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Miscellaneous questions about the Beatles
14 December 2016
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14 December 2016
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I would consider Billy less than an equal member during his months with them in 1969, but far more than a session musician.

You end up in a similar situation when considered the roles of the various Plastic Ono Band and Wings members over the years.

I suppose a session musician is generally someone brought in to fulfil a specific brief that no member of the band is able to, their only creative input being how they performed the part/script offered them.

I would probably consider Billy as a companion musician for a while, someone brought in without a script to follow and with an open invitation to contribute creatively to how the songs took shape as they worked on them.

His creative contributions to much of Let It Be  and Abbey Road  raised their own efforts.

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15 December 2016
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'Only A Northern Song ' is all Beatley.

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15 December 2016
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HMBeatlesfan said
Hold the phone Starr Shine because you're claiming that these Beatles songs aren't Beatles songs:

Little Child

Yesterday

Eleanor Rigby

Love You To

She Said She Said

For No One

She's Leaving Home

Within You Without You

Only A Northern Song

Back In The USSR

Dear Prudence

The Inner Light

Wild Honey Pie

Martha My Dear

Don't Pass Me By

Why Don't We Do It In The Road

I Will

Julia

Mother Nature's Son

Long Long Long

Good Night

Here Comes The Sun

Golden Slumbers

The Ballad Of John And Yoko

Across The Universe

I Me Mine   

You missed Her Majesty and Maxwell's Silver Hammer .

 

I agree with Starr Shine? as there were 4 members of the group, and if they weren't all present, that means that the group wasn't present. Would you call John, Ringo and Paul the Beatles, for example? No - George isn't on the list. And in my mind, that directly translates to recordings as well.

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15 December 2016
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Uh-oh. Are we going to have to vote again to rank "Beatles" songs?

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Isn't that funny... I just raised that idea at another thread...

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The Hole Got Fixed said
You missed Her Majesty and Maxwell's Silver Hammer .  

I missed them for a reason. For Her Majesty , the first note, which is the last note of Mean Mr. Mustard, contains 2 electric guitars (John's Casino and George's Tele), bass guitar (Paul's Jazz Bass), drums (Ringo), electric piano (Paul's Fender Rhodes), and tambourine (Ringo), along with Paul's D-28 acoustic from Her Majety. As for Maxwell's Silver Hammer , John's playing acoustic guitar during the 2nd and 3rd choruses.

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15 December 2016
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...and I've learned something new. Thanks!

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16 December 2016
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Do we know how Aunt Mimi, Jim, Elsie, or Harold and Louise reacted to to The Beatles taking drugs? @Joe or anyone

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There is a story that Kate Robbins - British comedienne, actress, singer, and Paul's cousin (it was the Robbins' family pub on the Isle of Wight where the Nurk Twins would perform) - tells of the family's reaction when stories of Paul's drug use started making the headlines around 1967.

A family deputation was sent down from Liverpool to London to find out what was going on with him, Auntie Gin being the most well-known of the family members involved. They spent a couple of days with Paul.

Getting back to Liverpool, they were quizzed by other family members about what was going on with Paul, whether he'd got weird, and what was all this talk of drugs...

The story is that Auntie Gin pulled out a big joint, sparked it up, took a long drag, and then started handing it around, telling everybody drugs were nothing to be really worried about... and that Paul was still Paul...

How true the story is, who knows...

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Thanks, RN!

Hummmm, is that why Paul name checks Auntie Gin in 'Let Em In?

16 December 2016
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There's also the bit that I've Just Seen A Face , a disguised drug song, is said to have been known as Auntie Gin's Theme for a bit while it was being written, @Ahhh Girl...

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16 December 2016
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Ooooo, the plot thickens...

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The Hole Got Fixed said

You missed Her Majesty and Maxwell's Silver Hammer .

 

I agree with Starr Shine? as there were 4 members of the group, and if they weren't all present, that means that the group wasn't present. Would you call John, Ringo and Paul the Beatles, for example? No - George isn't on the list. And in my mind, that directly translates to recordings as well.  

Well what about the songs from before Ringo? They were already The Beatles for some time before Richy joined them.

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And all four are on Little Child ...

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Thanks for giving me my next miscellaneous question about The Beatles Ron, why do multiple sources claim that George is on Little Child when he clearly isn't. If you listen to the song, here's what I hear and what I think's going on in the final mix. John's singing and playing a harmonica, which is clearly an overdub, Paul's singing, playing his Hofner bass, and playing a piano overdub, while Ringo is just drumming. It is possible that John used his Rick to play rhythm guitar, possibly to help play the piano part later, and during the first "baby take a chance with me", you can hear what could possibly be a compressed Rick slip through, although if this is true, that means the Rick is very low in the mix, even more than the bass. It's safe to assume George was taking a break at the time and was not present while this song was being recorded.

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Did the Beatles play at the Carven after  no longer touring?

18 December 2016
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Did the Beatles play at the Carven after  no longer touring?  

I doubt it. 

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The Beatles never returned to play the Cavern after their final performance on the 3rd August 1963.

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However, it should be noted that Paul has played the Cavern Club as a solo artist many, many years later. 

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