 'Beatles For Sale '.

I'm tempted to veer into the BBC and extraneous material (ignoring the bazillion 'Get Back ' possibilities) but not tonight.

 

Is 'Wild Honey Pie ' the only Beatles track that opens with the exact title of another Beatles song - "Honey Pie "?

 

I'm enjoying this line of questioning.

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Is there any good book about John's days at the Dakota?

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OK....hopefully someone here can help me.  I'm a fan of the Beatles' mid-to-late period output...not so much their early stuff.  However, I heard an earlier Beatles song on my radio alarm clock as I was waking up about a year ago that I really liked, but I just can't place it anymore.  It was an earlier Beatles song, I believe Paul sang, it wasn't a "popular" song, it had that kind of harsh guitar sound like on Taxman or The Word .  I think the subject of the lyrics was a female who done the singer wrong and "you'll get yours" somehow.  I'm no musician, but I believe it was in a minor chord...it wasn't a happy sounding song at all.  I've been through the song list here, but I still just can't place it!!  I'm starting to think it may have been a Beatles sound-a-like group that I'm unaware of.  The closest thing I can find to the melody is The Word or Little Girl, but it's neither of those...I think it may have been an earlier song.  Thanks for any help.  It's driving me nuts!!!

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OK....hopefully someone here can help me.  I'm a fan of the Beatles' mid-to-late period output...not so much their early stuff.  However, I heard an earlier Beatles song on my radio alarm clock as I was waking up about a year ago that I really liked, but I just can't place it anymore.  It was an earlier Beatles song, I believe Paul sang, it wasn't a "popular" song, it had that kind of harsh guitar sound like on Taxman or The Word .  I think the subject of the lyrics was a female who done the singer wrong and "you'll get yours" somehow.  I'm no musician, but I believe it was in a minor chord...it wasn't a happy sounding song at all.  I've been through the song list here, but I still just can't place it!!  I'm starting to think it may have been a Beatles sound-a-like group that I'm unaware of.  The closest thing I can find to the melody is The Word or Little Girl, but it's neither of those...I think it may have been an earlier song.  Thanks for any help.  It's driving me nuts!!!

 

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The ‘you’ll get yours’ sounds like it’s from Sexy Sadie ... but that’s not exactly early... I don’t suppose you remember if it had harmonica? ahdn_george_01

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Could it be She's A Woman which has a similar similar rythmn/guitar sound to Taxman and The Word ? From memory I thought it was a song where Paul is griping about a girl because that's the tone of the vocal but it's in praise of a girl so doesn't fit exactly.

 

 

Or You Won't See Me which has that same guitar style and is definitely a Paul girl gripe song.

 

 

A few other suggestions

 

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Does the Mexican version of Rubber Soul contain the US or UK mixes?

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The Mexican version, @Dark Overlord, though using the US version of the cover, uses the UK tracklisting - but they could well be Mexican mixes.

For instance, You Won't See Me  clocks in at 3:19 on the US edition, 3:18 on the UK edition, but - according to Discogs (which is usually pretty accurate) - on the Mexican edition it comes in at 3:32.

I'll look into it further to see if I can find more information.

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This isn't a "want to know more info" type question. Just a what if... but I don't think it fits properly in the What If game.

If Paul had died in 1980 instead of John and Ringo had died in 2001 instead of George, do you think John and George would have carried on the Beatles brand/name/myth as much as Paul and Ringo have? What do you think would be different than the way things are now? Would there be all these remixes and re-releases?

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