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will there ever be another Beatles?
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thesnazz
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23 July 2013 - 8.06pm

Mod note: to discuss this topic, please go to this thread http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo.....pen-again/

I know that everyone of us here loves, likes, admires or respects the Beatles
In one form or other or we would not be here, other than by accident or
just plain nosey *lol*

My question to all of you is,
Do you think there will ever be another
rock band that will contribute to the music
World and change the multitude of things
In this life as we know it with the same impact
As the Beatles now in our life time or ever again?
And thats a long time.

Remember, Paul & Ringo are close to pushing 80 now
And one day that sad news will come. apple01

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SatanHimself
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23 July 2013 - 8.48pm

Hello snazz (sorry for thinking you were a spammer),

 

I think that popular culture, due mostly to the internet, has made it impossible to ever see the perfect storm-in-a-teacup that created the Beatles.

Part of what made the Beatles' phenomenon what it was, was the way information was spread 50 years ago.  The Beatles had to build by very slow word-of-mouth, and since media was still in its infancy your average fan was always being surprised by something new.

None of this is possible anymore with instant viral fads and real-time trending.

At the same time, the Beatles were actively *inventing* things that nobody had ever seen.  The audience was unsophisticated and naive and there was a lot of room for discovery and invention.  That really doesn't exist in its traditional form anymore.

The only way that another artist or group will come along and really change things is that we need to lose everything first.  A devastating war.  The internet becoming sentient and enslaving us all...  You know, that sort of thing.  We would need to be recovering from something so terrible that only a prophet artist could show us the way.

That's my oddball thinking... 

E is for 'Ergent'.

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fabfouremily
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23 July 2013 - 9.41pm

No, I don't think so. As SH said, they did so many new things in terms of music that just wasn't heard of before whereas now it's been done. There are probably more things that people are yet to do but I can't see anyone ever having that same impact again, particularly when you think that no other artist quite had the same impact at the time. It's a little sad to think that they'll never be anyone else like them but I think it's being realistic, and it does remind you that they were very special - in case you ever forget.

Moving along in our God given ways, safety is sat by the fire/Sanctuary from these feverish smiles, left with a mark on the door.

(Passover - I. Curtis)

thesnazz
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23 July 2013 - 9.57pm

Thank you Satanhimself

Your insight on this subject matter
is most thought provoking to say the
least as Spock would say.

Joking aside
Darn, i think you nailed the
question with one take!
And i agree with you one hundred
so as a reward i give you ....count them
4 freshly picked apples! apple01apple01apple01apple01

thesnazz
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23 July 2013 - 10.11pm

fabfouremily said

No, I don't think so. As SH said, they did so many new things in terms of music that just wasn't heard of before whereas now it's been done. There are probably more things that people are yet to do but I can't see anyone ever having that same impact again, particularly when you think that no other artist quite had the same impact at the time. It's a little sad to think that they'll never be anyone else like them but I think it's being realistic, and it does remind you that they were very special - in case you ever forget.

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Fabfouremily

Aww another wonderful take on this
love it & thank you!
4 apples for you too apple01apple01apple01apple01
sure glad they've got plenty of apples here

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Linde
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23 July 2013 - 11.09pm

No.

I think SH and Emily pretty much hit the nail in the head (or whatever that expression is in English) so I won't repeat their arguments again.

I think Satan has an interesting view though, with the whole devestating war thing. I really wonder that if something like that would happen, something as great as the Beatles would emerge. I hope I'll never have to experience that though, brr.

I just think that because they ''invented'' so much and were part of the whole movement that changed pop music and influenced so many musicians, there will never be another group who will achieve that again, unless a whole new and super successful genre will be created, which I don't really see happening. I think what's very important too is that most of their music is really timeless. It aged really well.

 

Duke_of_Kirkcaldy
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24 July 2013 - 3.48am

Not likely... especially with how the music industry is run now.  Artists only have to put out new product every 3-6 years, and lack of musical talent is now often masked by extreme spectacle in concerts.  And it's hard enough for any band with any modicum of artistic integrity to even reach a mainstream audience anymore.  I'm frankly embarrassed that a one-dimensional band like Nirvana is more or less seen as my generation's Beatles equivalent in terms of musical and cultural impact.  That's an awfully big step down.  a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

thesnazz
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24 July 2013 - 5.43am

Duke_of_Kirkaldy said

Not likely... especially how the music industry runs now.  Artists only have to put out new product every 3-6 years, and lack of musical talent is now often masked by extreme spectacle in concerts.  And it's hard enough for any band with any modicum of artistic integrity to even reach a mainstream audience anymore.  I'm frankly embarrassed that a one-dimensional band like Nirvana is more or less seen as my generation's Beatles equivalent in terms of musical and cultural impact.  That's an awfully big step down.  a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

--------------------
Duke,

Your words ring out so true
to the multitude of Beatle fans
around the world.

4 apples to you for your input apple01apple01apple01apple01

Ok, folks no more apples... seasons over *lol*

paullennon01
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24 July 2013 - 7.33am

i doubt it, they were like the jesus christ of rock'n'roll.

we don't really another band like them anyways since we still have them :)

id love to see another band like them/

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fabfouremily
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24 July 2013 - 1.09pm

I can't really see a whole new genre of music emerging that will change everything the way pop music (and all the kinds of music that led from that shortly after), but you never know. I bet had you have asked someone in the mid to late fifties about what music would be like in ten years time, they wouldn't have been correct.

Moving along in our God given ways, safety is sat by the fire/Sanctuary from these feverish smiles, left with a mark on the door.

(Passover - I. Curtis)

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meanmistermustard

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24 July 2013 - 2.55pm

I think too many things have to come together like it did with the Beatles, the timings of meeting people and everything else are incredible. However some act will come on the scene and stir it all up again, give it a kick up the backside, because it needs one on the commercial level and what people are being fed by all the talent shows and other bubbleacts. Their time will come to an end (probably as more people wake up to the level of crap they operate on and the shit deals and lifespans the large majority of acts have - there are always exceptions). The Beatles just kept building up, growing and growing, until eventually it had to explode, there are more ways for the release to happen in a quicker more diversified way nowadays (see what Satanhimself said above).

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Zig
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24 July 2013 - 6.02pm

No.

To the fountain of perpetual mirth, Let it roll for all its worth.

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fabfouremily
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24 July 2013 - 6.05pm

^ Simple.

Moving along in our God given ways, safety is sat by the fire/Sanctuary from these feverish smiles, left with a mark on the door.

(Passover - I. Curtis)

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LongHairedLady
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25 July 2013 - 7.31am

Zig said
No.

Agreed.  They were the one and only.  

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

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trcanberra
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2 September 2013 - 1.30pm

fabfouremily said
No, I don't think so. As SH said, they did so many new things in terms of music that just wasn't heard of before whereas now it's been done. There are probably more things that people are yet to do but I can't see anyone ever having that same impact again, particularly when you think that no other artist quite had the same impact at the time. It's a little sad to think that they'll never be anyone else like them but I think it's being realistic, and it does remind you that they were very special - in case you ever forget.

My thoughts as well.

Just an ideal confluence of amazing talent, a time in history and the evolution of music at that point.  Music is so diverse nowadays, it's hard to see any singer or group appealing to such a wide audience - even though some people see Beatlemania as kids rebelling against their parents, lots of the parents loved the Beatles as well.

 

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mccartneyalarm
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2 September 2013 - 5.15pm

There will never be another Beatles as the music industry has changed (as pointed out in the above comments). "Acts" now are a flash in the pan. Even winners of "American Idol" and Britain's version of that, and other talent shows never really make it for long. There are too many "acts" to market to a very diverse audience. Proof there will be no other Beatles...there will never be another Frank Sinatra or Elvis either....musicians today are still performing their songs, as well as the Beatles songs. No group or soloist can be marketed or appeal to enough of an audience to make them once-in-a-lifetime performers like the Beatles, Elvis, & Sinatra.

"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make."

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Tea and Sympathy
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2 September 2013 - 5.44pm

Yes.  When the universe collapses on itself the entirety of history will repeat.  I'm buying Ed Sullivan tickets right now just to be safe.

Don't you know? It's gonna be alright. (Shoo-bee-doo-wop)

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Ahhh Girl
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2 September 2013 - 6.23pm

First, this discussion reminds me of Paul McCartney's line "I think of all the things to be discovered" from _Ever Present Past_. He has new sounds to discover, combine, and add lyrics to. His sense of childlike wonder is adorable.

More on topic now: as mentioned, the fracturing of human experience due to the internet precludes another Beatlesque phenomenon (not even if the group gets a million "likes" on Facebook). Also, will there be another Brian Epstein who makes it his life's passion to see a group succeed?

I'm glad the internet wasn't around in the 60's (well, like it is today) or we might not have had the Beatles. Shudder. Nightmare thought.

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beatlesfansunite
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21 September 2013 - 6.46am

For me, I think as of now no one could beat how the Beatles contributed in our music industry and the influenced they made. No one could be the same as the Beatles. Yes, there are good rock bands out there and they also contributed talents to our music industry and they also give impact to the Beatles but no one can be the same as BEATLES. :) Just my opinion.

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walrusgumboot
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1 October 2013 - 5.37pm

Uh, no.

....ya won't be interferin' wit the basic rugged concept o' me personality would ya madam?

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