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Be Honest: Does Paul (and sometimes Ringo) tend to over-romanticize The Beatles?
18 March 2019
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Obviously I’d prefer to see all the LIB footage instead of only a part, but if Paul wants to cut it I don’t see why he can’t. It’s film from a very stressful chunk of his life that he may not want the entire world to see. Just because he’s famous doesn’t mean he’s not entitled to a little privacy.

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MattWatchingWheels said

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Honestly I would trust What Paul says on it more than John most of the time. Maybe Paul has a slight tendency to over exaggerate the positive aspects, and as others have said, John and George were more realistic about it all, but so many of John’s post-split interviews come across as very bitter and trying to spoil his own legacy in a way.  

Why WOULDN’T John be bitter? The whole Beatles phenomenon became something fabricated and untrue. It got to the point where they were being revered as almost literal holy men. You could argue he was TOO sour about it, but at least he wasn’t trying to feed into that. Paul on the other hand almost encourages it. Again, nothing is wrong with that because he means well. I just think it would be better if he didn’t.

How do we know he won’t want things from Let It Be cut? there was a reason it hadn’t been on DVD til now.

  

I’m not at all blaming John for being bitter, I’m just saying it perhaps makes him a less objective judge based on the interviews we have, all of which took place in the 10 years following the split, unlike Paul, who is still giving interviews to this day (again, not blaming John, this is just how things turned out). Maybe if John was around today his perspective would have changed.

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18 March 2019
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50yearslate said
Obviously I’d prefer to see all the LIB footage instead of only a part, but if Paul wants to cut it I don’t see why he can’t. It’s film from a very stressful chunk of his life that he may not want the entire world to see. Just because he’s famous doesn’t mean he’s not entitled to a little privacy.  

Sure, as long as he’s honest about it and doesn’t try to tell us this is how LIB was. Just don’t try to revise what we know.

18 March 2019
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I guess, but I still think he doesn’t have to if he doesn’t want to. This whole “I am a fan and I am entitled to the truth” mentality doesn’t seem right to me– what right To we have to poke around in his personal life? 

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18 March 2019
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They seem to have settled the debate over releasing Let It Be by releasing the original movie alongside a Paul-approved new movie. 

So we can get both sides now. It’s not like the new footage we see will be imaginary footage from Paul’s optimistic mind. It will be things that actually happened.

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18 March 2019
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Expert Textpert said
Paul has always been that way. He was devastated when The Beatles broke up because he always believed in the band. The problem was he wasn’t very good at motivating the others to stay because he is the reason they wanted to leave.

  

So it was Paul who broke the Beatles up????

Neatly done ET.

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@Wigwam, I don’t think ExTex meant to say that at all. Paul’s behaviour did foster a lot of resentment in the band. I definitely wouldn’t say he was THE SOLE REASON, but it was a pretty big one.

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MattWatchingWheels said
Another example is The White Album . Paul famously said, “It was great, it sold, it’s the bloody BEATLES’ White Album !” in a cheeky tone, and Ringo recalls it as “Great. That’s what I love! I love being in a band!” – Uh…Ringo? Are you forgetting you QUIT for a hot minute during it? Paul, aren’t you forgetting how you hurt John by doing “Why Don’t We Do It in The Road” behind his back? THE White Album WAS NOT A HAPPY TIME! Why are you both acting like it was?

Yes, there may have been some unhappy moments during the production of the album, but do you really think that there were absolutely no good times? It’s a flaw that many humans seem to have to let a couple bad parts of an experience override any good aspects of it. I commend them for being able to look past all the bad and be able to appreciate the good during that epoch of time.

Another thing you have to consider is that those quotes are from years after the album was released. I would find it odd for them to still be bitter about the drama that was going on in their twenties decades later. As people get older, they mature. What was a big deal to them in their salad days probably seems petty in old age. It would also be strange for Paul or Richy to be bringing up the “bad parts” of their relationships with their two dead friends (or for people to expect that) any time they got brought up in conversation. Yes, The Beatles are a part of history and a lot of people would be interested in their stories, but Paul and Richy are human beings and deserve to be respected for focusing on the good aspects of the bond they all shared. They are not “rewriting history” by doing this. 

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As for answering the thread’s title question: Yes. We all do. It’s something everybody does as time goes on, we tend to remember the happy and the moderated/not-so happy moments (even the bad ones) kinda over-romanticized

As for Paul being this or being that… it depends on how you wanna see him. Isn’t there a thread for Paul’s ego? a-hard-days-night-george-4

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19 March 2019
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@Wigwam, I don’t think ExTex meant to say that at all. Paul’s behaviour did foster a lot of resentment in the band. I definitely wouldn’t say he was THE SOLE REASON, but it was a pretty big one.

  

ET referring to Paul and saying………’he is the reason they wanted to leave’ seems quite explicit to me. Had he said about Paul, ‘he was one of the reasons…….part of the reason……..contributed to the reason.’ Then I’d agree with you, and ET…..On both levels….I think Paul did contribute to some of the dissatisfaction within the group but all four of the others played a part…..With one, perhaps not intentionally playing a more significant role in their collective dissatisfaction than Paul.

Just my reading at the time and since.

As for Paul’s rose tinted spectacles………Old age will do that to you. I think it’s healthy to focus on the good times and air-brush from your memory the bad. Easier for Paul to talk about too.

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