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John's & Paul's childhood homes
31 January 2010
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How many have been lucky enough to go here: http://www.nationaltrust.org.u…..eatles.htm

I went a few years back and it was an unbelievable experience.  To actually be in the rooms they lived, slept, ate, WROTE AND SANG in was amazing. The tour guides were quite good (I expected them to be a bit OTT) and I guess the only big downer was that you weren't allowed to take photos inside, although you could outside……but then only from the front!

Of all the attractions in Liverpool, this has to be the best.

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I've never been. I really must. I've not been to Liverpool since the mid 1990s when I was applying for a university place (I didn't get in – how life might have been different…), apart from my stag night in 2006, which was more of a drinking spree than a cultural awakening Laugh

Your description of being there sounds a lot like how I felt inside Studio Two at Abbey Road last year. There's a real sense of history with some of these places.

I've taken the Magical Mystery Tour tourist coach trip around Liverpool, to Strawberry Fields, Penny Lane and so on, and I'm pretty sure it went down Menlove Avenue and Forthlin Road. At the time the National Trust didn't own the houses so there wasn't much to see – we were discouraged from bothering the people who lived there.

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31 January 2010
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Joe said:

Your description of being there sounds a lot like how I felt inside Studio Two at Abbey Road last year. There's a real sense of history with some of these places.


Joe I cannot tell you how envious I am of you going there.  I was only thinking the other day – if there is one place in the world I'd love to go and see then this is the place! Sadly getting in is as good as impossible I would imagine………. I've been outside quite a few times, but that's it.

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31 January 2010
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Joe said:

I've never been. I really must. I've not been to Liverpool since the mid 1990s when I was applying for a university place (I didn't get in – how life might have been different…), apart from my stag night in 2006, which was more of a drinking spree than a cultural awakening Laugh

I've taken the Magical Mystery Tour tourist coach trip around Liverpool, to Strawberry Fields, Penny Lane and so on, and I'm pretty sure it went down Menlove Avenue and Forthlin Road. At the time the National Trust didn't own the houses so there wasn't much to see – we were discouraged from bothering the people who lived there.


Oh you have to go! How long from home – about a three hour drive?

Stay the night here (http://www.blenheimlakesidehotel.co.uk/)  in the house where Stu Sutcliffe used to live. I have stayed there and it's not far out of the centre. There is so much to see and do as you well know. Surely you need a break from all your writing, so take the camera and go for it Laugh

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31 January 2010
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And if you ever do Joe, maybe i'll see you in The Grapes to buy you a pint to say thanks for the site. I haven't been on the official tours in Liverpool but when i was about fifteen i spent a few weeks travelling to parts of Liverpool i'd never been to take photographs of their various houses and birthplaces and places of interest like the Jacaranda. I've still got the set of photos with my handwritten descriptions on the back. That must have been 1985!

I'll have to check out that house Stu lived in. Ive never been there 

Onward my friends, and glory for the thirty ninth!!

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Wow, thanks both. I'll definitely bear in mind the Sutcliffe house tip (looks like they were quite a well-off family). My wife recently suggested we go to Liverpool – she's not a major Beatles nut but likes to see me happy! I think she looked at getting a room at the Hard Day's Night Hotel but it seemed overpriced and didn't get great reviews. We'll probably go for a drink at the bar if we're passing though.

As you say, Liverpool's only a few hours away so there's really no excuse. I'd also like to stay at the Gate House in Portmeirion, which looks amazing: http://www.portmeirion-village…..38;pID=117

I don't think this is particularly well-known among Beatles fans. I stumbled upon it by accident when we were thinking of going to Portmeirion.

The Grapes – I had a pint there in the 1990s. I went along on my own and sat in the corner drinking up the atmosphere. Some of the locals started chatting to me, which was a strange experience for a city-dwelling southerner. Friendly place, Liverpool.

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Joe said:

Wow, thanks both. I'll definitely bear in mind the Sutcliffe house tip (looks like they were quite a well-off family). My wife recently suggested we go to Liverpool – she's not a major Beatles nut but likes to see me happy! I think she looked at getting a room at the Hard Day's Night Hotel but it seemed overpriced and didn't get great reviews. We'll probably go for a drink at the bar if we're passing though.

As you say, Liverpool's only a few hours away so there's really no excuse. I'd also like to stay at the Gate House in Portmeirion, which looks amazing: http://www.portmeirion-village…..mp;pID=117

I don't think this is particularly well-known among Beatles fans. I stumbled upon it by accident when we were thinking of going to Portmeirion.

The Grapes – I had a pint there in the 1990s. I went along on my own and sat in the corner drinking up the atmosphere. Some of the locals started chatting to me, which was a strange experience for a city-dwelling southerner. Friendly place, Liverpool.


I've never heard of the Gate House. That's a good find!

I've had a few in the Grapes, but my mind goes a few doors away to Lennon's Bar. I was in there on a 'pilgrimage trip' around 1991 with a mate and Allan Williams was in there.  Now normally you'd be delighted to see someone with such a past connected to the Beatles but that wasn't the case. It was so obvious he was hanging around trying to tag along to people so they would buy him drinks and he'd had a few by then as well. As sad as it might seem, we as good as blanked him for it. He was a money-grabbing little bugger back in the late fifties / early sixties and he didn't appear to have changed Wink

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5 February 2010
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I was in Liverpool only once, the summer I graduated from high school… waaay back in the 80s. I got a private tour from Allan Williams. He used to drive people around in his Mini Cooper (or some such very small car) and tell these slightly bitter stories about the boys (especially Paul, from what I recall).

He drove us to Menlove Avenue, but not Forthlin Road… but now that both homes are open to the public, I'm going to have to make a pilgrimage! I mean, it's got to be the most spine-tingling experience for one of us lot.

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iCaramba said:

I was in Liverpool only once, the summer I graduated from high school… waaay back in the 80s. I got a private tour from Allan Williams. He used to drive people around in his Mini Cooper (or some such very small car) and tell these slightly bitter stories about the boys (especially Paul, from what I recall).

He drove us to Menlove Avenue, but not Forthlin Road… but now that both homes are open to the public, I'm going to have to make a pilgrimage! I mean, it's got to be the most spine-tingling experience for one of us lot.


Crikey! I bet he didn't do it for free though Laugh

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5 February 2010
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It's about number 4 on my things to do before I bite the dust, admittedly! I would make the pilgrimage right now, but I don't think my parents would be too fond of the idea of their seventeen year-old daughter trekking around “dirty England.” Yell

Maybe I'll do it purely for spite! 😉

But, really, I can't wait to venture into Liverpool. I think I may want to do it on my own too; I think it's something I'd like to see on my own. I'm honestly anticipating a life change once I arrive, just by standing in two once inhabited houses. Wow. I shudder in glee just thinking about it. Let's hope age 21 comes quick like the dickens!

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Alissa said:

“dirty England.” Yell


What DO you mean young lady – we all wash over here you know LaughLaughLaugh

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We're very clean, y'know.

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Edit: yep, I know he was Irish. It just seemed right somehow.

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mjb said:

Alissa said:

“dirty England.” Yell


What DO you mean young lady – we all wash over here you know LaughLaughLaugh


Oh, no no no! Not my point of view, mind you, my very close-minded mother!
She would absolutely cringe at the thought of me straying anywhere from Canada, though I intend to go Here, There And Everywhere myself 😀 

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You should start with Amsterdam or Las Vegas. That way England will seem like Amish country in comparison. 😉

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skye said:You should start with Amsterdam or Las Vegas. That way England will seem like Amish country in comparison. 😉


I don't know skye, I can think of a few places here that would put them to shame!

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Oh, I'm sure there are, but we don't want to give her mother a heart attack! Besides, if she goes to Vegas, I could drive up and we could see Love together. 🙂

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skye said:Oh, I'm sure there are, but we don't want to give her mother a heart attack! Besides, if she goes to Vegas, I could drive up and we could see Love together. 🙂


I'll get right on it, Skye, as long as I can avoid any aneurisms for me ol' fragile mum, we'll be a-okay 😉

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8 February 2010
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As a new member of this site (and probably the oldest!) I would like to say that my trip to Liverpool was the highlight of my life.  You see, I am one of the original “Beatlemaniacs” of the 60’s and I said to myself waaay back then that someday I will go to Liverpool and see the sights.  Luckily for me, my dream did come true when my husband and I came to England, London, and drove up to Liverpool.  Naturally we took the Beatles tour and I really enjoyed it.  It was a very surreal time for me to actually be in Liverpool and to look at their homes in real life. At that time, the Lennon and McCartney homes were not yet part of the National Trust, but it still was a big deal for me to see the homes of all 4 Beatles even though it was from a bus window!  I’m hoping that we can make one more trip to England and I have hopes to take the new Lennon/McCartney tour and stay at the Hard Day’s Night Hotel (I too have not seen very positive reviews, but I’m gonna stay there anyway!)  So if you’re English, take the time to see the sights before they are gone and you regret not doing it.  For the younger members, you’ll get there if you really put your mind to it.  It took me 40 years to get to Liverpool, but I never gave up the thought and I always, always remained a faithful fan of the Beatles.

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Alissa – Hehe. I'm sure you will. What happens in Vegas, etc. etc.

paulie – 40 years? At least it seemed to live up to your expectations. I'll have to apply for my passport; maybe I could visit within a  decade.

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Im from Liverpool and its really nice to read all the positive comments on this site about the city and how much people enjoyed being there. I have been working in Brisbane Australia for six months and as lovely as it is, i can't wait to get home next month.

I always felt really lucky being able to visit the Beatles sites whenever i wanted and spending most saturday nights in Mathew St! I have walked down that street hundreds of times but i still get that buzz of being somewhere really special every time i do. You can never walk down there without having to stop to let tourists take a photo next to the John Lennon statue outside the Cavern. I always offer to take the photo so everyone can get in on it.

Its a far from perfect place but for anyone who's a big Beatles fan i'd totally recommend trying to get there. If you soak up the atmosphere, You will really feel what its was like for the boys to have grown up there

I don't work for the Liverpool tourist board by the way!! I'm just proud of the city      

Onward my friends, and glory for the thirty ninth!!

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