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When I'm Sixty-Four
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Ron Nasty said
We know that through this Paul had a great knowledge of, and affection for, the Big Band and Jazz of the '20s and '30s. Jazz Me Blues, dating back to at least 1921, and recorded by multiple artists, including the great Bix Beiderdecke, seems a tune of the era Jim might well have been familiar with, and might well have made Paul aware of.
  

That's very ragtime even without the prominent piano part! Ragtime accentuates that two-step vamp rhythm (a lot of it is to do with the left hand style on the piano and the way the right hand's melody dances around it), and it can be overlooked how popular that jazz style remained. Imagine Honey Pie played in that style on the piano, you can see it, can't you. The great Tin Pan Alley tunes, particularly the ukulele ones, often have a component of this, like Ukulele Lady. I'm always impressed by Ringo's deft work on When I'm 64, unhurried and spot on.

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I'm brand new here. Picked this song to comment on because I just turned 64 this month. Obviously it has new meaning.

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Welcome to the forum @Bikerman69 ! Hope you have a good time here at the forum to end all forums! Why don't you do what I did earlier today and head over to this page and tell us a bit about yourself!

Happy Birthday by the way!

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Bikerman69 said
I'm brand new here. Picked this song to comment on because I just turned 64 this month. Obviously it has new meaning.  

Does she still need you? Does she still feed you, @Bikerman69?

Have you heard Paul's solo song "Biker Like an Icon"?

Happy Birthday and welcome to Forumpool.

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A nice essay about this song. http://www.afr.com/lifestyle/w.....203-gu53vf

Here's a little bit of the article:

George Martin (the band's legendary producer) called When I'm Sixty-Four the album's "jokey song", a classic counterpoint to George Harrison 's sombre, spiritual and sitar-influenced Within You Without You which started Side Two. Yet Paul McCartney 's jaunty, music hall melody now causes more angst and introspection than any of the other more exulted tracks on the album.

Why? Because Baby Boomers regard it with special dread.

If you had the misfortune to be born in the 1950s, celebrating your 64th has become far more gut-wrenching than your 60th ever was. Or your 65th could ever possibly be. As a rite of passage, it's simply the pits. Search the web and you'll find entreaties from both sexes complaining about the pressure they felt. Some post photos of themselves looking hot. Subtext? "Be honest – does my backside look 64 to you?"

And let's remember this: 50 years ago, 64 was definitely old. In the year McCartney was born (1942) average life expectancy for a British male was 63. By 2030 (according to Imperial College London research) it will be 86 years (88 for British women).

No wonder 84 is being called "the new 64". Perhaps McCartney should update the title?

Still, few who grew up with the Beatles providing the soundtrack of their youth can reach this age without humming the tune and pausing for self-reflection. Am I who I expected to be at 64? Is the person lying next to me who I expected to be with at 64? How does my own complicated life compare to the sublime domesticity envisaged by McCartney's youthful protagonist proposing to the girl he wants to spend a life with: "And if you say the word/I could stay with you"?

Much more at the link. Check out the feminist take on the song.

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The AFR is known for interesting journalism at times, unfortunately the Boomers it describes are pretty much the reason why Millennials here can't afford homes and are either still with parents or renting for life. (I feel sorry for Paul Simon though). Typical of Boomers to decide the song is all about them and fret they don't match up to whatever they're imagining about it.

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You know you're old when you refer to your ass as your "backside."

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Completely and utterly off topic, but @Pablo Ramon I laugh every time I see your profile picture. Caveman is quite underrated in my opinion.

 

As for When I'm Sixty-Four ... I always enjoy it when Paul sings "Grandchildren on your knee" in a Scottish accent. I try to replicate every time!

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You know you're old when you refer to your ass as your "backside."  

Yet, you would be younger than those who refer to it as their posterior. a-hard-days-night-george-4

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Completely and utterly off topic, but @Pablo Ramon I laugh every time I see your profile picture. Caveman is quite underrated in my opinion.

 

As for When I'm Sixty-Four ... I always enjoy it when Paul sings "Grandchildren on your knee" in a Scottish accent. I try to replicate every time!  

Well, I have fond memories of Caveman. When I was a teenager and cable TV first came to our area my dad, uncharacteristically, signed up for a package that included HBO and Cinemax. One of those channels happened to have Caveman in its regular rotation at that time and I must have watched it a half a dozen times. I think it was quite entertaining, or at least something about it appealed to a teenage boy...Barbara Bach in a loincloth... 

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So my parents and I were having an argument over the line

'Grandchildren on your knee, Vera, Chuck and Dave'. All the lyric sheets say 'Chuck', I hear at 'Chuck', but my mum thinks it's 'Jock', because he starts singing with slight Scottish accent and Jock is a Scottish name...

I know the lyric sheet says Chuck, but do you think it is likely he started with Jock before someone recommended Chuck, or my mum is reading into it too much?

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 'Chuck' is short for Charles , as in Chuck Berry.....Friendly nickname a grand parent in Paul's time might use....Not so much nowadays. Paul just being colloquial and chirpy ...........Two vowels in Vera two in Chuck and Dave.......they fit......Doubt any more to it than that. Jock would have all sorts of non Liverpool connotations. 

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I would check out the Mona Lisa Twins' version

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