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Miscellaneous questions about the Beatles
1 November 2015
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Could have been during their heroin era, as junkies tend to be less hygienic. Could also have been some kind of weird statement. I mean, these are the same people who sat on the sidewalk in a bag.

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If the Beatles dived off the stage, would the be able to crowd surf or would they of gotten mauled.

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Torn to pieces and probably suffocated as hundreds of fans pile on top. Or drown in the fans urine. a-hard-days-night-paul-3

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meanmistermustard said

Torn to pieces and probably suffocated as hundreds of fans pile on top. Or drown in the fans urine. a-hard-days-night-paul-3

Lovely visuals, mmm. And probably very true.

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Why are the Beatles CD’s (Pepper, Revolver , Help ! etc) £11.99 to download on iTunes when you can them new from Amazon for £7.99? Why pay almost 50% more? Same goes for the ‘White Album ‘. Surely downloading should be cheaper than buying the actual album.

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8 November 2015
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Are the Amazon ones physical?

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It seems they are – the 2009 re-masters to boot.

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That’s your reason.

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Annadog40 said
That’s your reason.

Whats the reason?

Both itunes and Amazon offer the 2009 remasters and downloads should be cheaper than buying the cd’s.

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Aren’t you missing the point, @Starr Shine?. Physical product has the additional costs of production of the disc and sleeve, the cost of the packaging to send it in, and the cost of sending it. The transfer of a digital file involves none of these. So, even sold at the same price, the profit margin on the digital file is higher. When the physical product is cheaper than the digital, then the profit margin on the digital is much higher than the physical.

The actual answer, @meanmistermustard, is that Apple set the price when they agreed to allow iTunes to sell The Beatles music, and iTunes are not allowed to vary the price without the agreement of Apple (as has occasionally happened), whereas Apple has no control over the price of physical product, only able to suggest a recommended retail price but not able to enforce it. With iTunes Apple are able to enforce the price because it’s in their contract with iTunes.

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Did any of The Beatles take antidepressants? Which antidepressants were on the market at that time?

If they had taken prescription antidepressants, would they have taken so many other drugs?

I’m just thinking about several threads we have here on the forum
Do you think George was dealing with depression from 66 to the break-up?
Was John Haunted By His Inner Emptiness?
Paul’s supposedly “Massive Ego” Antidepressants might have been able to help him chill out.
And for Ringo – maybe he wouldn’t have quit during the White Album sessions or have gotten so messed up on drugs and alcohol.

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I don’t think there was much available in the ’60s as far as antidepressants.  MAOIs weren’t discovered until 1968.  SSRIs weren’t available until 1982.

If they had taken prescription antidepressants, would they have taken so many drugs?  I don’t know.  I don’t know John, Paul, George or Ringo personally and don’t have the proper credentials to make a diagnosis.  Also, it’s a very commonly-believed stereotype that people who do recreational drugs are doing so for purposes of self-medication.  I’m not saying that there aren’t people who do do that, but a great many just do recreational drugs for fun.  Without knowing any of the four personally and not having a PhD, I can’t really say much for sure.  Maybe I shouldn’t give such a wishy-washy answer, but it is really more of an opinion question than a fact question, so…

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While Necko’s response is correct, I believe your question is flawed, @Ahhh Girl. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the way I read your question is whether any of them were ever prescribed drugs to combat depression?

Antidepressants, as a group of drugs, started to come in the late ’60s as Necko says. However, before their arrival (and after), two groups of drugs were widely used to treat depression. The first group was stimulants, with the most commonly prescribed being the amphetamine Benzedrine (known in recreational circles as Benni’s). The amphetamine group of drugs had been around since the 1880s. The second group widely used was tranquillisers, which saw a “breakthrough” in the early ’60s with the introduction of the benzodiazepines. The most widely used of these was Valium (now known as Diazepam). The Rolling Stones’ Mother ‘s Little Helper from 1965 was about the increasing prescription of Valium.

These two groups of drugs were the “antidepressants” of their day.

While it’s unknown whether any of them were prescribed drugs from either group during that time, it would not surprise me.

Remember, Brian was heavily using prescribed drugs from both groups from around 1965 onwards, and that they would play a part in his death. As someone within the inner circle, it should be noted that the prescription drugs did nothing to decrease his use of “illegal” drugs.

It should also remembered that certain of the “recreational” drugs they used were legal when they started using them. For instance, when John and George first took LSD in 1965 it was a legal drug. It was not banned by the Home Secretary until the summer of 1966.

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Ron Nasty said 
Antidepressants, as a group of drugs, started to come in the late ’60s as Necko says. However, before their arrival (and after), two groups of drugs were widely used to treat depression. The first group was stimulants, with the most commonly prescribed being the amphetamine Benzedrine (known in recreational circles as Benni’s). The amphetamine group of drugs had been around since the 1880s. The second group widely used was tranquillisers, which saw a “breakthrough” in the early ’60s with the introduction of the benzodiazepines. The most widely used of these was Valium (now known as Diazepam). The Rolling Stones’ Mother ‘s Little Helper from 1965 was about the increasing prescription of Valium.

These two groups of drugs were the “antidepressants” of their day.

While it’s unknown whether any of them were prescribed drugs from either group during that time, it would not surprise me.

Remember, Brian was heavily using prescribed drugs from both groups from around 1965 onwards, and that they would play a part in his death. As someone within the inner circle, it should be noted that the prescription drugs did nothing to decrease his use of “illegal” drugs.

It should also remembered that certain of the “recreational” drugs they used were legal when they started using them. For instance, when John and George first took LSD in 1965 it was a legal drug. It was not banned by the Home Secretary until the summer of 1966.

That’s true.  I left that out because there were a few things that were used as antidepressants before what we typically think of as antidepressants were introduced.  For instance, isoniazid and iproniazid, two drugs developed for treatment of tuberculosis, had antidepressant properties and were used in treatment of depression in the 1950’s and early 1960’s. (Their use as antidepressants was discontinued mainly due to negative side effects associated with them and better alternatives being discovered.)

I believe that amphetamines are still used to treat mild depression occasionally.

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You got to the crux of what I was wondering, @Ron Nasty. Thanks. We don’t really know if they were prescribed Benzedrine or Valium, or if they took them if they had a prescription for them. Were those drugs easy to get without a prescription?

Amitriptyline and some other tricyclic antidepressants have been around and approved since the 1950’s.

It would be interesting to know if any doctor every thought any of The Beatles needed antidepressants in the 60’s.

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Ahhh Girl said
You got to the crux of what I was wondering, @Ron Nasty. Thanks. We don’t really know if they were prescribed Benzedrine or Valium, or if they took them if they had a prescription for them. Were those drugs easy to get without a prescription?
 

They were Beatles. Nothing was difficult to obtain. To mere mortals like us it was/is a different story.

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What Beatle has the highest pitched speaking voice? The lowest? The second lowest? The second highest?

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Guessing, as one could only know by technical analysis, and voices change over the years, from lowest to highest I would suggest – Ringo, John, George, Paul.

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Anyone know the song John and Paul wrote for Cliff Richard? Probably seen it written before but I cant remember.

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Did a bunch of posts from this thread vanish?

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