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Abbey Road on the River
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Last fall I discovered an annual festival billing itself as the largest Beatles festival in the states.  Apparently there is another one in Cleveland, Ohio (this one's in on the Ohio river [thus the name]  in Louisville, Kentucky).  It lasts for 5 days, and has various musicians, some Beatles cover bands (not sure if they have any lookalikes or not), some solo folk either singing exclusively Beatles or at least some.  They also feature a 2+ hour movie by ol' Freda, and showings of AHDN and HELP!.  I just have tickets for the festival Sunday ($15 usd) and the headline act (John Sebastian opening for the Beach Boys - sans Brian, unfortunately) - those, for 11th row center, were only $70 usd! If I had another day there, I'd love to see the movies on the big screen :)

The website is arotr.com, if you wanna check it out.  I think it should be a lot of fun, but probably not 5 days' worth of fun a-hard-days-night-george-10Would also be nice to go with a friend, maybe next year.

I'm planning to see the Freda movie (if I get there in time! - it's at 11am), a solo guitarist covering Beatles, James Taylor, Simon and Garfunkel, etc., a Beatles cover band, seems like something else, and then the main concert.  Gotta leave by 9am and get home around 3am, long drive home (2 hours).  I'm psyched, first of 3 concerts this summer including my 2nd ex-Beatle (within a year!!), Ringo, which will make my life as complete as possible given the other two have passed (RIP John and George).  The 3rd is John Fogerty (one of the best songwriters I know of (barring Bacharach and Lieber/Stoller, to name a couple - on par with Carole King and Neil Diamond as far as hits written), he was perhaps the leader of CCR).

Anyway I'm psyched, anyone in the Midwest USA should at least be aware of this festival! 

Another thing:  If anyone has seen the Ol' Freda movie, please let me know if it's worthwhile, as I'll have a couple more hours to get ready if it's not!

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Another thing:  If anyone has seen the Ol' Freda movie, please let me know if it's worthwhile, as I'll have a couple more hours to get ready if it's not!

I saw it and really enjoyed it, I think you'd like it!

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Last fall I discovered an annual festival billing itself as the largest Beatles festival in the states.  Apparently there is another one in Cleveland, Ohio (this one's in on the Ohio river [thus the name]  in Louisville, Kentucky).  It lasts for 5 days, and has various musicians, some Beatles cover bands (not sure if they have any lookalikes or not), some solo folk either singing exclusively Beatles or at least some.  They also feature a 2+ hour movie by ol' Freda, and showings of AHDN and HELP!.  I just have tickets for the festival Sunday ($15 usd) and the headline act (John Sebastian opening for the Beach Boys - sans Brian, unfortunately)

Too bad that Brian and the rest of the Beach Boys can't get along. Basically, Brian recorded Pet Sounds while the rest were on tour. Brian is in a different world. Sad.a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

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Too bad that Brian and the rest of the Beach Boys can't get along. Basically, Brian recorded Pet Sounds while the rest were on tour. Brian is in a different world. Sad.a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

Brian did a few dates with them last fall, according to some website i ran across (nothing like a solid reliable citation eh? a-hard-days-night-george-10.  I was hoping beyond hope that they'd announce he'd be with them this summer, but no such luck.  As far as Brian, musically he's out there for sure...unfortunately, he seems to be medicated pretty far out there...the long term antipsychotic look, flat affect, stiff back and muscles in general 🙁  It's a joy just to catch half a smile on his fact anymore.

Man, what a joyful noise he's made (with his cousin and brothers and friend)!

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Too bad that Brian and the rest of the Beach Boys can't get along. Basically, Brian recorded Pet Sounds while the rest were on tour. Brian is in a different world. Sad.a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

Brian did a few dates with them last fall, according to some website i ran across (nothing like a solid reliable citation eh? a-hard-days-night-george-10.  I was hoping beyond hope that they'd announce he'd be with them this summer, but no such luck.  As far as Brian, musically he's out there for sure...unfortunately, he seems to be medicated pretty far out there...the long term antipsychotic look, flat affect, stiff back and muscles in general 🙁  It's a joy just to catch half a smile on his fact anymore.

Man, what a joyful noise he's made (with his cousin and brothers and friend)!

Brian really does have a good sound with the Beach boys but he's in his own little world. It's like he deserves more than the rest. He's the king and they're the nobles.a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

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Brian really does have a good sound with the Beach boys but he's in his own little world. It's like he deserves more than the rest. He's the king and they're the nobles.a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

Brian Wilson has used a lot of illegal drugs, but so have I.  He has also been on antipsychotic medications and mood stabilizers for a long time.  As have I.  Those medications (not the illegal drugs) tend to flatten one's affect and severely hamper motivation (I'm not saying illegal drugs can't have significant side effects especially over long periods, but they have some big differences from psychiatric meds).  Have you noticed any video of Brian in the last 20 years with any expression other than an occasional weak smile?  These are powerful drugs and the side effects extend way beyond the ones I mentioned.  He has two psychiatric diagnoses (bipolar and schizoaffective, according to wiki et al).  And there was that psychologist who was illegally administering meds and drugs through two periods, in the 70s and late 80s-early 90s.  He lost his license to practice, and Carl and Al (I think) battled to get Brian away from him.  Anyway this is all in Brian's wiki entry.  My point being, I don't think Brian's the ahole you seem to think he is.  For people with psychiatric illness, it's a difficult trade-off between mind-numbing, creativity-sapping medications and crippling, dangerous symptoms.  Furthermore, he's a 72 year old artistic genius, so who knows what goes on in his mind.

Take a look at that Wiki entry.  The list of musical icons that consider him their friend is impressive.  Even the other remaining Beach Boys love him ("I don't like you, but I love you...").

I saw Brian last year, and while he does "get up" for a concert, it's still obvious the medications take their toll.  The only time in the last 30 years that I've seen him that he looked like he was truly enjoying himself was a UK concert of Pet Sounds in 2002.  The link is to the first of 3 youtubes comprising the concert.  It's not the album, but it's good.  Whoever introduced him said (maybe someone can verify this) that the UK folk voted Pet Sounds the best album in pop history (can this really be true?!!??).

OBR:  Paul introduced Brian at his admission to the Songwriters' Hall of Fame.

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Brian really does have a good sound with the Beach boys but he's in his own little world. It's like he deserves more than the rest. He's the king and they're the nobles.a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

Brian Wilson has used a lot of illegal drugs, but so have I.  He has also been on antipsychotic medications and mood stabilizers for a long time.  As have I.  Those medications (not the illegal drugs) tend to flatten one's affect and severely hamper motivation (I'm not saying illegal drugs can't have significant side effects especially over long periods, but they have some big differences from psychiatric meds).  Have you noticed any video of Brian in the last 20 years with any expression other than an occasional weak smile?  These are powerful drugs and the side effects extend way beyond the ones I mentioned.  He has two psychiatric diagnoses (bipolar and schizoaffective, according to wiki et al).  And there was that psychologist who was illegally administering meds and drugs through two periods, in the 70s and late 80s-early 90s.  He lost his license to practice, and Carl and Al (I think) battled to get Brian away from him.  Anyway this is all in Brian's wiki entry.  My point being, I don't think Brian's the ahole you seem to think he is.  For people with psychiatric illness, it's a difficult trade-off between mind-numbing, creativity-sapping medications and crippling, dangerous symptoms.  Furthermore, he's a 72 year old artistic genius, so who knows what goes on in his mind.

Take a look at that Wiki entry.  The list of musical icons that consider him their friend is impressive.  Even the other remaining Beach Boys love him ("I don't like you, but I love you...").

I saw Brian last year, and while he does "get up" for a concert, it's still obvious the medications take their toll.  The only time in the last 30 years that I've seen him that he looked like he was truly enjoying himself was a UK concert of Pet Sounds in 2002.  The link is to the first of 3 youtubes comprising the concert.  It's not the album, but it's good.  Whoever introduced him said (maybe someone can verify this) that the UK folk voted Pet Sounds the best album in pop history (can this really be true?!!??).

OBR:  Paul introduced Brian at his admission to the Songwriters' Hall of Fame.

Yeah. Now I understand. I've seen the effects of antipsychotic medication and they are very serious. People still admire him as a musician. I'm guessing the psychological barrier has seperated him from the rest of the Beach Boys and it's made him feel really depressed. So really he isn't an a-hole like the rest. There's a lot in his mind.

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Yeah. Now I understand. I've seen the effects of antipsychotic medication and they are very serious. People still admire him as a musician. I'm guessing the psychological barrier has seperated him from the rest of the Beach Boys and it's made him feel really depressed. So really he isn't an a-hole like the rest. There's a lot in his mind.

I'm sure Brian had his share of moments, like all of us (especially great artists, who seem to be disproportionately mentally ill).

I hope you don't think I was going off on you - I can obsess a bit myself about a topic I'm interested in.  I was learning about Brian's post-1970 life myself, and I just naturally assumed you'd be as interested as me (at this forum people actually are sometimes :).

ps - love your sig.  I've seen probably 50 concerts, including several legends, and at 72 Paul was the longest (3h5m) and tied for most energy (Phil Collins, age 30 with Genesis, the Stones, ages pushing 40, and the Ramones, early 20s).

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Yeah. Now I understand. I've seen the effects of antipsychotic medication and they are very serious. People still admire him as a musician. I'm guessing the psychological barrier has seperated him from the rest of the Beach Boys and it's made him feel really depressed. So really he isn't an a-hole like the rest. There's a lot in his mind.

I'm sure Brian had his share of moments, like all of us (especially great artists, who seem to be disproportionately mentally ill).

I hope you don't think I was going off on you - I can obsess a bit myself about a topic I'm interested in.  I was learning about Brian's post-1970 life myself, and I just naturally assumed you'd be as interested as me (at this forum people actually are sometimes :).

ps - love your sig.  I've seen probably 50 concerts, including several legends, and at 72 Paul was the longest (3h5m) and tied for most energy (Phil Collins, age 30 with Genesis, the Stones, ages pushing 40, and the Ramones, early 20s).

You weren't going off on me at all. It was a very interesting read and I was just as interested in it as yiu are. P.S. You've been lucky to see all those concerts. And I'm glad you like my signature too.a-hard-days-night-john-6

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Paul is playing Lousiville, Kentucky on October 28th.  Abbey Road on the River is planning an entire weekend of activities welcoming him to the city.  I'm wondering if I should go to the whole 3-day event, in the off chance that Paul will show up for an interview or something.

Here's the amazing news:  After enjoying Ringo, and recalling how much my uncle and I enjoyed Paul last year, my mom (who has money) said she would probably spring for tickets to see Paul if he came anywhere near us.  The one thing she didn't like about the Ringo show was the lack of Beatles songs (she had no clue that Ringo sang - and they released - the earlier songs like

.  Of course Paul's shows have no lack of Beatles songs!  So I quickly found the Louisville show (2 hours away) and told her about it, and that tickets would be at least 300 USD.  She seemed interested, so there's a chance I can see Paul again this year!

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For those in the midwest (or even more fanatical people farther away)...win a pair of tix to see the knight!...xposted to Paul's "Out There" Tour (contains spoilers)

If you have a Facebook account then we have tickets to see Paul McCartney that you could win...

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Couldn't catch Paul this year but my uncle called me Out Of The Blue and said he wanted to go to Abbey Road on the River in May.  This is the festival that Ol' Freda showed up last year and gave a 2 hour interview/q&a at.  At least 45 tribute bands, and movies and interviews.  Peace and Love (as Ringo would say) was the mood, it was so relaxed, everyone was happy and friendly, and it's not too crowded. I actually felt spiritually at peace for awhile from the vibes I picked up. We're going for 2 days so we'll be able to see many of them. I'm psyched!

Oh - another cool thing is to see all the kids that are into the Beatles, from toddler on up :)

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This is freakin awesome. I'll post more later...but like last year I have to mention the vibes first...and here's a couple shots... The yellow submarine is going to lead a parade tonight and the late night jam session went untilIMAG0090.jpgImage Enlarger

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This is freakin awesome. 

Welcome back Matt! a-hard-days-night-ringo-15

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Here's a strange sight.  I qguess they were going to bartend some party that night (Friday).

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Looking forward to hearing more, @Matt Busby. I'm sure you had a blast!!

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The festival is moving to a new location for 2017 due to a dispute with the Galt House Hotel in Louisville, Kentucky the Examiner has reported. From the article

“Next year, 2016, will be the final year for Abbey Road On The River in Louisville. Actions from The Galt House Hotel first compelled festival organizers to partner with the Marriott as the host hotel for 2016, but now organizers realize their hard work and efforts are being undermined by The Galt House, and that the hotel on Main Street thinks that somehow Abbey Road on The River is theirs,” the statement said.

“The festival does not belong to the Galt House," said Gary Jacob, founder and organizer of Abbey Road on the River. "It's ours, and so we will spend the next year either finding someone in Louisville who wants to buy Abbey Road On The River, or we will find a new city and a hotel up the 1-71 corridor where the hotel (to which we bring millions of dollars in travel business to) does not do things that are harmful to the festival just because they think they can."

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The festival is moving to a new location for 2017 due to a dispute with the Galt House Hotel in Louisville, Kentucky the Examiner has reported. From the article

That's a real shame. $130/night for  double room in a 4* hotel that allows the guests to party and sing all night long is a good deal. We loved it, but then we don't often stay in hotels that nice. Otoh, moving "up the I-71 corridor" probably brings it closer to my house...

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Examiner has statements from Kentucky's Galt Hotel and the mayor of Louisville, Greg Fischer.

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“Galt House Hotel is deeply disappointed by the announcement to move Abbey Road on the River in 2017 from Louisville. This festival has been a staple in the community and is adored by many. The Galt House Hotel is dedicated to driving business to the city and supporting local events. We wish them the best moving forward and hope they reconsider on the decision to leave Louisville.”

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Abbey Road on the River is a signature festival for our city and it was nice to see large crowds in attendance this weekend. I'm hopeful that this private business matter can be resolved to keep the music playing in Louisville for many years to come."

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In my feedback on both the Galt and arotr, I'm going to strongly request that they work this out.  The venue is really unique - a riverside hotel, with facilities for 5 outdoor venues from a porch to a 5,000 seat outdoor area, and smaller rooms for talks, small sessions, and workshops.  The Galt was really hospitable and seemed to enjoy having us hippies there.  I can't think of anywhere up I-71 other than perhaps Cleveland, which is so huge that it could ruin the festival (although they do a smaller one in the fall there).

As far as my arotr experience, I'm on the last night of my tremendous (see my post in what's going on in your life right now for more info) vacation and my brain is stuffed with music and music trivia such that arotr seems like a faint memory atm.  I'm sure with some rest and full hydration I'll find some more interesting things to post.  For now I'll just say that I tried to promote the site and met several people who were familiar with it 🙂

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