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16 June 2017
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No worries, it's happened to me before, I just didn't want to derail that other thread so I moved the discussion here.

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Anyways, why do you consider Yesterday musically simple Holey, I always thought I was fairly complex, especially with it's chord progression of:

G F#m7 B7 Em Em7/D Cmaj7 D G G/F# Em D C G (technically F Em7 A7 Dm Dm7/C Bbmaj7 C F F/E Dm C Bb F)

In progression numbers, that's:

I bvii7 III7 vi vi7/V IVmaj7 V I I/#VII vi V IV I

Did you mean it as in there's not a lot of instruments in the song.  

Why do you think it is a complex chord progression? It's pretty simple indeed.
F major and its minor relative Dm. Simple thing. Paul did something quite similar in "And I Love Her "
Also, you got a few chords wrong. No Cmaj7 as that means the 7th of the chord is major, in this case the 7th of C is B and it is not major at all since it is B flat. So the correct notation is just C7.
Same thing for Bbmaj7

And bvii7 is also wrong. The 7th grade has no b in this case. If you say F and then Em7 then the numbers should be: I - vii7
And not bvii.

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Now, when I hear this song, I am always reminded of Paul's insistence on how the strings were played and glad for it.

From Joe's article:

After attempting an unrecorded arrangement of Yesterday with John Lennon on Hammond organ, George Martin suggested to McCartney that they use a string quartet - a first for The Beatles.

McCartney was initially skeptical, and insisted the musicians perform without vibrato.

Until I read that, and not being a musician myself, I could never quite put my finger on why I enjoyed the quartet on this track so much more in comparison to other pop songs containing strings. A perfect example would be the Stones' 'As Tears Go By'. It's a tremendous song, but to my ears, it would have sounded much better and a bit more moody had the strings been less frilly.  

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Why do you think it is a complex chord progression? It's pretty simple indeed.
F major and its minor relative Dm. Simple thing. Paul did something quite similar in "And I Love Her "
Also, you got a few chords wrong. No Cmaj7 as that means the 7th of the chord is major, in this case the 7th of C is B and it is not major at all since it is B flat. So the correct notation is just C7.
Same thing for Bbmaj7

And bvii7 is also wrong. The 7th grade has no b in this case. If you say F and then Em7 then the numbers should be: I - vii7
And not bvii.  

Can't believe that i didn't notice this one. I took the chords from Beatles To A Tee, it's a very accurate direct to DVD series made by a guy named Rob Taylor who cares about The Beatles and wants to put accuracy into his guitar lessons and he said Cmaj7, not C7 although he could be wrong.

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Added to The Beatles Vevo Channel, erm, yesterday, the Ed Sullivan performance of Yesterday :

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"Why she had to go, I don't know, she wouldn't say..."

Does anyone think that, on some level, the woman he's thinking about in this song could be ... his mother?

He was only 24 when he wrote the song; his mother died when he was a young teenager.

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Is it about Jane Asher or about his mother?

Anyways, i think nowadays it might have plenty of other meanings to him... Maybe he thinks a bit of Jane, his mother, John, George, Ringo, The beatles, his father, relatives, George Martin, ...ya know...the good old days...  

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Why she had to go I don't know she wouldn't say
I said something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Is Jane Asher really the "she" in the song? This is the first time I've read that. If it's true, may I please have the source?

I always thought "she" was a fictional character, similar to 'Lovely Rita '. If "she" was a real person from his life, it would make more sense to me that it was his mother. I say that because of what Paul said after being told she was dead; "The first thing I said was, What are we going to do without her money?". To me, his regret over thinking/saying that fits the lyric "I said something wrong".  

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I believe I've heard that theory somewhere before.

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Does anyone know if there is a connection between 'Yesterday ' and the lyric "Well, yesterday was such an easy game for you to play" from the Kinks 'Where Have All The Good Times Gone' or if it's just coincidence?

The Kinks track was released in November 1965 but i have no idea when it was recorded. With 'Yesterday ' out in August I'd imagine Ray Davies knew of the lyrics.

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It's quite possible, @meanmistermustard. It was definitely recorded after the release of Yesterday , dating from the sessions for The Kinks Kontroversy between 23-30 October 1965, and first released as the b-side to Till the End of the Day on 19 November 1965.

It's very close, just two words inserted, to think it purely coincidental.

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Forgive me Father McKenzie & Eleanor Rigby for my sacrilege, but "Yesterday " I find to be a rather insipid song, surely among those rare few Beatles songs I don't much care for. Sure it has fleeting flashes of poignancy, but overall it is to me underwhelming. 

I must add, though, that its potential was brilliantly mined by Ray Charles; indicating that in this case, Paul's flat affect style, which works well in other songs (e.g., "Here, There, and Everywhere"; or "I Will "), doesn't suit it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....QroEbNejFs

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Forgive me Father McKenzie & Eleanor Rigby for my sacrilege, but "Yesterday " I find to be a rather insipid song, surely among those rare few Beatles songs I don't much care for. Sure it has fleeting flashes of poignancy, but overall it is to me underwhelming. 

I must add, though, that its potential was brilliantly mined by Ray Charles; indicating that in this case, Paul's flat affect style, which works well in other songs (e.g., "Here, There, and Everywhere"; or "I Will "), doesn't suit it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?.....bNejFs  

I disagree. I think it's a perfect song - perfect melody, perfect lyric, perfect music. It's one of those songs that sounds like it wasn't written, but discovered. As if the song was always there, Paul just happened to be the one to discover it.

That said, the song only has so much emotional value for me, and I'd choose Two of Us or In My Life over it any day.

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Why she had to go, I don't know
She wouldn't say
I said something wrong
Now I long for yesterday

Is it narcissistic of Paul to assume that the reason she left is because of something he said?

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Ahhh Girl said

Why she had to go, I don't know

She wouldn't say

I said something wrong

Now I long for yesterday

Is it narcissistic of Paul to assume that the reason she left is because of something he said?

  

That is possible.  Personally I interpret it as he just hasn't the faintest idea what he could've possibly done wrong (a-hard-days-night-ringo-14a-hard-days-night-ringo-6ahdn_paul_01), but it's actually something stupidly obvious that he should already know is bad.

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I don't think it's narcissistic to blame oneself for something like that, even when it wasn't anything to do with them really. People often do feel that way, 'Is it my fault? It must be my fault. I could have, should have, done something differently...'

Or also what Kaniffee said.

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Or also what Kaniffee said.

  

I had a good long chuckle at that

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PWT but what you wrote seems reasonable as well, pretty much how I'd have interpreted it. You're welcome for the laugh. john-lennon-salute_gif

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