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Piero Scaruffi Beatles Thoughts?
6 January 2017
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 Their lack of talent? I’m speechless! All of my strong great information does totally refute Scaruffi’s totally inaccurate ignorant bullsh*t,but I really shouldn’t need to do that on a Beatles fan forum.  

But how does that specific post disprove the The Beatles were not talented? you can take anything successful and make money and a career off them, not talent required.  

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 Their lack of talent? I’m speechless! All of my strong great information does totally refute Scaruffi’s totally inaccurate ignorant bullsh*t,but I really shouldn’t need to do that on a Beatles fan forum.  

But how does that specific post disprove the The Beatles were not talented? you can take anything successful and make money and a career off them, not talent required.

 The things you are saying are really unbelievable and unbelievably ignorant even for a non Beatles fan!  I gave plenty of strong great examples which I really shouldn’t have to give,and countless rock music critics,many accomplished music academic scholars,countless well known successful rock and other types of music artists widely recognize how creative,innovative,diverse,prolific and extraordinarily talented they were especially John Lennon and Paul McCartney really were and many call The Beatles the greatest band ever and call John and Paul the two greatest song writers of the 20th century even over their own bands and solo selves.What you are saying only applies to true untalented,boy bands who don’t even play their own instruments,much less be very good musicians as The Beatles were,and they don’t even write their own music much less already write hits for other artists like John and Paul were as early as 1963 just when their own song writing success was getting Off The Ground etc.And I really shouldn’t have to explain this to you at all.

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Thx for all the info @Randie. All those videos and links will keep me busy for a while.

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6 January 2017
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What Ron Nasty said.

Can you condense things down into a medium-length post (approx. 4-6 paragraphs)? It’s very clear you’re passionate on the subject but I don’t think you can expect anyone to read that much from one person.

 

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6 January 2017
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In 1964 The Rolling Stones wrote and recorded a Rice Krispies TV commercial jingle not something cool like a cigarette ad and they also had teen girls screaming at their early concerts.Maybe The Rolling Stones should be called a boy band too.I’m pretty certain The Beatles never wrote and recorded a jingle for a cereal TV commercial.

 

http://www.snopes.com/the-roll…..es-jingle/

6 January 2017
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Many people on different message boards have said the only Rolling Stones song they like is Paint It Black, my first cousin who is a head hunter helping people find jobs,she used to an accountant,and when she was 21 a huge Rolling Stones fan in 1978 she also had The Beatles Revolver album in her bedroom.
 
 
When The Rolling Stones did their Steel Wheels tour in 1989 I asked her if she still liked The Rolling Stones and she said no,but the same year at her wedding shower my male and female cousins were talking about The Beatles who we all love,and my cousin said Oh  I love The Beatles.
 
 
And when I was going to Paul McCartney live for the first time in 1990 and I was very excited about it,I was going on about how great he,John and The Beatles were and she said OK,I said you said you love The Beatles too and she said hey bottom line they were geniuses!
 
 
And  I once heard a radio host who was a former rock DJ and he said The Beatles are really like the only music artists who have just about every song they did was great and wasn’t great was still good. He said even their album tracks that weren’t released as singles.
 
 
And many people have said it’s The Rolling Stones albums that have just a handful of very good songs and the rest is filler.
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AppleScruffJunior said
What Ron Nasty said.

Can you condense things down into a medium-length post (approx. 4-6 paragraphs). It’s very clear you’re passionate on the subject but I don’t think you can expect anyone to read that much from one person.  

Sorry,but no I have a lot of strong important information to debunk this ignorant sh*t that unfortunately continues to be constantly quoted by a lot of ignorant Beatles haters who ludicrously,ignorantly call The Beatles an overrated talentless boy band.

6 January 2017
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Thx for all the info @Randie. All those videos and links will keep me busy for a while.  

Thank you Smamrock Wombs, I really hope you eventually read and watch it all.

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Randie said
Sorry,but no I have a lot of strong important information to debunk this ignorant sh*t that unfortunately continues to be constantly quoted by a lot of ignorant Beatles haters who ludicrously,ignorantly call The Beatles an overrated talentless boy band.  

Then explain how the post I quoted is relevant to Scaruffi’s paper?

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

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6 January 2017
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Starr Shine? said
Piero Scaruffi I don’t think ever mentioned One Direction or modern bands in his criticism. Also, One Direction aren’t relevant anymore.  

Starr Shine? said
Piero Scaruffi I don’t think ever mentioned One Direction or modern bands in his criticism. Also, One Direction aren’t relevant anymore.  

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Ridiculous waste of your time and energy, @Randie.

Double posters generally apologise, and you’ve just written a fecking book.

Sorry, ain’t no way I’m piling through all that posted at once to find if there’s anything interesting you’ve buried in giving way too much information in one go.

Posting a dozen+ (mainly long) posts in one thread in less than half-hour is ridiculous overload.  

Your very welcome. I was trying to debunk this horrible,inaccurate,hateful,ignorant nonsense that Scaruffi wrote that is unfortunately constantly quoted by ignorant Beatles haters who ludicrously,ignorantly constantly call The Beatles an overrated talentless boy band. I posted a lot of strong important information debunking Scaruffi’s countless lies about The Beatles which I would have really thought and hoped would be wanted and appreciated on a Beatles fan site.

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You are using the some of the same arguments you have used before. How do I know you even read the article? You could just be copying and pasting the same message you always use for anyone who has any criticism of the Beatles.

I suggest instead if you really want to show the Beatles are great is to respond to specific points in Scaruffi’s paper with one post. Your argument will be much stronger otherwise, all your doing is spamming the same stuff over and over again and convincing no one.

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mcsugalumps started a new thread today with the same title as this thread. I moved that post to https://www.beatlesbible.com/f…..2/#p232636

Wow, two people bringing up the topic so close in time. Anyhoo.

@Randie, ie Randi Brooks, we can all see your write-ups in several places on the web.

http://www.guitarplayer.com/ar…..nces/58969

http://teamrock.com/feature/20…..ea-stadium

https://www.theguardian.com/mu…..aming-fans

Randie, do you want to make posts that contain an idea or two and then allow others to respond? If so, you may continue posting in this thread. If you do not want to comply with this mandate, then please do not waste our time. Thank you in advance.

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Starr Shine? said
You are using the some of the same arguments you have used before. How do I know you even read the article? You could just be copying and pasting the same message you always use for anyone who has any criticism of the Beatles.

I suggest instead if you really want to show the Beatles are great is to respond to specific points in Scaruffi’s paper with one post. Your argument will be much stronger otherwise, all your doing is spamming the same stuff over and over again and convincing no one.  

Glad you found those posts on other pages too. Good work, @Starr Shine?.

I wonder if Randie will be back.

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^ Surely has to be the fastest post count ever built up on this forum though, bloody hell!

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This is not the first time they have done this on the forum.

This could rival the race to the roof top posting speed.

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The ridiculous thing is that @Randie seems to believe there is a widely held belief among the members of this forum that The Rolling Stones were better. Have never needed to spend much time on this forum arguing that people here are getting it wrong when they say the Stones were better, because – hey ho! Beatles forum, not masses of arguments that they were a crap boy band compared to the Stones here.

I can count those discussions on about one finger…

…that I’ve just chopped off. a-hard-days-night-george-10

Point is, you’re preaching to the converted here, so there’s no need to show us how we’re under-appreciating our Boys because we really don’t.

Battle of the bands on here, Beatles vs. Stones, it’d easily be about 2-1.

Don’t know why, but lots of people here seem to like the Beatles and don’t need lecturing on why they should, and what makes them special.

Heard the record. Read the book. Drunk from the underwear. Worn the mug. (I was very drunk that day!)

You know, not just a talentless boy band?

At least a couple of us have sussed that!

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Personally I think The Beatles were rubbish and would like to subscribe to Randie’s newsletter to convince me otherwise

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What I learned from this thread: someone posts under the excellent name mcsugalumps.

 

That’s all.

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Video has been discovered of when Randie first read the Scaruffi piece.Image Enlarger

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I honestly don’t even think he read it.

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I recently found this great blog post by a guitar player and musically academically knowledgeable guy debunking the totally ignorant,ludicrous hateful lies by cognitive scientist and music critic Piero Scaruffi about The Beatles that ignorant Beatles haters calling them a talentless boy band,are quoting on so many sites for many years now and still are.
 
 
 
On a heavy metal site someone posted Scaruffi’s horrible inaccurate bullsh*t about The Beatles and a guy said that Scaruffi made up contrived bullsh*t about The Beatles and that a lot of people think he knows what he’s talking about because he’s a cognitive scientist.Many people elsewhere have said that Scaruffi just made up most of this bullsh*t,he made all of it up,the only facts he got right are John,Paul,George,Ringo,George Martin and Brian Epstein’s names.
 
 
I actually emailed this idiot Scaruffi back in 2001 to try to debunk his ignorant lies about The Beatles,and he emailed me back three times,and I was civil to him,(which wasn’t easy,and I had to control myself from not cursing him,but I know that wasn’t going to work to get through to him) and he was civil to me too,but you just can’t get through to him.He actually said that he thought I’m one of the most intelligent Beatles fans he ever communicated with because I never mentioned The Beatles record sales as to why they are great and he actually claimed that this all the majority of Beatles fans said to him,that they sold the most records,which he denies that they did in his horrid article. I don’t believe him at all I’m sure that a lot of knowledgeable fans did inform him of a lot of  academic and music scholarship that debunks his stupid,horrible lies but he just doesn’t want to recognize it because he irrationally hates The Beatles and he wants everyone else to hate them to.
 
 
 
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