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The Beatles Trivia Race Off
19 July 2017
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Dark Overlord said
I hope you’re not mad at me for this but that’s incorrect, Her Majesty contains all 4 Beatles whereas Here Comes The Sun is missing John, you lose 200 points.

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Name the 2 studio albums with all songs performed by The Beatles that contain 13 tracks.  

@Dark Overlord.

Her Majesty ‘ is Paul solo. It contains the very end chord of ‘Mean Mr Mustard ‘ which has all four Beatles and the edit was rough so you hear the very end of that at the very beginning of ‘Her Majesty ‘ however ‘Her Majesty ‘ is Paul all alone on his guitar.

Joe’s article reads

The crashing guitar chord that opens Her Majesty is actually the final chord from a rough mix of Mean Mr Mustard . The song cuts off without the final note, meanwhile, because it was intended to segue into Polythene Pam .

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That was my thought process too. I knew you were trying to trick me with that one but if you listen to earlier forms of the medley with Her Majesty after MMM the chord is clearly a part of MMM with Paul beginning the take for Her Majesty later.

They didn’t record the song with all four playing the chord and then watching Paul record the rest of the song alone. 

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I know that, however since they didn’t remove it, i consider that closing chord from Mean Mr. Mustard to be part of Her Majesty . There are many songs that use edits similar to this, Strawberry Fields Forever comes to mind, so does the outro of Get Back , which was an edit piece of the live version despite the album version being recorded in the studio. Therefore i feel that the opening chord is part of the song.

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Additionally, the complete ‘Her Majesty ‘ has been booted and it’s clearly just Paul.

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Yay, tracklists, that’s the one thing I know! So, that’s the ones I could remember (Hopefully, I didn’t forget a song somewhere!): PPM (14), WTB(14), AHDN (13), RS(14), Revolver (14), SPLHCB (13), WA(30), AR(17) and since there are already two albums with 13 tracks, I’ll say A Hard Day’s Night and Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.

Not once does the diversity seem forced -- the genius of the record is how the vaudevillian "When I'm 64" seems like a logical extension of "Within You Without You" and how it provides a gateway to the chiming guitars of "Lovely Rita. - Stephen T. Erlewine on Sgt Pepper's

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Great job, you sure know your stuff, here’s the track numbers for all of The Beatles UK studio albums where all songs are performed by the band.

Please Please Me , With The Beatles , Beatles For Sale , Help !, Rubber Soul , Revolver (14)

A Hard Day’s Night , Sgt. Pepper ‘s Lonely Hearts Club Band (13)

The BEATLES (30)

Abbey Road (17)

Let It Be (12)

Yellow Submarine also has 13 tracks but i don’t consider it to be a Beatles album because not all of the tracks on it contain The Beatles.

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Dark Overlord said
I know that, however since they didn’t remove it, i consider that closing chord from Mean Mr. Mustard to be part of Her Majesty . There are many songs that use edits similar to this, Strawberry Fields Forever comes to mind, so does the outro of Get Back , which was an edit piece of the live version despite the album version being recorded in the studio. Therefore i feel that the opening chord is part of the song.  

Strawberry Fields Forever ‘ and ‘Get Back ‘ have edits but they are all of the same song, you cannot claim they are similar.

What you hear on ‘Her Majesty ‘ is the end chord of ‘Mean Mister Mustard’ followed by ‘Her Majesty ‘ which is missing the last chord, which is somewhere in ‘Polythene Pam ‘.

Read any book and they will tell you that ‘Her Majesty ‘ begins with the end of ‘Mean Mister Mustard’ – or you can just ignore that. 

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But isn’t the last chord of Mean Mr. Mustard the first chord of Her Majesty .

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Note that phrasing “the last chord of Mean Mr. Mustard” indicates that it is part of that song and that its inclusion at the beginning Her Majesty doesn’t mean that that it takes on the same personnel as Mean Mr. Mustard

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Dark Overlord said
But isn’t the last chord of Mean Mr. Mustard the first chord of Her Majesty .  

It is the last chord of ‘Mean Mister Mustard’, it just so happens to open ‘Her Majesty ‘. It retains the line up of all four Beatles playing whereas ‘Her Majesty ‘ is only Paul, it’s the mix that causes the issues with semantics.

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I understand what you’re saying, the first note of Her Majesty is actually the last note of Mean Mr. Mustard but i consider that note to be part of Her Majesty because the opening note takes up the same track spot as Her Majesty , it isn’t like they split the 1st not into it’s own track like they did with Queen’s Yeah and it isn’t even like they mention Mean Mr. Mustard in Her Majesty ‘s song title.

Overall, while it’s 100% true that The Beatles originally recorded this chord as part of Mean Mr. Mustard, i believe that it has become the opening note to Her Majesty .

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So are you now quizzing us on your own considerations or on Beatles knowledge?

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Its all good @Dark Overlord Let’s move on to the bext question. I’ll try again for 500. 

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I’d have to go with DO’s view, personally, as – though I know where it started life – as I also consider the crashing last chord of Mean Mr. Mustard as the opening of Her Majesty . They could have gone back and done a proper mix of take 3. They chose not to.

Even when they have had the chance to present it pure, they haven’t. When it was released as a DLC for The Beatles: Rock Band, they fixed the cut last note, but chose to leave the last chord of Mean. Mr Mustard in place:

So far as I’m concerned, whatever it started life as, it ended up as the intro to Her Majesty .

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But @Ron Nasty, does that technically mean that the people playing that chord count as personnel on Her Majesty

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i am not into this game at all but i think that questions that lead to subjective answers should not be valid

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No one is saying it’s not part of the song, it’s the breakdown of who plays what or doesn’t. As it is ‘Her Majesty ‘ is credited as Paul alone. Read anything and they say the same thing; go to wiki, Joe’s entry and further and they say it’s Paul on vocal and Paul on guitar, no John, George or Ringo; therefore DO’s answer is wrong. Unless we are going down the route of it’s someone’s opinion over the sources and if so what is the point of the questions?

The problem is the answer is subjective depending on semantics.

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As I’ve said, I consider it the intro to Her Majesty , so yes.

As they chose to release it, it definitely features all four Beatles; as it was recorded, which to me is a different thing, it features only Paul.

However, it is one of those things, like whether Can You Take Me Back is the end of Cry Baby Cry or the beginning of Revolution 9 , that differing opinions exist on.

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Ron Nasty said
As I’ve said, I consider it the intro to Her Majesty , so yes.

As they chose to release it, it definitely features all four Beatles; as it was recorded, which to me is a different thing, it features only Paul.

However, it is one of those things, like whether Can You Take Me Back is the end of Cry Baby Cry or the beginning of Revolution 9 , that differing opinions exist on.  

You consider it.

The sources credit it. 

In a quiz I’ll go with the sources not someone’s opinion.

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