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mr. Sun king coming together
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15 December 2011 - 12.36pm

It says (on the sleeve) thanks to Paul and Linda McCartney, Denny Laine, George Martin and Geoff Emerick for 'All Those Years Ago'" And it says "Denny Laine appears courtesy of Warner Bros [I forget]."
Look, the bass would have been recorded when the song was recorded with Ringo. And Denny still thought, until mid 1981, that Tug Of War would be a Wings album. He appears on that album alot. The acrimony starts in 1981, when Paul announced (in returning to the Tug Of War project) that it would be a solo album, Denny said (essentially) fuck, and it ended. They would have been on speaking terms in December 1980/January 1981. Paul, after John's death, put it aside. Then he took it up again as a solo album, probably for the better.

Why is George Martin thanked for ATYA, when he has no noted contribution (that I know of)?

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

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15 December 2011 - 3.52pm

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Why is George Martin thanked for ATYA, when he has no noted contribution (that I know of)?

The wiki entry mentioned by mmrm above first says…

The album's liner notes also thank the Beatles' producer George Martin and the Beatles' engineer Geoff Emerick, although what contribution (if any) they made to the track is unclear.

That same entry goes on to list Sir George as one of the song's producers. A Google search produced a list of websites that also say he was a co-producer of the song. I wasn't there, so I can't confirm or deny. 

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mr. Sun king coming together
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15 December 2011 - 6.41pm

But again, the sleeve makes no mention of anything but what I quoted above. It doesn't credit him with anything, even though if someone helped produce even one song, they'd still be credited. This is strange.

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15 December 2011 - 6.56pm

mr. Sun king coming together said:

 This is strange.

No – THIS is strange.

 

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vonbontee
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15 December 2011 - 7.00pm

Again, truly appreciate all this info, you guys - how truly ignorant I am about huge swaths of the post-breakup years!

After Christmas has come and gone, I've got me a whole lotta books to read.

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

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mr. Sun king coming together
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15 December 2011 - 7.05pm

Zig, why is a prop used by Sue Ann Nivens Considered strange? She once cooked that, you know.

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15 December 2011 - 7.35pm

According to an Evening Standard article in 1981  (as quoted in The Beatles: The Dream Is Over by Keith Badman) Ringo and Paul recorded separate tapes and everything was then mixed in George Martin's studios. Which would account for the credit to George Martin.

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Into the Sky with Diamonds
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16 December 2011 - 2.07am

Vonbontee, hmmm perhaps I can make a suggestion...

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16 December 2011 - 2.51pm

Von B - for the solo years I recommend John Blaney's Lennon & McCartney: Together Alone and Simon Leng's While My Guitar Gently Weeps: The Music Of George Harrison. They should furnish you with some good in-depth info on who did what on the post-Beatles songs. For a broader overview (not just the songs) the book Fab Four FAQ 2.0 is very good too.

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19 December 2011 - 4.59pm

Thanks for the suggestions, i know there's a pile of good reading ahead, Peter Doggett's book being at the top of the theoretical pile

I remember George saying 'Blimey, he's always talking about “Yesterday”, you'd think he was Beethoven or somebody' - Paul McCartney

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20 December 2011 - 2.12am

Doggett's book is great. I've read it twice.

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21 December 2011 - 6.02pm

Hey Robert, haven't seen you for awhile!

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24 December 2011 - 11.41am

been busy -  too busy for the Beatles - not good!

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16 April 2013 - 12.34am

I can't remember which interview but I recall John saying that if Paul, George and Ringo were up for it he would have done it. I would've loved to see what they did.

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1 August 2013 - 4.19pm

 

I think it's probably good that The Beatles never reunited, because if they did, it's possible they would have made a crappy album that would tarnish their legacy.  Sure, the solo Beatles all made great music, and they made even better music together, but they didn't ALWAYS put out good songs throughout their whole lives, and anything can happen--they could have all turned out somewhat sub-par songs for the reunion, they could have gone with a bad producer, they could have had cheesy 80's keyboards, etc.

Does anyone agree?

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1 August 2013 - 5.10pm

Yip. Live Fawlty Towers the Beatles ended at the right time. Most bands/artists go thru a drudge which reduces their overall brilliance to varying degrees or end up getting together to throw out one last new album. I cant say I have any desire to see, or miss the idea of the four doing She Loves You in 1982. And in all honesty, whilst there are good things about FAAB and RL my life wouldn't be any worse if they hadn't of been made.

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1 August 2013 - 8.02pm

Can you just imagine if the Beatles, with their influence waning somewhat, started following the trends and made an album with Disco beats, or (*shudder*) they signed to Geffen and started making terrible synth-ey 80s albums...?

 

Just another reason that the Beatles were perfect, in the way that they walked out on a high note and left everyone wanting more.  THAT'S how you do it.

Not to crap on the The Stones, but imagine how much more iconic their catalogue would be if they stopped, say, after 'Some Girls'?

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1 August 2013 - 8.19pm

^I'd put the Stones' end point at It's Only Rock N Roll (that's the last album where I listen to them, nothing after), but that's down to personal preference. For every band like Rush who still put out great albums (like Clockwork Angels from February 2013), there's the Stones or Who pissing on their legacies when they are 2 of the all-time greats.

 

The Beatles, whether 100% by design or not, did it right.

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2 August 2013 - 4.24am

I completely agree.  They have their legacy, and it's just perfect.  heart

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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Linde
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2 August 2013 - 11.10pm

Yes indeed, the Stones were the first band that came to my mind too when I was reading this. They have put out some amazing things but also a lot of crap, especially the last few..well..decades? A lot of their stuff sounds the same and is really boring. The Beatles may not have existed as long as the Rolling Stones, but at least they didn't keep repeating themselves. 

I would have loved another Beatles album. Or two. Or ten. But like everyone says, we don't know what would've happened and what shit they would've put out. So what's happened is fine by me. We've got like what? 12 or 13 albums we can enjoy. That's still a lot more than most bands manage to release these days.

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