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Beatles: Rock Band
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Even though I hadn’t picked up the actual electric guitar to practice in about a week, I tried a few songs on Hard in Beatles Rock Band. I actually made it through a few. Real guitar learning is kind of helping my playing, even after skipping it for a few days and here I thought it would spoil it. a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

The song title even makes sense as I’m seeing some improvement from last time I attempted any song on Hard.  That orange button pretty much forces you out of the 4-fingers = 4-buttons comfort zone, where you have to move your hand a tad. You know, like a teeny tiny step out of it. Even if this is one of THE easiest songs in the game =)

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So, somehow I ranked 0th on a non-existent leader board and don’t have to beat anybody, even though my score could have been higher. Hope they’re not killing the scoreboards for this game already…a-hard-days-night-ringo-1120160912_003216.jpgImage Enlarger

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I can’t play this anymore because the bass isn’t in sync with the tv. I’ve tried to fix it, but it’s still a little off. ):

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said
I can’t play this anymore because the bass isn’t in sync with the tv. I’ve tried to fix it, but it’s still a little off. ):  

That’s the issue with my Vizio TV, which had a horrible amount of lag up until a couple months ago when I discovered it had a “Fast Response” setting while the Picture is in Game Mode. (It actually resulted in me putting the rhythm games away for half a year.) Either I just didn’t dig quite deep enough or I was just incredibly lazy.

It’s a lot easier to sync, and if you have the Fender Strat controller, it may have the auto-calibrate feature, which is awesome. I could pass along the settings I have configured for Beatles Rock Band if you want to try those numbers. It seems you have to calibrate each game seperately (the numbers for BRB/RB3/RB2/GH5 are all different  – I’m guessing because each game uses a different rendering engine or something.) It also helps to turn off any SmoothMotion/TruMotion type features as those throw off the sync as well. Makes movies look absolutely beautiful but anything interactive like a Rock Band or Guitar Hero game gets fudged up really bad. Let me know if any of this info helps! ^^

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Midori78 said

Little Piggy Dragonguy said
I can’t play this anymore because the bass isn’t in sync with the tv. I’ve tried to fix it, but it’s still a little off. ):  

That’s the issue with my Vizio TV, which had a horrible amount of lag up until a couple months ago when I discovered it had a “Fast Response” setting while the Picture is in Game Mode. (It actually resulted in me putting the rhythm games away for half a year.) Either I just didn’t dig quite deep enough or I was just incredibly lazy.

It’s a lot easier to sync, and if you have the Fender Strat controller, it may have the auto-calibrate feature, which is awesome. I could pass along the settings I have configured for Beatles Rock Band if you want to try those numbers. It seems you have to calibrate each game seperately (the numbers for BRB/RB3/RB2/GH5 are all different  – I’m guessing because each game uses a different rendering engine or something.) It also helps to turn off any SmoothMotion/TruMotion type features as those throw off the sync as well. Makes movies look absolutely beautiful but anything interactive like a Rock Band or Guitar Hero game gets fudged up really bad. Let me know if any of this info helps! ^^  

I’m actually away at school now, so I can’t figure it out, but when I go home for Christmas or summer I’ll try to figure it out. Thanks for the advice!

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said

I’m actually away at school now, so I can’t figure it out, but when I go home for Christmas or summer I’ll try to figure it out. Thanks for the advice!  

No problem, whenever you get around to playing just poke me for the calibration numbers. I don’t see myself ever quitting the game (besides taking breaks of course) or selling it so it’s not going anywhere =) a-hard-days-night-ringo-10

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Little Piggy Dragonguy said
I can’t play this anymore because the bass isn’t in sync with the tv. I’ve tried to fix it, but it’s still a little off. ):  

Are you using HDMI for audio? Try using a separate audio cable from the console to the TV as HDMI is a notorious cause of audio lag.

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Yeah, my Vizio would lag behind at least a half second or more. Rhythm games are unplayable unless I have Fast Response on. I was about to go looking for a replacement for my TV, actually. I don’t have to buy a new TV now. Saves me a bunch of moneys. =)

If my HDTV has SPDIF/Toslink-out only, and that goes to a digital to analog audio box, which then finally goes to my speakers, and I can fix the lag with Rock Band, I think anyone can do it. =D

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I thought I’d give a review of The Beatles Rock Band before asking a question:

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Pros:

Game can be enjoyable.

Well thought out for the most part.

Doesn’t make you play other bands music, this is Beatles and nothing else.

Cons:

The guitars that they made for this game are based of the guitars they used on Please Please Me , a Hofner for Paul, a Rickenbacker for John, and a Duo Jet for George. I think it would’ve been better to base off the Beatley Rock Band controllers off of instruments they used in their later era, especially considering many Beatles fans including myself believe that they got better with each album, I think they should’ve used John’s sanded down Casino, George’s Lucy, and Paul’s Hofner.

They got this game a T rating despite the fact that The Beatles are essentially The Wiggles of the 1960’s, I would gladly let a baby listen to anything by The Beatles.

They left out several classic songs such as All My Loving , She Loves You , Help !, Yesterday , Nowhere Man (eventually added in DLC), We Can Work It Out , Eleanor Rigby , Strawberry Fields Forever , Penny Lane , Hey Jude , and Let It Be .

You are not allowed to play these songs in any other Rock Band game.

DLC is no longer up for download.

They didn’t include the option to choose what instrument model to use during a specific song, which sucks considering sometimes they use the wrong instrument model in a song and lots of guitars remain unused, such as George’s 345 or John’s Strat that although is in the game’s code never gets used.

And my biggest complaint:

Only The Beatles are seen playing, no George Martin, no Billy Preston, no Eric Clapton, just John, Paul, George, and Ringo. This is a shame because these musicians don’t get any credit in the game despite being a major part of the song, such as Billy Preston’s importance during the rooftop despite him not being there in the game or how in the game George plays the solo to While My Guitar Gently Weeps instead of Eric, this especially is sad during the piano solo of In My Life where The Beatles are just walking around a field instead of showing George Martin playing the solo.

Overall, I give this game 3 stars, take it or leave it.

Now for my question:

I want to hack into the game’s code and swap out the instrument models for some of the songs, such as making George use a Strat on Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds , how would I do this. I know this can be done because there a couple of songs where someone uses a different instrument depending on what version you havel, such as here.

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How abour the game play? How does it compare to other rock band/guitar hero games?

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About the same, although there will be no difficult guitar parts since George Harrison was a simple but effective guitarist. I wonder how these songs would work on Lego Rock Band if you did some hacking to get them to work.

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Dark Overlord said
And my biggest complaint:

Only The Beatles are seen playing, no George Martin, no Billy Preston, no Eric Clapton, just John, Paul, George, and Ringo. This is a shame because these musicians don’t get any credit in the game despite being a major part of the song, such as Billy Preston’s importance during the rooftop despite him not being there in the game or how in the game George plays the solo to While My Guitar Gently Weeps instead of Eric, this especially is sad during the piano solo of In My Life where The Beatles are just walking around a field instead of showing George Martin playing the solo.
  

Yes: no Norman Smith or Geoff Emerick either, and no Yoko! It’s very noticeable as you play the game. It really ruins the verisimilitude they were trying for with locations like Studio 2 and the rooftop: even for people who don’t recognise the locations and don’t feel the absence of specific “fifth Beatles”, the lack of others must make the locations feel weightless and lacking in reality, more like the Yellow Submarine movie or some mid-’60s Beatles tat than the Anthology or Let it Be footage. Airbrushing out Preston also undermines all the care the Beatles took, then and since, to credit him for his Let It Be  and Abbey Road contributions.

I assume that Harmonix didn’t want the expense and hassle of licensing people’s likenesses, though as it’s also painfully obvious that they skimped on much of the in-game art and animation, maybe they didn’t want the expense and hassle of creating and animating any more character models either. There are also fairly specific reasons why some people might not have appeared anyway. Clapton might not have liked the idea of appearing in a videogame, especially in a supporting role in someone else’s videogame, and might have refused outright or demanded a big cheque; the fan politics of including Ono would have been awkward, maybe the band politics too; and Preston’s damaged reputation might keep him out of a big-budget, family-friendly game. Surely Harmonix could have licensed some of the engineers, techs, roadies and hangers-on without breaking the bank, though.

(In fact I’m sure I did see Mal Evans at the beginning of a Beatles animated scene … I’m just not sure whether it was in Rock Band Beatles now. It’s the “Beatle sandwich” anecdote, does anyone remember?)

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Your theory seems off for many reasons.

I assume that Harmonix didn’t want the expense and hassle of licensing people’s likenesses, though as it’s also painfully obvious that they skimped on much of the in-game art and animation, maybe they didn’t want the expense and hassle of creating and animating any more character models either.

All they had to do was recycle one of The Beatles character models and put a different face on it, is that too hard to do.

There are also fairly specific reasons why some people might not have appeared anyway. Clapton might not have liked the idea of appearing in a videogame, especially in a supporting role in someone else’s videogame, and might have refused outright or demanded a big check.

Plausible but seems unlikely.

The fan politics of including Ono would have been awkward, maybe the band politics too.

Seems weird considering that Yoko had to agree to the game and is not seen at all.

Preston’s damaged reputation might keep him out of a big-budget, family-friendly game.

It’s not like The Beatles were angels themselves.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com…..t-history/

And lets not forget about some of the people that are associated with The Beatles, such as how Mal Evans was shot by a police officer after refusing to drop his weapon, or how about Phil Spector’s murderous behavior, makes Billy Preston’s sexual assault seem not as bad and even so, he recovered from it and we should accept that. Also, some of the greatest people of all time have gotten into trouble with the law, such as Martin Luther King Jr., Jesus Christ, The Beatles, Bill Cosby, and even Elvis Presley, so ignoring Billy’s additions to The Beatles is wrong. Also, this still doesn’t explain why they didn’t include George Martin.

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Because only a very small percentage of the game’s players were going to sit there going, “Why no George Martin? Why no Billy Preston?”

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For once, you’re wrong. First of all, that’s not an excuse not to include important people in the game and second of all, they focus on quite a few things that most people really don’t care about, like the specific guitar models, do you really think you’re average Jimmy would care if George is playing

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in the dreamscape for the song Come Together , I know I sure would but that’s only because I’m obsessed with the specific instrument models of The Beatles and who used what on a certain song, most people could care less about that stuff. Same with the venues and the dreamscapes, could’ve just used a generic stage with generic instruments and had them play there and most people would be fine with that, like what Rock Band did with AC/DC, although sadly in that game they don’t even let you play as the band. I believe that far more people would care if someone like Billy Preston or George Martin was missing than some of the other small details they focused on which is why I am here to nullify your theory, thank you for understanding.

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You don’t prove me wrong at all, @Dark Overlord.

It is not a contradiction to say that attention was paid to the instruments they played to satisfy themselves while feeling no need to include any of those who augmented the work of John, Paul, George and Ringo.

On the occasions I have played the game, I don’t notice the make of guitar they’re playing, nor do I wonder why so-and-so is absent.

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So you’re saying that it doesn’t bother you at all whether or not Billy Preston is on the Apple rooftop or whether it’s John, George, Paul, or Eric playing the guitar solo to While My Guitar Gently Weeps or if George Martin’s playing the piano on In My Life or the 4 of them are just standing in a field, I feel bad for you.

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No, because it is a game, and not a documentary (see the fantasy sequences if in doubt. I can say, without fear of contradiction, many of those bear no resemblance to any known Beatles performance!).

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I have a theory to why the psychedelic dreamscapes exist. As you may or may not know, The Beatles did a lot of drugs, especially back in the day, typically marijuana and LSD. I think that they get high in game before they go into the studio and record the songs. This would also make sense because the dreamscapes start at the Rubber Soul era which is also when they really got into drugs and also the reason you don’t see this happen live is because unlike in the studio where no one has a problem with you smoking some weed before recording Fixing A Hole , if you decided to take some drugs before going on stage in a live performance, you’d be in some big trouble. Also, a lot of the dreamscapes seem like something you would see if you were high, such as with Hello Goodbye and Come Together .

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The Beatles didn’t get high while recording songs.

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