Please consider registering
Guest
sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
Miscellaneous questions about the Beatles
22 November 2016
7.57pm
Avatar
William Shears Campbell
The Great Wall City Of Salt Lake
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3360
Member Since:
14 June 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
641sp_Permalink sp_Print

@meanmistermustard said

I couldn't care less if my countries leader liked the Beatles or preferred The Carpenters, what matters to me is his or her policies, characteristics, the way he/she carried out their governorship etc. 

And i can think of many worse things than a President not liking a pop group.  

country's*

The following people thank William Shears Campbell for this post:

meanmistermustard

Here | There | Everywhere

The one and only Billy Shears (AKA Paul's Replacement)

2016:New-member-Badge.png

2017:S2016MSKCTA.jpg"He still remains active while being away."

22 November 2016
8.10pm
Avatar
BeatleSoul
Somewhere around the world
The Kaiserkeller
Members
Forum Posts: 55
Member Since:
11 November 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
642sp_Permalink sp_Print

meanmistermustard said

The Beatles weren't unpopular in Japan. I have no idea what this is all about now.  

I've found shelves full of Beatles CDs and vinyls in a music shop in Japan. The people I know there all love the Beatles. And they have an ear for good music, I can say it without a doubt. 

Long Live The Beatles!

22 November 2016
8.30pm
Avatar
Starr Shine?
Waiting in the sky
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 15940
Member Since:
1 November 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
643sp_Permalink sp_Print

William Shears Campbell said

country's*  

UK got countries in its country.

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

Brainwashed by RadiantCowbells.

If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.

22 November 2016
9.27pm
Avatar
SaxonMothersSon
Royal Command Performance
Members
Forum Posts: 254
Member Since:
30 July 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
644sp_Permalink sp_Print

Starr Shine? said
What do you think the Beatles emblematize in music history?  

Rewind back to the scene in A Hard Day's Night where, after being confined by the powers that be, the lads escape into a field and dance, prance, jump and generally act goofy. That's what they've always represented to me. Innovation. Breaking barriers. Of course they get busted by an old geezer. "Sorry if we hurt your field, Mister!" THAT'S The Beatles to me!

I don't see them as "The 60's" at all. Everything musically that's even allowed on Media today is pre-approved regimented cookie-cutter Corporate Slop with LasVegas dancers flopping around. There are innovators today, but they're pushed to the sidelines because $$$ talks, talent walks.

Matches...Candles...Matches...Candles

29 November 2016
12.33am
Avatar
Little Piggy Dragonguy
Nowhere Land
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3907
Member Since:
5 November 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
645sp_Permalink sp_Print

@Ron Nasty  said
And what a load of BS!

ANYONE who thinks The Beatles weren't popular in Japan hasn't seen the Budokan concerts.

Stop spouting racist shit. And suggesting The Beatles weren't as popular in Japan as they were in the US or UK is racist. The Beatles, by turnout, were not as popular in the US or UK as they were in Australia. The biggest ever audience for an audience.

Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anything racist said by @HMBeatlesfan  in this thread. All he said was: "Yoko's Japanese and The Beatles weren't as popular in Japan as they were in the US or UK."

The definition of racist by Merriam-Webster is "a discrimination or hatred based on race". I don't see anything hateful or discriminatory in his statement. Sure, maybe he was wrong and they were more popular in Japan than he thought, but that does not make him racist. That's a pretty heavy thing to just throw out at somebody for getting one fact about The Beatles' popularity in Japan wrong. I think an apology is warranted as that claim was both unjustified and churlish. 

The following people thank Little Piggy Dragonguy for this post:

Necko, Evangeline, HMBeatlesfan, C.R.A.

All living things must abide by the laws of the shape they inhabit 

29 November 2016
2.09am
Avatar
Ron Nasty
Apple rooftop
Members

Reviewers
Forum Posts: 10926
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
646sp_Permalink sp_Print

I'm happy to explain why I found, and still find, the comment racist.

Let's say, for arguments sake, that The Beatles were hugely unpopular in Japan. Why would this mean that Yoko, because she's also Japanese, would have been unaware of them? Yoko spent much of the '50's living in the US, and was living in the middle of a vibrant artistic community in New York from late-'63/early '64 until the move to London in the second half of 1966. She was a New Yorker during the period of the British Invasion.

As soon as you bring someone's race up as a negative argument, and then use a falsehood (mistaken or otherwise) to back-up that argument, you are stepping into the grounds of racism.

The big nasty racism that we should all fear grows out of the tolerance of the low-level jibes and criticisms that use race as their basis.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966

29 November 2016
2.18am
Avatar
The Hole Got Fixed
A Dock at Southampton
Moderator

Moderators
Forum Posts: 7968
Member Since:
27 November 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
647sp_Permalink sp_Print

I can't see what's wrong with the statement, but if you truly believe it is racist, I'll take your word for it. 

#AppleHoley2020: Get smelly people cleaned up! /-/ Make America hygienic again!
2016 awards: Username-Badge.png 2017 awards: The-Hole-Got-Fixed-2017.png 2018 awards:The-Hole-Got-Fixed-2018.png 2019 awards: Ringo-2019.png
aus-flag-v-small.png

29 November 2016
6.38am
Avatar
William Shears Campbell
The Great Wall City Of Salt Lake
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3360
Member Since:
14 June 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
648sp_Permalink sp_Print

@Ron Nasty said
Let's say, for arguments sake, that The Beatles were hugely unpopular in Japan. Why would this mean that Yoko, because she's also Japanese, would have been unaware of them? Yoko spent much of the '50's living in the US, and was living in the middle of a vibrant artistic community in New York from late-'63/early '64 until the move to London in the second half of 1966. She was a New Yorker during the period of the British Invasion.

Didn't know this about Yoko. I thought she was in Japan for most of her life.  Not because I'm racist, but because I know that she was born in Japan.  I just don't do my Yoko research.  @HMBeatlesfan probably thought the same thing.  He didn't intentionally exclude Yoko because of her race, he just got where she lived wrong.  I mean I could be wrong about HMB's intentions, but that's what they appear to be.  So no need to get angry.  Peace and Love

The following people thank William Shears Campbell for this post:

HMBeatlesfan, Beatlebug

Here | There | Everywhere

The one and only Billy Shears (AKA Paul's Replacement)

2016:New-member-Badge.png

2017:S2016MSKCTA.jpg"He still remains active while being away."

30 November 2016
7.12pm
Avatar
Little Piggy Dragonguy
Nowhere Land
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3907
Member Since:
5 November 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
649sp_Permalink sp_Print

Ron Nasty said
I'm happy to explain why I found, and still find, the comment racist.

Let's say, for arguments sake, that The Beatles were hugely unpopular in Japan. Why would this mean that Yoko, because she's also Japanese, would have been unaware of them? Yoko spent much of the '50's living in the US, and was living in the middle of a vibrant artistic community in New York from late-'63/early '64 until the move to London in the second half of 1966. She was a New Yorker during the period of the British Invasion.

I'm assuming that HMBeatlesFan was unaware that Yoko was not living in Japan during the heyday of the fab four. This might make him ignorant, but it does not make him racist.

As soon as you bring someone's race up as a negative argument, and then use a falsehood (mistaken or otherwise) to back-up that argument, you are stepping into the grounds of racism.

And the negative argument that HMBeatlesFan made was.....?

What he said was "...The Beatles weren't as popular in Japan as they were in the US or UK." I do not understand how this is negative. And to be honest, I would expect that to be true. Do you really think that The Beatles were more popular in Japan than they were in the US or the UK?

I also think it is worthy to note again that what you are talking about is ignorance and not racism. 

The big nasty racism that we should all fear grows out of the tolerance of the low-level jibes and criticisms that use race as their basis.  

I don't know what you're talking about here. I did not see any jibe or criticism in HMBeatlesFan's post. He was merely stating facts. Yoko IS Japanese, and I highly, highly doubt that The Beatles were more popular in Japan than they were in the US or UK. 

 

I'm not sure you understand what racism is. I even provided you with the definition but it seems as though you ignored that because it doesn't help justify your claim that what HMBeatlesFan said was racist.

The following people thank Little Piggy Dragonguy for this post:

HMBeatlesfan

All living things must abide by the laws of the shape they inhabit 

30 November 2016
7.34pm
Avatar
HMBeatlesfan
Kalamazoo, Seussville, USA
Candlestick Park
Guests
Forum Posts: 1115
Member Since:
23 July 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
650sp_Permalink sp_Print

Ron Nasty said
I'm happy to explain why I found, and still find, the comment racist.

Let's say, for arguments sake, that The Beatles were hugely unpopular in Japan. Why would this mean that Yoko, because she's also Japanese, would have been unaware of them? Yoko spent much of the '50's living in the US, and was living in the middle of a vibrant artistic community in New York from late-'63/early '64 until the move to London in the second half of 1966. She was a New Yorker during the period of the British Invasion.

As soon as you bring someone's race up as a negative argument, and then use a falsehood (mistaken or otherwise) to back-up that argument, you are stepping into the grounds of racism.

The big nasty racism that we should all fear grows out of the tolerance of the low-level jibes and criticisms that use race as their basis.  

I thought Yoko lived in Japan until 1966, didn't know she was living in the UK at the time.

Maybe you should try posting more.

30 November 2016
7.43pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Here when I am. Not when I am not.
Moderator
Members

Reviewers


Moderators
Forum Posts: 23287
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I'm not that sure it matters where Yoko was in the mid-60's, the fact is that she knew of the Beatles before she met John despite claims otherwise. Either she told John a pile of garbage and he decided to believe her or they decided to spin it to fit a story they preferred to tell.

The following people thank meanmistermustard for this post:

The Hole Got Fixed

"I told you everything I could about me, Told you everything I could" ('Before Believing' - Emmylou Harris)

10 December 2016
4.12pm
Avatar
SayaOtonashi
London Palladium
Members
Forum Posts: 109
Member Since:
21 January 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
652sp_Permalink sp_Print

Did all the Beatles turn vegan or vegetarian? 

10 December 2016
4.24pm
Avatar
Starr Shine?
Waiting in the sky
Apple rooftop
Members
Forum Posts: 15940
Member Since:
1 November 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
653sp_Permalink sp_Print

Veggitarian.

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

Brainwashed by RadiantCowbells.

If you can't log in and can't use the forum go here and someone will help you out.

10 December 2016
6.05pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
Apple rooftop
Members

Reviewers
Forum Posts: 10926
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
654sp_Permalink sp_Print

John didn't, although he had periods of vegetarianism.

His diet was mainly macrobiotic in his last years (which allows fish) and occasionally meat.

I offer further details in this post.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

To @ Ron Nasty it's @ mja6758
The Beatles Bible 2020 non-Canon Poll Part One: 1958-1963 and Part Two: 1964-August 1966

11 December 2016
3.45pm
Avatar
HMBeatlesfan
Kalamazoo, Seussville, USA
Candlestick Park
Guests
Forum Posts: 1115
Member Since:
23 July 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
655sp_Permalink sp_Print

Why did they put the solo for Nowhere Man so early.

Maybe you should try posting more.

11 December 2016
4.32pm
Avatar
Shamrock Womlbs
Waiting for the van to come
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3167
Member Since:
24 March 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
656sp_Permalink sp_Print

So early in the song or in their career? a-hard-days-night-paul-10

The following people thank Shamrock Womlbs for this post:

William Shears Campbell

"I Need You by George Harrison"

12 December 2016
4.16pm
Avatar
HMBeatlesfan
Kalamazoo, Seussville, USA
Candlestick Park
Guests
Forum Posts: 1115
Member Since:
23 July 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
657sp_Permalink sp_Print

I can't believe I have to say this, but I meant early in the song.

The following people thank HMBeatlesfan for this post:

Little Piggy Dragonguy

Maybe you should try posting more.

12 December 2016
4.58pm
Avatar
Shamrock Womlbs
Waiting for the van to come
Rishikesh
Members
Forum Posts: 3167
Member Since:
24 March 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
658sp_Permalink sp_Print

I was joking.

"I Need You by George Harrison"

12 December 2016
5.16pm
Avatar
The Hole Got Fixed
A Dock at Southampton
Moderator

Moderators
Forum Posts: 7968
Member Since:
27 November 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
659sp_Permalink sp_Print

Every song has to be different in some way, so they put the solo in early in the song to make it different. 

The following people thank The Hole Got Fixed for this post:

William Shears Campbell

#AppleHoley2020: Get smelly people cleaned up! /-/ Make America hygienic again!
2016 awards: Username-Badge.png 2017 awards: The-Hole-Got-Fixed-2017.png 2018 awards:The-Hole-Got-Fixed-2018.png 2019 awards: Ringo-2019.png
aus-flag-v-small.png

12 December 2016
7.38pm
Avatar
C.R.A.
Land of the Rising Sun
Carnegie Hall
Members
Forum Posts: 509
Member Since:
4 February 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
660sp_Permalink sp_Print

Little Piggy Dragonguy said

I don't know what you're talking about here. I did not see any jibe or criticism in HMBeatlesFan's post. He was merely stating facts. Yoko IS Japanese, and I highly, highly doubt that The Beatles were more popular in Japan than they were in the US or UK. 

I'm not sure you understand what racism is. I even provided you with the definition but it seems as though you ignored that because it doesn't help justify your claim that what HMBeatlesFan said was racist.  

Also... Japanese isn't a race, it's a nationality.

The following people thank C.R.A. for this post:

Starr Shine?, Necko, Beatlebug

“Send John out first; he’s the one they want.”

~ someone said it, dammit.

Memphis, 1966

Forum Timezone: America/Chicago
Most Users Ever Online: 700
Currently Online: 50yearslate
Guest(s) 1
Top Posters:
Starr Shine?: 15940
Ron Nasty: 10926
50yearslate: 8627
Necko: 7911
AppleScruffJunior: 7225
parlance: 7111
mr. Sun king coming together: 6403
Mr. Kite: 6147
trcanberra: 6064
sir walter raleigh: 5141
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 87
Members: 2592
Moderators: 6
Admins: 1
Forum Stats:
Groups: 3
Forums: 44
Topics: 4913
Posts: 351444
Newest Members:
the_chomby, Sexy Sadie, The rose on the hill, Hello little quarrygirl, MickeyMoussie
Moderators: Joe: 5119, Zig: 9812, meanmistermustard: 23287, Ahhh Girl: 19502, Beatlebug: 17351, The Hole Got Fixed: 7968
Administrators: Joe: 5119