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Miscellaneous questions about the Beatles
21 July 2015
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I’d love to own an electric guitar to play Beatles on it; even more, the SAME guitar John or George had 🙂

But I don’t know what is even affordable at this point. John’s Rickenbacker 325 is 2500$, which is crazy. I was looking at those Gretsch guitars but I don’t really know much about them – I just know I’d like to play something that sounds vintage – up to Hard Day’s night – sound. Rhythm and solo, as flexible as possible, just so it can sound like them. Anyone has any pointers? 

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Depending on how much you want to spend… George’s gretch are expensive as well… Tho i guess there must be models not as good as his up to 300 or 500€ But probably those won’t sound the same… Also the amp is important… Their amps were VoxAc30 , that will get you very close to their AHDN sound…

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Have you ever been into Abbey Road studio 2? Do you know if they ever let people in or something?… If so, how often , and how much would it be?… 

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And while I’m here, I’m curious: which of the Beatles’ albums is the best-selling? 

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@Shamrock Womlbs, check out this thread

As you will see in that thread, some folks have been to lectures in Studio 2. You could keep watching for another event to happen there. The cost would be the price of the ticket for the event.

Music is still recorded in Abbey Road Studios. If you have some music to record and can pay the fee (I don’t know how much it costs), that’s one way to get inside.

I’m on my phone right now so I can’t check it out properly, but there is a Google “street view” of the inside of the studios. http://www.abbeyroad.com/News/…..Abbey-Road

EDIT: I also see on their website that they rent the studios out for events several times a year. http://www.abbeyroad.com/Servi…..Event-Hire So, id you have $ but nothing to record, you could with that idea. Or, haha, find a way to get into one of those events.

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@Beatlebug Sgt. Pepper  is their best selling album, with estimated sales (es) of 32 million, and certified sales (cs) of 13.1 million. is second (es 31 million; cs 21.6 million). 3rd is Abbey Road  (es 30 million; cs 14.4 million).

However, sales figures for the ’60s are notoriously unreliable, even estimated ones.

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Hello I’m new here and we need some Beatle fans to settle a bar bet going on right now. The question that came up during drinks: “Who played bass guitar for The Fab Four only 4 times?” I said Stuart Sutcliffe. Brad says Paul McCartney. Our friend John said George Harrison.

Help settle our bet. Winner buys the drinks for the rest of the weekend. Thanks!

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I don’t know the answer, but I know Brad is one of the ones who might be buying the drinks.

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@The_Walrus_1234 Hi, welcome to the forum.

I’ll admit I know of no-one who only played bass four times.

Stuart Sutcliffe? He was the Beatles bassist during much of their Hamburg era, which involved well over a hundred gigs, though he never featured on any studio recording. Whatever, can’t be him.

Paul? He was the Beatles bassist. No one played bass on more of their recordings than Paul. That was/is his instrument. So not Paul. (Brad is so wrong!)

George? There is some dispute over how many times he played bass. These are his accepted bass parts however: Drive My Car , Back In The USSR Birthday Honey Pie Golden Slumbers Carry That Weight  and Old Brown Shoe . It has also been suggested that he was the bass player on Rock And Roll Music  and She Said She Said .

Which leaves us with John.

John comes closest to the figure of 4.

John played bass on 5 songs: Rocky Raccoon  (a bass duet with Paul), a six-string bass on Helter Skelter  and (along with bass parts from Paul and George) Back In The USSR , six-string bass again on Let It Be , and The Long And Winding Road .

Though this probably doesn’t give the answer you want, I hope it helps. Not that I can see it gives you a winner, as it seems none of you suggested John. John is, however, closest to 4.

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@The_Walrus_1234 Hi, welcome to the forum.

I’ll admit I know of no-one who only played bass four times.

Stuart Sutcliffe? He was the Beatles bassist during much of their Hamburg era, which involved well over a hundred gigs, though he never featured on any studio recording. Whatever, can’t be him.

Paul? He was the Beatles bassist. No one played bass on more of their recordings than Paul. That was/is his instrument. So not Paul. (Brad is so wrong!)

George? There is some dispute over how many times he played bass. These are his accepted bass parts however: Drive My Car , Back In The USSR Birthday Honey Pie Golden Slumbers Carry That Weight  and Old Brown Shoe . It has also been suggested that he was the bass player on Rock And Roll Music  and She Said She Said .

Which leaves us with John.

John comes closest to the figure of 4.

John played bass on 5 songs: Rocky Raccoon  (a bass duet with Paul), a six-string bass on Helter Skelter  and (along with bass parts from Paul and George) Back In The USSR , six-string bass again on Let It Be , and The Long And Winding Road .

Though this probably doesn’t give the answer you want, I hope it helps. Not that I can see it gives you a winner, as it seems none of you suggested John. John is, however, closest to 4.

Thanks Mates! After about 20 mins on Wikipedia it looks like we were all wrong. Turns out it was Chas Newby. He played 4 gigs. 

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Ah! Didn’t even consider a two-week 1960 stand-in!

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I have a question for you.

A few years ago when I was still going the the Beatle Fest near Chicago, I saw a film clip of the Beatles (during prime of Beatlemania) receiving an award that looked like a microphone.  John the joker pretended to talk into the trophy like it was a real mike.

What was that award?  Where was it given?  Is there a film clip anywhere on the internet.

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Is this the video? Receiving Grammy awards for Help ! at Twickenham in 1965? Right near the end of the clip, John holds the trophy up like he is singing into it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=…..zObs-Rc-Jc

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Ron Nasty said
Which leaves us with John.

John comes closest to the figure of 4.

John played bass on 5 songs: Rocky Raccoon  (a bass duet with Paul), a six-string bass on Helter Skelter  and (along with bass parts from Paul and George) Back In The USSR , six-string bass again on Let It Be , and The Long And Winding Road .

There is an argument for him playing even more according to Ken Scott. Scott says there was often more than one bass player on White Album tracks that he engineered, just not credited as such, citing both George and John, John particularly on George’s songs.

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Thanks for the response AG, but that’s not it.

The film footage I remember took place on stage in front of an audience. 

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OK. I’ll keep searching.

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I’ve been thinking about the Abbey Road zebra crossing a lot lately (in no small part due to the forum). I was wondering, did the Beatles ever cross there as a group prior to the cover shoot. For instance on their first visit to Abbey Road Studios on June 6, 1962 (thanks @Joe), what mode of transportation did they use? If they came by bus where would they have been dropped off? Would they have ever walked down Abbey Road together and crossed there maybe to go to dinner? I’ve read Lewisohn’s book The Complete Beatles Chronicle but can’t recall if the zebra crossing is mentioned except for the AR cover. 

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Great question, @sigh butterfly.

They would have been driven by Neil on their first visits, parking the van at the front of the building.

I’m fairly sure they would have all crossed the road together at some point prior to August 69, though I don’t think I’ve ever heard of an incident where it happened. And I think it would have been in the earliest days. They did photoshoots around Abbey Road back then which might well have involved using the crossing.

Once Beatlemania broke they were driven everywhere and mobbed by fans, so couldn’t easily pop outside for a mosey around London. The exception was Paul, who lived nearby (from 66) and walked to the studio most days, and who always retained a fondness for exploring on foot and using public transport. As a group they hardly ever went around in public unless they were sightseeing on holiday, in India etc.

I once heard a story of John and Yoko leaving the studio during the Plastic Ono Band albums sessions. IIRC they walked down Abbey Road for a few minutes (it’s a long road), and on their return John was thrilled with having actually gone outside and walked around without being bothered by fans. It’s quite a sad story really. If anyone else has heard it and can remember the source please let me know.

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Wouldn’t the day they recorded Birthday  be a possibility, @Joe? Walk ’round to Paul’s to watch The Girl Can’t Help It, walk back to the studio to record Birthday .

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It’s possible, but it doesn’t really make sense to me. If they went across the zebra crossing they’d have had to cross again at the monument, which would have drawn loads of attention to themselves. There are another two zebra crossings at the monument nowadays, though I don’t know if they were there in the 60s.

I think it’s more likely they’d have stayed on the studio side of the road, crossing somewhere on Grove End Road before heading up Circus Road to Cavendish Ave. Much less conspicuous.

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