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Piero Scaruffi Beatles Thoughts?
9 January 2017
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Randie
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Ron Nasty said
Isn’t the irony, @Randie, that by your app

roach to this subject, and to this forum, you’ve actually derailed this thread?

We’re not discussing Scaruffi’s opinion here anymore, but your response to it.

As I have said before, Scaruffi’s view of The Beatles doesn’t get any real traction here – as demonstrated by the fact there were only five responses to the OP in this thread before your first post on this subject on Saturday, and we’re now up to 60+, with a large percentage of those being yours.

Had you approached the subject anew, considered that Scaruffi’s don’t carry much (or any) weight here, and written something that took account of the fact you were not addressing a group of non-Beatles fans here, maybe the response you’ve got would have been very different.

Instead, you’ve assumed Scaruffi’s opinion is widely agreed with on this forum, and decided to educate us on the flaws in his argument. Most of us, if not all, could produce arguments of similar weight as yours against Scaruffi.

We just don’t see the point. We know his opinion is bullshit and move on.

Yes, you provided lots of information, but I certainly didn’t discover anything new in your posts.

It’s not that we’re not interested, but rather we have the same opinion of Scaruffi as you.

You seem to think his opinion carries more weight than it does, that it shapes the majority opinion of The Beatles. It doesn’t.

People will always have opinions, and people will always disagree with those opinions. On anything and everything. It’s what makes life interesting.

Why do you think it important to tear down his faulty assessment so fully sixteen years on? Are you hoping that, if you make the exact same arguments again and again, in multiple places, without any regard for the audience you’re addressing, Scaruffi will change his opinion?

Not going to happen. Sorry. He has his opinion, and he’s entitled to it.

Peace and love.  

Ron Nasty said
Isn’t the irony, @Randie, that by your approach to this subject, and to this forum, you’ve actually derailed this thread?

We’re not discussing Scaruffi’s opinion here anymore, but your response to it.

As I have said before, Scaruffi’s view of The Beatles doesn’t get any real traction here – as demonstrated by the fact there were only five responses to the OP in this thread before your first post on this subject on Saturday, and we’re now up to 60+, with a large percentage of those being yours.

Had you approached the subject anew, considered that Scaruffi’s don’t carry much (or any) weight here, and written something that took account of the fact you were not addressing a group of non-Beatles fans here, maybe the response you’ve got would have been very different.

Instead, you’ve assumed Scaruffi’s opinion is widely agreed with on this forum, and decided to educate us on the flaws in his argument. Most of us, if not all, could produce arguments of similar weight as yours against Scaruffi.

We just don’t see the point. We know his opinion is bullshit and move on.

Yes, you provided lots of information, but I certainly didn’t discover anything new in your posts.

It’s not that we’re not interested, but rather we have the same opinion of Scaruffi as you.

You seem to think his opinion carries more weight than it does, that it shapes the majority opinion of The Beatles. It doesn’t.

People will always have opinions, and people will always disagree with those opinions. On anything and everything. It’s what makes life interesting.

Why do you think it important to tear down his faulty assessment so fully sixteen years on? Are you hoping that, if you make the exact same arguments again and again, in multiple places, without any regard for the audience you’re addressing, Scaruffi will change his opinion?

Not going to happen. Sorry. He has his opinion, and he’s entitled to it.

Peace and love.  

Because as I posted already Scaruffi’s outright *lies* not his opinion are constantly still being quoted everywhere as the truth,by By ignorant Beatles haters who call The Beatles an overrated,talentless boy band.And unbelievably and incomprehensibly there were several members on here saying they agree with a lot of what he wrote and one member actually said that my information doesn’t refute what Scaruffi wrote that The Beatles were talentless but had enormous success.

 

 And because if you would please read this blog post by this guy debunking what Scaruffi wrote, you will hopefully see that the guy does a great job demonstrating that it isn’t that Scaruffi just wrote his opinion,that he actually tells flat out countless lies as if they are facts and that there is a lot there is evidence to disprove them.

 
I recently found this great blog post by a guitar player and musically academically knowledgeable guy debunking the totally ignorant,ludicrous hateful lies by cognitive scientist and music critic Piero Scaruffi about The Beatles that ignorant Beatles haters calling them a talentless boy band,are quoting on so many sites for many years now and still are.
 
 
 
 
 
 
On a heavy metal site someone posted Scaruffi’s horrible inaccurate bullsh*t about The Beatles and a guy said that Scaruffi made up contrived bullsh*t about The Beatles and that a lot of people think he knows what he’s talking about because he’s a cognitive scientist.Many people elsewhere have said that Scaruffi just made up most of this bullsh*t,he made all of it up,the only facts he got right are John,Paul,George,Ringo,George Martin and Brian Epstein’s names.
 
 
 
I actually emailed this idiot Scaruffi back in 2001 to try to debunk his ignorant lies about The Beatles,and he emailed me back three times,and I was civil to him,(which wasn’t easy,and I had to control myself from not cursing him,but I know that wasn’t going to work to get through to him) and he was civil to me too,but you just can’t get through to him.He actually said that he thought I’m one of the most intelligent Beatles fans he ever communicated with because I never mentioned The Beatles record sales as to why they are great and he actually claimed that this all the majority of Beatles fans said to him,that they sold the most records,which he denies that they did in his horrid article. I don’t believe him at all I’m sure that a lot of knowledgeable fans did inform him of a lot of  academic and music scholarship that debunks his stupid,horrible lies but he just doesn’t want to recognize it because he irrationally hates The Beatles.
 
 
 
9 January 2017
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Haven’t we been here before and are now going in circles whilst repeating the same posts?

 

@Randie. Nobody here buys into the bullshit of the original article, the only person intent on going on about it is you. Take a breather, take a break and then come back and contribute elsewhere.

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9 January 2017
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meanmistermustard said
Haven’t we been here before and are now going in circles whilst repeating the same posts?  

Well I shouldn’t have had to post the same information again but I also posted new posts now.

9 January 2017
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meanmistermustard said
Haven’t we been here before and are now going in circles whilst repeating the same posts?

 

@Randie. Nobody here buys into the bullshit of the original article, the only person intent on going on about it is you. Take a breather, take a break and then come back and contribute elsewhere.  

 

That’s not what several of your members said,they actually incomprehensibly did say they bought into a lot of his lies.And how would I come back and contribute elsewhere? That doesn’t make any sense. But please just cancel my account now,I looked for options to do it but I don’t see any.

 

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9 January 2017
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You don’t need to debunk this any long er, plenty of other things to debunk, like you could head over to the Paul is Dead thread, we need your vast information to disprove that. More people believe that than this.

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9 January 2017
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Randie said

 

That’s not what several of your members said,they actually incomprehensibly did say they bought into a lot of his lies.And how would I come back and contribute elsewhere? That doesn’t make any sense. But please just cancel my account now,I looked for options to do it but I don’t see any.

 

Thanks  

You could just not post instead of having your account cancelled, it’s quite easy to do and takes very little effort.

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OK, I’m locking this thread now. It’s going nowhere, everyone’s getting fed up, and Randie’s copying and pasting a load of stuff from other forums. Time to call time.

@Randie, you asked here (and via PM) for your account to be closed. I can’t do that, because it would remove your comments and leave a lot of lopsided conversations that no longer made sense. But as a compromise I’ve removed your posting rights and made your account read-only. Let it be.

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