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Beatles/Beach Boys influence on each other...
28 November 2015
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lillo78 said

Brian Wilson said he was much influenced by Rubber Soul for creating Pet Sounds, because he saw it like a big “whole” and all the songs seemed to come from the same place and stuff… So i was wondering, was he influenced by the US edition or he managed to get a UK copy? because they are so different in their track listing… 

Great question, @Shamrock Womlbs! I hope someone knows the answer. I’ll will do some searching to see if I can find out.

I thought your question fit really well in this thread. If you’d rather me move it back to its own thread, I will.

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A quick look around the internet says that it was the US version of the album. Due to the nature of the internet, I’m not going to say that is definitive though.

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Thanks @Ahhh Girl , i didn’t know this thread at all! It’s ok with me , it fits well here, yup! : )

 

Then, if it was the US version, the Capitol staff didn’t do it so bad in the end… It’s funny how a misinterpretation of a great album could lead to the creation of another fabulous album (pet sounds)  which later was an enormous inspiration to create the terrific Sgt. Peppers…

Antoher question could be: what would have been Brian’s reaction to the UK version?…

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So here it is the answer (from the book: Wouldn’t It Be Nice: Brian Wilson and the Making of the Beach Boys ‘ Pet Sounds)

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In Endless Harmony Doc, Mike tells different the story of Back In The USSR .

He says that Paul came with guitar singing the song and Mike Love says WOW It´s Great, and Paul answer i´m creating something in Beach Boys Style.

 

He not mentions the story of he suggested paul to write a Ussr version of a Chuck Berry Song

 

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My most-played rock ‘n roll album when I was about 6-7 years old (and indeed only owned about that many LPs, passed down from relatives) was “Best of The Beach Boys “, Capitol’s first BBs compilation. And yesterday I learned an interesting factoid about the album, according to Wikipedia:

The first version was released in the United States on July 5, 1966, two months after Pet Sounds. Another version of Best of The Beach Boys was issued in the United Kingdom on November 11, 1966, with a track listing that differed from the North American release.

Haha, never change, Capitol Records!: The American (and Canadian) version I grew up with had 12 songs, about 26 minutes worth, and skipped a few key singles in favour of album tracks. The version released in the UK is 14 songs, 33 minutes, and includes several more actual big hits (including two #1s!) that the American release skipped. Nice to know that Capitol records’ contempt for their U.S. market wasn’t confined to the Beatles’ releases…

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I have the UK version, pretty solid compilationa-hard-days-night-john-6 Volumes 2 and 3 have better UK track listings too IMO.

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Haha, you could combine the US and UK editions of that first volume and still be missing a few key singles from that 1962-66 era, such as “When I Grow Up” and “Dance Dance Dance”. Capitol Records sux!

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Dance Dance Dance might have been a groovy number back in the day but it has not aged that well considering the dance movements started by funk and disco musicians. Funny how that was a rocker and dance number back in its time when its quite tame to the modern ear. “When I Grow Up To Be A Man” on the other hand is an ageless masterpiece, a highlight of one of their greatest albums. 

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sir walter raleigh said
Dance Dance Dance might have been a groovy number back in the day but it has not aged that well considering the dance movements started by funk and disco musicians. Funny how that was a rocker and dance number back in its time when its quite tame to the modern ear. “When I Grow Up To Be A Man” on the other hand is an ageless masterpiece, a highlight of one of their greatest albums. 

  

Agree that “Dance x3” isn’t up to the level of “When I Grow Up”, just a fun little number that I mostly mentioned because of its absence. But I don’t think that the urge to dance to something fast turned up loud on the radio is a dated sentiment at all, no matter how many styles have come and gone (and come back) over the last century. And it’s not as though the BBs were James Brown’s Famous Flames or anything even at the time. “Dance Dance Dance” isn’t “dance music” as much as a song about dancing.

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When I saw Brian Wilson live in 2015, he introduced Girl Don’t Tell Me like this:

“I wrote this song for John Lennon .  That was when he was still alive.”

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Coincidentally, this show later in the week was going to be my first concert since Dec. 2019. Sadly my father-in-law passed and I don’t want to put the elderly relatives attending the funeral events on Sunday at risk. My neighbor promised to make a video of my favorite song.

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I’d also like to mention that there was an article in the Daily Mirror on what was in the Beatles’ respective jukeboxes in early 1966 I think.

There’s a single of the Beach Boys that never made it onto an album called “The Little Girl I Once Knew’.

If I remember correctly George had that single in his jukebox that he would bring on tour with him, along with the great ’65 single “California Girls (inspiration for Back In The USSR ?) coupled with the B side “Let Him Run Wild” (this is conjecture but some of the wall of harmonies on that track remind me a bit of stuff on the All Things Must Pass album).

In general a lot of the Beach Boys releases around that time like Pet Sounds, themselves heavily inspired by Phil Spector, remind me a bit of the ATMP album. Possibly George asked Phil to give the album that sort of “Wall of Soundy’ vibe that also is present in ATMP .

John didn’t have “The Little Girl I Once Knew” in his jukebox, but in an interview around the time, he really raved about it:

“This is the greatest! Turn it up, turn it right up. It’s GOT to be a hit. It’s the greatest record I’ve heard for weeks. It’s fantastic. I hope it will be a hit. It’s all Brian Wilson. He just uses the voices as instruments. He never tours or does anything. He just sits at home thinking up fantastic arrangements out of his head. Doesn’t even read music. You keep waiting for the fabulous breaks. Great arrangement. It goes on and on with all different things. I hope it’s a hit so I can hear it all the time.”

I read someone say that could have been a ghost writer, but I dunno, it sounds like something John would say imo.

I can’t think right now of any Beatles songs that could have been inspired by “TLGIOK” but I reckon I’ll find something if I delve deep enough. ‘I Want To Tell You ‘ has that sort of bounciness to it, but that could easily have come from something else.

We also know that Paul was a fan of ‘I Get Around’ as he included it as part of that joke Christmas radio he did in ’65. And obviously he loves ‘God Only Knows’.

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Brian is also quote fond of that song, here he is talking about it as an older man. The drum breaks and the key changes are very Beach Boys -ey, but I also feel like theres a Beatles song out there with traces of TLGIOK in it. Can’t put my finger on it right now though. 

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