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mr. Sun king coming together
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29 January 2011 - 8.24pm

Blue Nicey said:

For the record, I’m actually pro-Yoko, but I definitely get why people blame her for the breakup.


Could It be because they always need a scapegoat?

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29 January 2011 - 8.27pm

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

 He wrote several songs for or about Yoko, but he wrote nothing for or about Cynthia, unless you count "Good Night" for Julian. 

Without Cynthia, He Doesn't write Nowhere Man, Good Morning Good Morning, Run For Your Life and Girl, just to name a few


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29 January 2011 - 8.28pm

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

Blue Nicey said:

It just sounded slutty in comparision to everyone else’s noble thoughts of going back in time to save John or get rid of Yoko. 


Hey. Getting rid of Yoko is not noble.
 

*the 9 proves my point*


I think all she means is that it's a widely held (which doesn't mean it's right) opinion that without Yoko, the Beatles would still have been together for much longer and with less angst, and so noble here in this case means "for the greater good" in terms of lengthening or preserving the Beatles storyline. Whereas going back in time for the express purpose of getting a Beatle alone with you wouldn't exactly be called a *selfless* act by any means.

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29 January 2011 - 8.30pm

mr. Sun king coming together said:

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

 He wrote several songs for or about Yoko, but he wrote nothing for or about Cynthia, unless you count "Good Night" for Julian. 

Without Cynthia, He Doesn't write Nowhere Man, Good Morning Good Morning, Run For Your Life and Girl, just to name a few



Yeah, but doesn't that go all out the window with "Norwegian Wood"?

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MeanMrsMustard
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29 January 2011 - 8.30pm

Wait. "Girl" and "Run For Your Life" are for Cynthia?

Also, "Nowhere Man" and "Good Morning Good Morning" weren't really about/for Cynthia. They were a pessimistic self portrait and a song that took its title from an ad for cornflakes, and John could have gotten his domestic experience from any other marriage. 

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mr. Sun king coming together
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29 January 2011 - 8.32pm

Girl- A tale telling an unnamed (Cynthia) party to save him.

RFYL- Telling Cynthia not to be unfaithful, or Else!

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29 January 2011 - 8.32pm

Yep, exactly, StarWisher!

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29 January 2011 - 8.33pm

Those sound more like individual interpretations. (Well, maybe not the "Run For Your Life" one. That sounds pretty accurate.) Anyway, "Girl" and "Run For Your Life" are two songs I, for one, could definitely do without.

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29 January 2011 - 8.34pm

No, because that shows what he wants, not what he Has.

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29 January 2011 - 8.37pm

To go slightly off-topic, I don’t get why a lot of people aren’t big fans of “Run For Your Life.” I love that song! Woot, Team RFYL!

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29 January 2011 - 8.37pm

StarWisher said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

 He wrote several songs for or about Yoko, but he wrote nothing for or about Cynthia, unless you count "Good Night" for Julian. 

Without Cynthia, He Doesn't write Nowhere Man, Good Morning Good Morning, Run For Your Life and Girl, just to name a few



Yeah, but doesn't that go all out the window with "Norwegian Wood"?
 

Starwisher! That deserves an apple! apple01

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29 January 2011 - 8.37pm

MeanMrs.Mustard said:

Those sound more like individual interpretations. (Well, maybe not the "Run For Your Life" one. That sounds pretty accurate.) Anyway, "Girl" and "Run For Your Life" are two songs I, for one, could definitely do without.


John said the following about Girl: It wasn't just a song, and it was about that girl - that turned out to be Yoko, in the end - the one that a lot of us were looking for. Also, don't forget my new and Improved Run For Your Life!

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29 January 2011 - 8.39pm

Blue Nicey said:

To go slightly off-topic, I don’t get why a lot of people aren’t big fans of “Run For Your Life.” I love that song! Woot, Team RFYL!


The Lyrics are a little to graphic for our tastes

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29 January 2011 - 8.40pm

I think Yoko could have saved him from Cynthia, another (hypothetical) dead-end marriage, or any other situation. 

Blue Nicey said:

To go slightly off-topic, I don’t get why a lot of people aren’t big fans of “Run For Your Life.” I love that song! Woot, Team RFYL!


My dislike of that song boils down to the lyrics. If you substitute Zig's version of the lyrics (see the "Run For Your Life" thread), it's really fun to sing along to. 

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mr. Sun king coming together
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29 January 2011 - 8.42pm

What about My substitute Lyrics? Aren't They Fun?

*Pouts*

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29 January 2011 - 8.45pm

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Girl- A tale telling an unnamed (Cynthia) party to save him.


Am I the only one who thinks that interpretation's not quite it? To say the least?

PS -- Thanks for the apple, Mrs. M. It'll go nicely with my lunch.

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29 January 2011 - 8.47pm

He needs to be saved, and I sure bet He would have Cynthia to be the saviour.

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29 January 2011 - 8.52pm

mr. Sun king coming together said:

What about My substitute Lyrics? Aren't They Fun?

*Pouts*


They don't have (CHOCOLATE!) in them. 😀

StarWisher said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Girl- A tale telling an unnamed (Cynthia) party to save him.


Am I the only one who thinks that interpretation's not quite it? To say the least?

PS -- Thanks for the apple, Mrs. M. It'll go nicely with my lunch.


1. No. No you're not.

2. You're welcome. What are you having for lunch? 

3. 9!

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29 January 2011 - 8.56pm

God, I'm already thinking about my supper. Strange days indeed

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29 January 2011 - 8.57pm

We're seriously derailing this thread! Ah, what else is new around here? 😀

1) I always got the sense that the song was about a relationship that was in some ways not fulfilling him anymore, but while she's nasty to his friends and cuts him down, he still loves her, or at least is too comfortable being with someone than to be alone, or recognizes she is manipulating him but what can he do? He knows it's not a perfect relationship, but maybe he's come to expect that relationships are *never* perfect.

2) It was this leftover spinach/pesto/tomato pizza from last night. Some combination of that. I threw away the box already, so am not too sure of all the ingredients. Definitely pesto and tomato. 

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