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21 January 2018
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Can we attribute the Beatle mop top to Moe from the Three Stooges? I just found this interview with him where tells how he got his haircut and then mentions he did it long before the Beatles.¬† ūüôā¬† From about 2 mins

 

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No, we can't.

Long story, shortly told:

Popular cut among the Exis, both Jurgen and Klaus have one, Astrid persuades Stu, boys laugh, John and Paul follow suit in Paris, George joins them, they sack Pete, get Ringo in, Ringo gets moptop.

All German students. Also known as the Hamlet cut.

No Stooges involved.

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Necko said
Were the Beatles truly the first to intentionally use feedback on a record? 

The reason that I ask is because many things that have been claimed as Beatle firsts over the years were not actually done for the first time by the Beatles. It wouldn't surprise me if this one weren't true, but I can't think of anything earlier.   

Old post, but I think it's less that The Beatles did it first, more that they did it almost first and with a global audience bigger than anyone else's, including those who would go on to be the stars of the 70s and beyond.

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Ron Nasty said
No, we can't.

Long story, shortly told:

Popular cut among the Exis, both Jurgen and Klaus have one, Astrid persuades Stu, boys laugh, John and Paul follow suit in Paris, George joins them, they sack Pete, get Ringo in, Ringo gets moptop.

All German students. Also known as the Hamlet cut.

No Stooges involved.  

Perhaps I worded it wrong but I didn't mean The Beatles were influenced by The Three Stooges just that Moe got there first with the mop top. Ok I'm being tongue in cheek as I'm sure it was probably a popular hair style in the middle ages and perhaps elsewhere but lets give Moe some credit.

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Here's another question. Anyone know which other guitars went missing along with Paul's "Hamburg" bass in 1969? I wasn't aware any others went missing but just read this article https://reverb.com/news/still-at-large-6-famous-stolen-guitars-that-have-yet-to-be-recovered

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I knew about George's guitar that got lost in Hamburg

23 January 2018
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I was reading up on Paul and George and thought,

Which two Beatles had the most stable/consistent relationship across the years?

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There's little doubt in my mind that it would have to be George and Ringo, despite George's fling with Maureen playing a large part in the ending of her and Ringo's marriage.

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Paul has a few messy relationships, however his marriage with Linda was long and stable. 

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However, Linda wasn't a Beatle, and the question was about which two Beatles...

The best three inter-Beatles relationships all involved Ringo, with his relationship with John coming second, and Paul third.

The relationships between John, Paul and George all experienced difficulties over the years, with Paul and George's appearing the most difficult, while John and Paul's wasn't much better.

For all the talk of how John and Paul had settled their differences by the time of John's death, ignored is the fact that an ongoing case against Capitol would have caused probably the biggest rift between the two since the battle for Northern Songs in 1969.

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Is there any recording of the Beatles playing Buddy Holly's Everyday ?

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13 March 2018
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I have a question too.

I've heard that all 4 Beatles had to agree for a song to be released as an album track or single.

Do we know which songs were vetoed by which Beatle(s)?

Ringo vetoed X song. Paul and George vetoed Y song. John vetoed Z song.

13 March 2018
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Shamrock Womlbs said
Is there any recording of the Beatles playing Buddy Holly's Everyday ?  

@meanmistermustard would know if there is. No pressure, mmm!

Ahhh Girl said
I have a question too.

I've heard that all 4 Beatles had to agree for a song to be released as an album track or single.

Do we know which songs were vetoed by which Beatle(s)?

Ringo vetoed X song. Paul and George vetoed Y song. John vetoed Z song.  

Whenever I've read something along those lines, it was usually a Beatle saying "they" thought this or "they" thought that.  George Martin was often part of "they" as well. If there are documented stories of one particular Beatle vetoing a particular song - from a reliable source, mind you - I'd love to read all about it.

Now, if only there were a librarian who could help find such a book. Hmmmmm...

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'Everyday' may have been attempted during the lengthy 'Get Back ' sessions, almost every other song was (I'm not able to check). Aside from that, I don't recall anything else, certainly nothing circulates.

I can't even think of a solo recording.

 

Re vetoing possible singles, they usually referred in the plural when talking about what failed to make a single, if ever going that far. The obviously few are ''No Reply ', 'I'm A Loser ' and 'Eight Days A Week ; all passed over for 'I Feel Fine ' but I don't recall a reason or any one of them saying no. 'EDAW' being downplayed by John and Paul further down the line may explain why that was ultimately overlooked, at least in the UK. 

It's said that none of them knew what to do with ''Yesterday ' as it didnt fit their single image (for similar reasons John pushed for 'Day Tripper ' to be a double a-side with 'We Can Work It Out ') and Brian didn't want what may be perceived as a solo recording put out. 

'Thank You Girl ' and 'I'll Get You ' were planned to be the a-sides until better songs were written so were turned into the b-sides.

John would have liked '''Revolution ' to have been an a-side but was able to see how deserving 'Hey Jude ' was. It was also John who suggested 'Something ' be a single.

I don't remember many others.

I think Brian had a large say in 'Eleanor Rigby '/'Yellow Submarine ' being taken from 'Revolver '.

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Joe has posted a list of all the songs from the Get Back session. https://www.beatlesbible.com/features/get-back-let-it-be-sessions-complete-song-list/

Everyday isn't on the list.

Now as to my question, so far, I too am only finding Lennon-McCartney dissing George's songs and shoving them on the the Yellow Submarine soundtrack.

From Joe's page for Isn't It A Pity : "During the 1969 sessions, Harrison revealed that John Lennon had vetoed The Beatles from working on Isn't It A Pity in 1966, and that Harrison had considered offering it to Frank Sinatra instead."

Just in general, on Joe's page for Another Girl :

We all had to like it. If anyone didn't like one of our songs it was vetoed. It could be vetoed by one person. If Ringo said, 'I don't like that one,' we wouldn't do it, or we'd have to really persuade him.
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I want to know what Ringo (and the other three) said NO to. Something tells me I will never get the answer. They probably didn't keep a list of this sort.

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It wouldn't surprise me that if three agreed then usually the other would be happy to go with it. I can't see Ringo saying no to anything and firmly disagreeing with the others. 

George being told he could do better than 'Only A Northern Song ' and John compromising over 'What's The New Mary Jane ' and 'Revolution 9 ' are the only two songs I can think of.

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Ahhh Girl said
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I want to know what Ringo (and the other three) said NO to. Something tells me I never get the answer. They probably didn't keep a list of this sort.  

I bet they all agreed with If You've Got Trouble ... a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

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We know The Beatles failed the audition for Decca, but I've seen it stated that they were rejected by every other record label until Parlophone saw something in them. But what form did these rejections take? Actual auditions? Was there a demo tape that hasn't seen the light of day? A&R visits to live shows? Or just a rejection letter based on the infamous 'guitar groups are out' model? Doesn't seem to be a lot written about these other rejections.

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Someone will no doubt correct me but, off the top of my head, I recall Brian going around with a tape, probably from the Decca session but i've seen it suggested it was not, playing the acetate to whoever would listen and be rejected pretty much on the spot. He felt gutted and that he had let the band down every time he had to report back with yet another rejection.

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Good afternoon.

Thanks for reading this post.

Had a "discussion" with a friend about how many Beatle songs there are without Guitar. 

I came up with 3.  Elanor Rigby, She's Leaving Home and Goodnight. 

We originally thought Within You Without You but did discover that George did double some of the sitar parts on guitar.  

Are there any more?

Thanks!

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