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Worst Beatles Song
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I certainly now understand it more, but I don't necessarily like it more. In fact, after reading about it, somehow I think I like it less! Basically what I gathered was that it was just them having a bit of fun, and it was never really meant for release. 

Mal Evans: spade in gravel is quite possibly the funniest credit, except perhaps for Ringo Starr : Suitcase (Words Of Love ).

What I really meant was Revolution 9 was a ripoff, basically just taking the principle of YKMN(LUTN) and making it worse.

Anyhow, I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't discourage my friends from liking Yesterday , even though I don't like it, because they are (sometimes) intelligent enough to make up their own mind. That also applies to me, though I'm not saying that you are trying to force me to like YKMN(LUTN), I am saying that I feel quite a lot of people disagree with my opinions, especially that of YKMN(LUTN)!

Having said that, if anyone tries to convince me (which I'm fine with normally, as that is what you just tried to do, @Zig) to like Wild Honey Pie , I will hate you for the rest of my life!  

53 (or 54) seconds of silliness, a nice little bouncy tune. Well worth giving it a go. There is a fan club too that you could join. a-hard-days-night-john-6

Folk have tried to explain the goodness of 'Hold Me Tight ', they have failed miserably. It sucks, blows and stinks for every second of its existence.

Ringo saves 'Blue Jay Way '; I couldn't stand it until I realised just how good the drumming is. I always think Ringo starts out bored, the same as everyone else, but then decides to hell with it all and entertains himself.

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Four song fragments is too much. I can cope with two (A Day In The Life ), but not any more. That's why I dislike Bohemian Rhapsody. Too many different songs in the one.

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meanmistermustard said

Folk have tried to explain the goodness of 'Hold Me Tight ', they have failed miserably. It sucks, blows and stinks for every second of its existence.

I thought about you while reading this passage about that song recently.

"Although both McCartney and Lennon dismissed it in later interviews, it is actually a clever song that is often forgotten by even the biggest fans and abhorred by others."

I assume you are one of the "others". a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Zig said

meanmistermustard said

Folk have tried to explain the goodness of 'Hold Me Tight ', they have failed miserably. It sucks, blows and stinks for every second of its existence.

I thought about you while reading this passage about that song recently.

"Although both McCartney and Lennon dismissed it in later interviews, it is actually a clever song that is often forgotten by even the biggest fans and abhorred by others."

I assume you are one of the "others". a-hard-days-night-george-10  

They vetoed it during the 'PPM ' sessions.

I wonder what the clever part of the song is. 

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I have made this clear several time but I think Good Night is the worst Beatles song of all time. To be fair, I did listen to it recently and realized that I might've went a little to hard on it, the orchestration's nice and lush and George's celesta adds a nice touch, but that doesn't mean I changed my mind about it being the worst Beatles song ever released.

First of all, the only part played by a Beatle is Ringo's vocals, that's it, unless if you call George Martin a Beatle, who plays the celesta. Next, Ringo's vocals sound terrible and since that's the only Beatle part in this song meaning The Beatles are represented horribly. Also, The Beatles are a classic rock band and The Beatles is a classic rock album, I don't want an orchestrated lullaby on a classic rock album telling me to go to sleep sung by the worst singer in the band. Finally, The Beatles had a song recorded during these sessions that would've been a hell of a better ending than Good Night and that song is none other than Hey Jude . I think if they took out Good Night and instead ended the album with Hey Jude , the album would've been a lot better and would've ended on a much happier note and I also think the album would've sold better.

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The reason why is most likely because they didn't include Hey Jude on The Beatles. I know that it was considered wrong to put singles on albums but they did this with Eleanor Rigby and Yellow Submarine , so why not Hey Jude .

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According to a book on the best-selling albums of the 60s, The Beatles comes in at .... #1.

Hard to do better.

(That said, some have claimed that this is due to accounting techniques whereby a double-album counts as 2 sales; I've not seen this verified.)

Regardless of one's opinion about "Good Night " it's hard to argue against the concept that "Hey Jude " would have been an improvement! (Would there have been room the vinyl? You can then argue that "Hey Jude " -one of the most popular songs of the 60s- would have been an improvement over MANY songs on Sides 3 and 4."

The most interesting aspect of "Good Night " is that this syrupy song with the syrupy arrangement is not a McCartney song but a Lennon song. With a plain arrangement, it's a perfectly nice song.

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They probably could've slipped in Hey Jude , if they took out Good Night , they'd be cutting 3 minutes off the album, so adding Hey Jude would only be adding 4 minutes but if that was too much, they could use Revolution instead of Revolution 1 (prefer the single version myself anyways) and cut Revolution 9 by a minute or 2.

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What Goes On

Run For Your Life

Dizzy Miss Lizzy

I Wanna Be Your Man

Four songs that would all get in my top 20!

My worst: Revolution 9 . Always will be. 

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That's a tough question because there is no Beatles song I absolutely don't like, even The Long And Winding Road has its moments. Therefore, I will define the worst Beatles song in my opinion as the song I'd bmost likely skip and this is All You Need Is Love . It's not a bad song by any means and I also don't know why I've got a problem with it but I simply don't buy the message of love in this song. There are other Beatles songs (The End , Within You Without You , ...) which make me think about peace and loving each other much more then AYNIL although the message is not that prominently featured in either of those songs. 

But perhaps, I just had to have lived in the sixties to get the real impact of AYNIL.

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The Hole Got Fixed, The reason you hate Revolution 9 so much is because you're viewing it as a song, I think the track sucks as a song, but if you listen to it as a sound collage and from a curiosity standpoint instead, there's a chance you will like it better. Also, I read in an earlier post that you think this song is a rip off of You Know My Name (Look Up the Number), this isn't so, Revolution 9 involves using lots of tape loops from old tapes found in Abbey Road , as well as some original vocals and reversed guitar, and placing it on top of the part of Revolution 1 (Take 20) that didn't make it on The Beatles (John screaming "right" is from this backing track), whereas YKMN is just them messing around in the studio, doing stupid stuff that you'd expect from The Wiggles, and when you think of it, it's more like I Am The Walrus than Revolution 9 .

Martha, how does The End remind you more of peace and love than All You Need Is Love . I know there's that final line and you could say the guitar solo is about sharing and caring, but that's about it, the song's pretty much an instrumental, with an intro, a drum solo, a guitar riff, a 3 way guitar duel, a brief message, and an outro guitar solo played by George.

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@Dark Overlord said

Martha, how does The End remind you more of peace and love than All You Need Is Love. I know there's that final line and you could say the guitar solo is about sharing and caring, but that's about it, the song's pretty much an instrumental, with an intro, a drum solo, a guitar riff, a 3 way guitar duel, a brief message, and an outro guitar solo played by George.

Fair point, it's something very subjective indeed. For me, the 'brief message' is crucial because I find it powerful yet modest. And of course the backstory that they all played a solo together and John told Yoko to leave the studio and they were a real unit, but these are only romantical aspects. 

The reason I don't like AYNIL too much has not really got something to do with the song itself but rather with the way it has been overplayed and the message overused.When there exist slogans like 'All you need is beer' or 'All You Need Is Love - but a cupcake would also be nice' everywhere around you, how can you still listen to the song and take it one hundred percent serious as an anthem of love? I just can't and it's kind of sad because it's a great song musically and I can imagine how influential it was then.

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Been a while so 'Hold Me Tight '.

Every damn thing about this is horrendous, from Paul's 'this is not still working so i'll try even harder to fake enthusiasm' vocal, to John and George's bored senseless vocals. They couldn't even get the rhythm track right.

'Kansas City /Hey-Hey-Hey-Hey!' is a terrible cover with another trying too hard Paul vocal and bored backing vocals from John and George.

'A Taste Of Honey ' is a bore but there is no way George and John are taking the backing vocals seriously which makes it a little more fun.

'Good Night ' is dull but it was meant to be incredibly cheesy, they did it well therefore. Can't complain over Ringo's vocal and I like his spoken intro which we hear a little of in the 'Anthology'.

'Revolution 9 ' wouldn't be anywhere near my worst Beatles songs list.

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My least favourite track is definitely The Long And Winding Road .

It's the one Beatles song that I'll 100% always skip. It's not even the production for me, I just find it incredibly cringy and middle of the road a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

Aside from that, i'm not much of a fan Paul's 'granny music' songs, namely: Honey Pie and Till There Was You (even though it's a cover).

I quite like When I'm Sixty-Four and Maxwell's Silver Hammer though.

 

Other least favourite tracks are: Don't Pass Me By , Honey Don't and Matchbox .

I'm a fan of both Revolution 9 and Good Night  john-lennon-salute_gif

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As much as Good Night sucks, how was it supposed to be cheesy @meanmistermustard this isn't Yellow Submarine or Wild Honey Pie , they got an orchestra and a choir for this song and although Ringo sings, no says that What Goes On or Matchbox were supposed to be corny, so why this one.

I thought I'd make a list of Beatles songs that are often hated that I like:

Hold Me Tight (it's a nice little rocker, don't know where all the hate comes from)

When I Get Home (meant to be filler but it's still a great song)

Mr. Moonlight (one of my favorite songs on Beatles For Sale , I love the feel of this song)

Revolution 9 (I like this song from a curiosity standpoint and I think that's how it should be viewed, definitely not the worst Beatles song)

Maxwell's Silver Hammer (I absolutely love this song, I don't get why people would hate it)

The Long And Winding Road (A nice ballad, not my type of music but it does what it should and it does it well)

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No idea why people hate Hold Me Tight so much. I also like it. Good Night is cheesy in how it closes The White Album similar to how If You Wish Upon A Star closes Pinocchio. I think it is actually anreally beautiful arrangement of a nice gentle song with really clever chord changes. Ringo's voice fits perfectly on it. 

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As much as Good Night sucks, how was it supposed to be cheesy @meanmistermustard this isn't Yellow Submarine or Wild Honey Pie , they got an orchestra and a choir for this song and although Ringo sings, no says that What Goes On or Matchbox were supposed to be corny, so why this one.

I thought I'd make a list of Beatles songs that are often hated that I like:

Hold Me Tight (it's a nice little rocker, don't know where all the hate comes from)

When I Get Home (meant to be filler but it's still a great song)

Mr. Moonlight (one of my favorite songs on Beatles For Sale , I love the feel of this song)

Revolution 9 (I like this song from a curiosity standpoint and I think that's how it should be viewed, definitely not the worst Beatles song)

Maxwell's Silver Hammer (I absolutely love this song, I don't get why people would hate it)

The Long And Winding Road (A nice ballad, not my type of music but it does what it should and it does it well)  

John requested 'Good Night ' to have a 1920/30's kind of orchestral over-cheesy score.

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What a strange thread. I guess it's one of those "You had to be there" moments. I don't understand the concept of what the most influential band of the '60's should or shouldn't have done. One of the joys of my life was being there before and watching not just "The Lads" & Dylan change "youth music", but watching other artists expand experimentation in sounds and lyrics, beCAUSE of them. After the brilliance of AHDN , with each release you were left with OMG, WTF, they did it AGAIN! Hence, for example: Cry Baby Cry to Rev #9 to Goodnight, We were smashed loaded on the couch (hearing TWA for the first time) and when the last notes of Goodnight played, my buddy turned & said, "They have f*cked music forever! OMG, Nobody else should ever be allowed to record ANYthing!" THAT is how a little rock n roll band affected those who were there.

Just saying. Carry on.......

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It's great that someone who was actually there listening to The Beatles back in the 60's (not counting users like Ron Nasty who were very young at the time) is on this forum. When your friend said that back in 1968, was it because the album is go great (many people, including myself, consider it their best) or because he didn't like those last 2 songs.

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